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Old July 10th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #1
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I want the quickest and most economic way to about 650 HP from a bone stock 2006 GT- any advice for a complete newb? I don't mind working my way there. CME has a 347/450hp engine for around $5,000 that I would be willing to consider. Generally how expensive is a swap- and all the little goodies that go with it?

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351 with a blower? . .. .
 
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Well first off 650 horsepower is not as easy to get as it may seem and its not going to be very economic,if it was me id mod the crap out of that 4.6 and see what it brings,it should not be dissapointing at all if you do it right.
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shouldnt this be in the modular section?

put a blower on it
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alright listen there is a 06 gt here in oklahoma that ive raced ....4:10 gears , novi 2000 blower running 15 pounds.. coil packs.. bigger injectors not sure what size...lt headers and borla dumps...it made 595 to the wheels and screams oh and a shifter you will be satisfied
 
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Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?
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slap on a twin turbo on that sucker, do the supporting mods for it, and call it the day.
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Re: Horsepower


Originally Posted by blackthund3r
I want the quickest and most economic way to about 650 HP from a bone stock 2006 GT- any advice for a complete newb? I don't mind working my way there. CME has a 347/450hp engine for around $5,000 that I would be willing to consider. Generally how expensive is a swap- and all the little goodies that go with it?

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a 347 is a pushrod motor, not a modular like in your car, put a blower on it. To make 650 is gonna take a bunch of money, more than you know
 
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347 does not = 600 hp. The block will split unless it is an aftermarket block like a Boss or Dart. You 4.6 block will take 600 hp, but you will need forged internals to go over 10# of boost safely. Thats where I would start if I were working my way to 600+ hp with a mod motor. Prep your motor and your suspension, then figure out which blower you want to go with. It will more than likely come complete with fuel system upgrades. A tune made for your car will get you further than a tune included with the kit. At any rate you're talking 10 thousand minimum just for the hp not including the suspension.
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you definatly want to stick with your mod motor
 
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Originally Posted by radster87
Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?
18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.
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Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY
Originally Posted by radster87
Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?
18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.
I currently run 17psi. on a SVO 2.3 in my ranger. I have had no trouble with out of my block. but i do run forged internals.
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Originally Posted by radster87
Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY
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Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?
18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.
I currently run 17psi. on a SVO 2.3 in my ranger. I have had no trouble with out of my block. but i do run forged internals.
Yeah I am sure you do but the 17 lbs of boost prob puts you at 300 hp or less. That is ok for a 2.3. Once you start to exceed 300hp on a 2.3 the block starts to get pissed off. Running 18lbs of boost to a stock V8 Mustang will put him in a Hp range that will destroy the block and or the internals. Apples to oranges..
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Originally Posted by Stangzilla
Originally Posted by radster87
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Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?
18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.
I currently run 17psi. on a SVO 2.3 in my ranger. I have had no trouble with out of my block. but i do run forged internals.
Yeah I am sure you do but the 17 lbs of boost prob puts you at 300 hp or less. That is ok for a 2.3. Once you start to exceed 300hp on a 2.3 the block starts to get pissed off. Running 18lbs of boost to a stock V8 Mustang will put him in a Hp range that will destroy the block and or the internals. Apples to oranges..

You do have a point. I guess that i didn't consider that. And you were close but the horsepower, 301HP. good estimate
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do a turbo, you'll get more of a gain for less
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Originally Posted by TurboLX
do a turbo, you'll get more of a gain for less

+2828627737628827 on that... Plus its easier to sell it to the old lady. Just tell her that you are goin to the store to by 2 hairdryers and she wont ask another question until the credit card bill arrives at the end of the month. Then hopefully your car will be done cuz you are gonna need all the HP you can get to out run her. Cuz a woman scorned can be a terrible thing...
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forge it plus HP or Hellion turbo kit
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