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Old July 18th, 2007, 09:27 PM   #1
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Have a 1995 GT 5.0 pure stock convertible 51,000 miles on it.

Interested in changing fuel-inj to 4V carb setup, new heads, headers, exhaust, subframes, maybe go 347 stroker.

love the car, engine performance sucks compared to 351 CI power from 1970. Definitely runs out of go at higher RPM.

Miss the secondarys opening up...sound and kick in pants feel.

concerned about conputer and controls.

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Ive never done it but there is a few lenghthy threads on here from people who have just use the search to look for it
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Re: OLD SCHOOL CONVERSION


Originally Posted by lc
Have a 1995 GT 5.0 pure stock convertible 51,000 miles on it.

Interested in changing fuel-inj to 4V carb setup, new heads, headers, exhaust, subframes, maybe go 347 stroker.

love the car, engine performance sucks compared to 351 CI power from 1970. Definitely runs out of go at higher RPM.

Miss the secondarys opening up...sound and kick in pants feel.

concerned about conputer and controls.

Anyone done this?
The 347 part sounds good but as far as the carb goes.. Why.. Sounds like you want to take a few steps back to me.. I say leave it injected..
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Re: OLD SCHOOL CONVERSION


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Have a 1995 GT 5.0 pure stock convertible 51,000 miles on it.

Interested in changing fuel-inj to 4V carb setup, new heads, headers, exhaust, subframes, maybe go 347 stroker.

love the car, engine performance sucks compared to 351 CI power from 1970. Definitely runs out of go at higher RPM.

Miss the secondarys opening up...sound and kick in pants feel.

concerned about conputer and controls.

Anyone done this?
The 347 part sounds good but as far as the carb goes.. Why.. Sounds like you want to take a few steps back to me.. I say leave it injected..
you can go just as fast if not faster carbed for cheaper..... Its an easy swap.
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Is this your everyday street car if so leave it injected
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its not about how far u can go its about what is better. anyway i have friend that has a 1970 nova that has a twin 74mm turbo Merlin block 562cid fuel injected160lb/hr injectors that puts down over 1000hp. How much farther do u want to go? I still say leave it injected and I always will no matter what...
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Re: OLD SCHOOL CONVERSION


Originally Posted by C MY 4D
Originally Posted by Stangzilla
Originally Posted by lc
Have a 1995 GT 5.0 pure stock convertible 51,000 miles on it.

Interested in changing fuel-inj to 4V carb setup, new heads, headers, exhaust, subframes, maybe go 347 stroker.

love the car, engine performance sucks compared to 351 CI power from 1970. Definitely runs out of go at higher RPM.

Miss the secondarys opening up...sound and kick in pants feel.

concerned about conputer and controls.

Anyone done this?
The 347 part sounds good but as far as the carb goes.. Why.. Sounds like you want to take a few steps back to me.. I say leave it injected..
you can go just as fast if not faster carbed for cheaper..... Its an easy swap.
If its already efi, it would be cheaper to stay efi and have better fuel mileage to boot. A carb will not automatically change your fuel needs due to weather, altitude or temperature. Sure a efi can be a pain in the neck sometimes, but so can a carb.
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Re: OLD SCHOOL CONVERSION


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Have a 1995 GT 5.0 pure stock convertible 51,000 miles on it.

Interested in changing fuel-inj to 4V carb setup, new heads, headers, exhaust, subframes, maybe go 347 stroker.

love the car, engine performance sucks compared to 351 CI power from 1970. Definitely runs out of go at higher RPM.

Miss the secondarys opening up...sound and kick in pants feel.

concerned about conputer and controls.

Anyone done this?
The 347 part sounds good but as far as the carb goes.. Why.. Sounds like you want to take a few steps back to me.. I say leave it injected..
you can go just as fast if not faster carbed for cheaper..... Its an easy swap.
If its already efi, it would be cheaper to stay efi and have better fuel mileage to boot. A carb will not automatically change your fuel needs due to weather, altitude or temperature. Sure a efi can be a pain in the neck sometimes, but so can a carb.
how would it be cheaper? you can buy a whole carb setup for the price of a nice upper and lower.
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Re: OLD SCHOOL CONVERSION


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Have a 1995 GT 5.0 pure stock convertible 51,000 miles on it.

Interested in changing fuel-inj to 4V carb setup, new heads, headers, exhaust, subframes, maybe go 347 stroker.

love the car, engine performance sucks compared to 351 CI power from 1970. Definitely runs out of go at higher RPM.

Miss the secondarys opening up...sound and kick in pants feel.

concerned about conputer and controls.

Anyone done this?
Well we can go back and forth and beat this to fuckin death cuz its been done more than once on this forum. Bottom line is he is prob gonna do what he wants but me I cant think of one good reason to switch. Can you? Ok you say cheaper but the difference will be made up and surpassed sooner or later buy the fuel you save. Throttle response reliability. What more do you want.. Why step backward??

The 347 part sounds good but as far as the carb goes.. Why.. Sounds like you want to take a few steps back to me.. I say leave it injected..
you can go just as fast if not faster carbed for cheaper..... Its an easy swap.
If its already efi, it would be cheaper to stay efi and have better fuel mileage to boot. A carb will not automatically change your fuel needs due to weather, altitude or temperature. Sure a efi can be a pain in the neck sometimes, but so can a carb.
how would it be cheaper? you can buy a whole carb setup for the price of a nice upper and lower.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 08:57 PM   #10
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Hey, Im not seeking approval about why...its just me and what i want to do. This is purely a hobby car, never sees cold or even rain. I haven't even started it yet this year.

I seeking someone knowledgeable about how and the best stuff to use.

Can't be the first to do this.

I'am new to this site and thought "MODDED MUSTANGS" people might be helpful.

Anybody out there?
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dont be snotty and you will get help but did you use the search function and see where that got you?
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Been searching for awhile, seems the more I look, the more i get confused. Hoping for someone that has experience with the computer. Understand it is uniqure to the 94 and 95 cars and is difficult to make changes without big issues. It seems to work against FI improvements.
Also has a feature to detune the engine to reduce damage to a weak 5-speed that is also unique to the 94 / 95 cars.

Ford used the 5.0 as a carry-over until the MOD motor went in. The car wasn't meant to have the 5.0 and was a last minute change leading to these problems.

That is my confusion separating fact from fiction. After market products often take exception to these years.

Love the car, want strong carb power.
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then what you need to do is throw out the 5.0 and trans, build a nice and healthy 351w and put in a c6 and have fun with it that way you can get rid of most of the cumputer controlled parts that you dont want anyway. then 4-link a 9" into the back and give it hell.
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Originally Posted by lc
Been searching for awhile, seems the more I look, the more i get confused. Hoping for someone that has experience with the computer. Understand it is uniqure to the 94 and 95 cars and is difficult to make changes without big issues. It seems to work against FI improvements.
Also has a feature to detune the engine to reduce damage to a weak 5-speed that is also unique to the 94 / 95 cars.

Ford used the 5.0 as a carry-over until the MOD motor went in. The car wasn't meant to have the 5.0 and was a last minute change leading to these problems.

That is my confusion separating fact from fiction. After market products often take exception to these years.

Love the car, want strong carb power.
What do you want to know? I just did it to my 88 and a few others in the past.
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Yes, what do you want to do? If you go carbed you won't have to worry about the comp unless you have an automatic. As far as the costs, sure if you go to a junk yard you can find some cheaper prices, but that goes for both set ups. Carb-250-300 (Holley, cheap one), lower intake-250-300 (edelbrock), line kit-25-75 (tube vs braided), ignition-300-550 (whole kit), pump-175 or regulator-85-175. Trick flow intake kit (track heat)- 511-for 347, 660-for 351. Now just tell us which one you want to go with and we will help you, or this is just going to turn into a big arguement over which is better. Its your car, and its your decision.
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Oh, and by the way, welcome to the site. A little insight, if you search the threads on this site, you will find this subject always gets mixed opinions. It usually ends with the thread being cut off. Hopefully we can help you with this without that happening. Sorry but thats what happens on Modded Sites. Everybody has a different opinion, and everybody has different mods.
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Originally Posted by beheivjer
then what you need to do is throw out the 5.0 and trans, build a nice and healthy 351w and put in a c6 and have fun with it that way you can get rid of most of the cumputer controlled parts that you dont want anyway. then 4-link a 9" into the back and give it hell.
a c6 is a piece of shit just had to get that out of the way

let him go carb if he wants to!
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I have both carbed and a c-6 and the power loss from going to a c-6 from a c-4 is noticeable. If this c-6 ever breaks im definately putting a c-4 back in.
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looks like i'm hititng pay-dirt

i really appreciate your opinions, from research i think i will go with AFR heads, trick-flow intake with a holley 650 cfm.

not sure about the headers, or if i need to change the cam.

i have a target of 300+ hp at the wheels.

also, is the stock 5-speed strong enough, there appears to be some roughness in third right now.

are there any sites to detail wiring changes? i did not see any.

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