Horsepower

blackthund3r · July 10th, 2007, 06:00 PM

I want the quickest and most economic way to about 650 HP from a bone stock 2006 GT- any advice for a complete newb? I don't mind working my way there. CME has a 347/450hp engine for around $5,000 that I would be willing to consider. Generally how expensive is a swap- and all the little goodies that go with it?

Thanks

mikebert · July 10th, 2007, 08:24 PM

351 with a blower? . .. .

Iownastang · July 10th, 2007, 08:44 PM

Well first off 650 horsepower is not as easy to get as it may seem and its not going to be very economic,if it was me id mod the crap out of that 4.6 and see what it brings,it should not be dissapointing at all if you do it right.

weems · July 10th, 2007, 08:56 PM

shouldnt this be in the modular section?

put a blower on it

89LX347 · July 10th, 2007, 10:06 PM

alright listen there is a 06 gt here in oklahoma that ive raced ....4:10 gears , novi 2000 blower running 15 pounds.. coil packs.. bigger injectors not sure what size...lt headers and borla dumps...it made 595 to the wheels and screams oh and a shifter you will be satisfied

radster87 · July 10th, 2007, 10:13 PM

Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?

stang94 · July 10th, 2007, 10:14 PM

slap on a twin turbo on that sucker, do the supporting mods for it, and call it the day.

woody1 · July 10th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by blackthund3r

I want the quickest and most economic way to about 650 HP from a bone stock 2006 GT- any advice for a complete newb? I don't mind working my way there. CME has a 347/450hp engine for around $5,000 that I would be willing to consider. Generally how expensive is a swap- and all the little goodies that go with it?

Thanks

a 347 is a pushrod motor, not a modular like in your car, put a blower on it. To make 650 is gonna take a bunch of money, more than you know

neverfastenough1 · July 11th, 2007, 01:13 AM

347 does not = 600 hp. The block will split unless it is an aftermarket block like a Boss or Dart. You 4.6 block will take 600 hp, but you will need forged internals to go over 10# of boost safely. Thats where I would start if I were working my way to 600+ hp with a mod motor. Prep your motor and your suspension, then figure out which blower you want to go with. It will more than likely come complete with fuel system upgrades. A tune made for your car will get you further than a tune included with the kit. At any rate you're talking 10 thousand minimum just for the hp not including the suspension.

89LX347 · July 11th, 2007, 12:00 PM

you definatly want to stick with your mod motor

JBIGBOOTSY · July 11th, 2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by radster87

Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?

18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.

89LX347 · July 12th, 2007, 03:08 PM

get the new MM&FF magazine it has all you need to know and 3 options to do to your car

radster87 · July 12th, 2007, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

Originally Posted by radster87

Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?

18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.

I currently run 17psi. on a SVO 2.3 in my ranger. I have had no trouble with out of my block. but i do run forged internals.

Stangzilla · July 12th, 2007, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by radster87

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

Originally Posted by radster87

Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?

18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.

I currently run 17psi. on a SVO 2.3 in my ranger. I have had no trouble with out of my block. but i do run forged internals.

Yeah I am sure you do but the 17 lbs of boost prob puts you at 300 hp or less. That is ok for a 2.3. Once you start to exceed 300hp on a 2.3 the block starts to get pissed off. Running 18lbs of boost to a stock V8 Mustang will put him in a Hp range that will destroy the block and or the internals. Apples to oranges..

radster87 · July 15th, 2007, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Originally Posted by radster87

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

Originally Posted by radster87

Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang?

18# will destroy any production block, or internals, unless a aftermarket block and internals is included in "appropriate little odds and ends". Usually with a maf car you use a bypass valve, instead of venting the xtra boost to the atmosphere. That way your engine dosen't run crazy rich at part throttle.

I currently run 17psi. on a SVO 2.3 in my ranger. I have had no trouble with out of my block. but i do run forged internals.

Yeah I am sure you do but the 17 lbs of boost prob puts you at 300 hp or less. That is ok for a 2.3. Once you start to exceed 300hp on a 2.3 the block starts to get pissed off. Running 18lbs of boost to a stock V8 Mustang will put him in a Hp range that will destroy the block and or the internals. Apples to oranges..

You do have a point. I guess that i didn't consider that. And you were close but the horsepower, 301HP. good estimate

TurboLX · July 15th, 2007, 01:28 PM

do a turbo, you'll get more of a gain for less

Stangzilla · July 15th, 2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by TurboLX

do a turbo, you'll get more of a gain for less

+2828627737628827 on that... Plus its easier to sell it to the old lady. Just tell her that you are goin to the store to by 2 hairdryers and she wont ask another question until the credit card bill arrives at the end of the month. Then hopefully your car will be done cuz you are gonna need all the HP you can get to out run her. Cuz a woman scorned can be a terrible thing...

00GT · July 26th, 2007, 02:15 AM

forge it plus HP or Hellion turbo kit

July 10th, 2007, 06:00 PM	#1
blackthund3r Look Ma! My First Post! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Your Worst Nightmare Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Horsepower I want the quickest and most economic way to about 650 HP from a bone stock 2006 GT- any advice for a complete newb? I don't mind working my way there. CME has a 347/450hp engine for around $5,000 that I would be willing to consider. Generally how expensive is a swap- and all the little goodies that go with it? Thanks __________________ There are no truly fair fights. Nothing worth fighting should be fought fairly.

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Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well first off 650 horsepower is not as easy to get as it may seem and its not going to be very economic,if it was me id mod the crap out of that 4.6 and see what it brings,it should not be dissapointing at all if you do it right. __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

July 10th, 2007, 10:06 PM	#5
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	alright listen there is a 06 gt here in oklahoma that ive raced ....4:10 gears , novi 2000 blower running 15 pounds.. coil packs.. bigger injectors not sure what size...lt headers and borla dumps...it made 595 to the wheels and screams oh and a shifter you will be satisfied __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

July 10th, 2007, 10:13 PM	#6
radster87 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Livingston, TN Posts: 158 iTrader: 0 reviews	Myself, I would go with twin turbohargers, about 18lbs. of boost, and all the appropriate litlle odds an ends, such as injctors, blow off valve, and such. couldn't you imagine the look of some rice drivin' punk when he heard the sound of a good blowoff coming from a stang? __________________ with this much horsepower it is hard to act maturely.

July 10th, 2007, 10:14 PM	#7
stang94 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jamaica, NY Posts: 1,071 iTrader: 1 reviews	slap on a twin turbo on that sucker, do the supporting mods for it, and call it the day. __________________ Giving Away For FREE PM ME. FREE 351 Block, 90,xxx miles (Non roller block) FREE 94-98 GT Hood (red)

July 10th, 2007, 08:24 PM	#2
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	351 with a blower? . .. .

July 10th, 2007, 08:56 PM	#4
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,176 iTrader: 3 reviews	shouldnt this be in the modular section? put a blower on it

July 11th, 2007, 01:13 AM	#9
neverfastenough1 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,789 iTrader: 3 reviews	347 does not = 600 hp. The block will split unless it is an aftermarket block like a Boss or Dart. You 4.6 block will take 600 hp, but you will need forged internals to go over 10# of boost safely. Thats where I would start if I were working my way to 600+ hp with a mod motor. Prep your motor and your suspension, then figure out which blower you want to go with. It will more than likely come complete with fuel system upgrades. A tune made for your car will get you further than a tune included with the kit. At any rate you're talking 10 thousand minimum just for the hp not including the suspension. __________________

July 11th, 2007, 12:00 PM	#10
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	you definatly want to stick with your mod motor __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

July 12th, 2007, 03:08 PM	#12
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	get the new MM&FF magazine it has all you need to know and 3 options to do to your car __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

July 15th, 2007, 01:28 PM	#16
TurboLX I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 Mustang LX Turbo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY Posts: 8,778 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	do a turbo, you'll get more of a gain for less __________________ 1988 LX Coupe 2.5L, GT35R, 44mm WG, 32psi, C16.

July 26th, 2007, 02:15 AM	#18
00GT Regular 2000 GT slow Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: so cal Posts: 183 iTrader: 0 reviews	forge it plus HP or Hellion turbo kit __________________ Hourofpain wrote: girls always think its cute when we try to do stuff that we cant do good idea.. nba.. next time you have a date, take her to a garage and let her watch you work on a car

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