5.0 vs toyota

cali 5.0 · July 22nd, 2007, 01:29 AM

i work at a toyota dealership and the shop foreman and his little brother think that they can out run me. i've got an 89gt with the listed mods below and they are both stock... the younger one has(and when he told me this i LMFAO) 07 camry with wht is suppose to have a "bad ass" v6 engine in it which is a very nice luxury car, and big brother has one of those 2door tundra's which is pretty nice i must say its one of those tro off road trucks, its an 07 also, say's he's got about 400ftlbs of torque which i dont doubt...
another guy tht works theire tht has the same camry claims to have pulled on a mach1 by about 3cars. mind u tht they say this camry has about 260 hp, (thts less than a 00gt stock.) and tht he has raced a 5.0 and supposedly beat him pretty bad... yeh right..
what do any of u guys think about this

BlueOval · July 22nd, 2007, 01:44 AM

What do I think?

Bullschnitzle.

TENGRAM · July 22nd, 2007, 01:52 AM

make them put their $$ where there mouth is...they sound like idiots

G.T. Rags · July 22nd, 2007, 02:01 AM

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

TENGRAM · July 22nd, 2007, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

3500 pounds is insanely heavy, plus they have narrow powerbands. any idea what they run in the 1/4 mile? i'm betting 16 seconds at best

neverfastenough1 · July 22nd, 2007, 07:39 AM

Actually, the 2000 Gt has 260 hp and the Camry has 268 like Ragtop said. Although, the Camry SE has a 7 sec 0-60 time, and the LE is even slower. They have like the worst ratings for performance I have seen. You got them beat in the 1/8th or 1/4.

92Rideagain · July 22nd, 2007, 09:34 AM

Only one way to truly tell......line em up!! Be safe go to the track

tlr96 · July 22nd, 2007, 11:11 AM

you'd smoke either one of them, throw the

and tell them to put up or shut up.

Black Five 0h · July 22nd, 2007, 11:27 AM

all toyotas are shit except for 07 tundra

TheUNZippee! · July 22nd, 2007, 11:33 AM

Those Tundra's have 381 horsepower, and will run 0-60 times in the high 7 second range. Quick for a truck. The Camry might be fast, but it's a....Camry. Bleh.

JBIGBOOTSY · July 22nd, 2007, 08:54 PM

I don't know about the camry, but there was a new 07 altima at the track running low 14s with the new paper plate on it.

8A_Honda · July 22nd, 2007, 09:57 PM

Personally, they're the only ones with something to brag about if they won. They beat a modded Mustang (even if just slightly) and get to brag to their friends. Now imagine how it'd be if you told us that you beat a "Camry" or a "Tundra". If you tried bragging about that to me I'd just be laughing about it. It's nothing special. Ferrari or something, then that's a different story.

What would you get to gain from this by beating either of them? Not as much as they would. I wouldn't even be wasting my gas TRYING to race them.

Stangzilla · July 22nd, 2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

3500 pounds is insanely heavy, plus they have narrow powerbands. any idea what they run in the 1/4 mile? i'm betting 16 seconds at best

Actually 3500lbs is not "insanly heavy" like you said. My 93 notch weighs 2850 without me in it, but it is stripped and has a K-Member. Dont stock GT's weigh 3500lbs or close to that.. Now 3800lbs and up is heavy but I would not say 3500lbs is heavy..

TENGRAM · July 22nd, 2007, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

3500 pounds is insanely heavy, plus they have narrow powerbands. any idea what they run in the 1/4 mile? i'm betting 16 seconds at best

Actually 3500lbs is not "insanly heavy" like you said. My 93 notch weighs 2850 without me in it, but it is stripped and has a K-Member. Dont stock GT's weigh 3500lbs or close to that.. Now 3800lbs and up is heavy but I would not say 3500lbs is heavy..

vert automatic fox GTs don't even weigh 3500lbs. heavy is a relative term but in the world of high performance cars 3500 is extremely heavy. FYI, a stock fully optioned 5-speed fox GT weighs around 3250...mine weighs considerably less.

TENGRAM · July 22nd, 2007, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

Originally Posted by Stangzilla

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

3500 pounds is insanely heavy, plus they have narrow powerbands. any idea what they run in the 1/4 mile? i'm betting 16 seconds at best

Actually 3500lbs is not "insanly heavy" like you said. My 93 notch weighs 2850 without me in it, but it is stripped and has a K-Member. Dont stock GT's weigh 3500lbs or close to that.. Now 3800lbs and up is heavy but I would not say 3500lbs is heavy..

vert automatic fox GTs don't even weigh 3500lbs. heavy is a relative term but in the world of high performance cars 3500 is extremely heavy. FYI, a stock fully optioned 5-speed fox GT weighs around 3250...mine weighs considerably less.

actually i was abit pessimistic...

"Here are the factory published curb weights (loaded with fuel and fluids but no people or cargo) from the MVMA specs:

LX coupe 5-speed 3010
LX Hatch 5-speed 3069
GT Hatch 5-speed 3144
LX convertible 5-speed 3231
GT convertible 5-speed 3365

LX coupe AOD 3076
LX Hatch AOD 3135
GT Hatch AOD 3210
LX convertible AOD 3297
GT convertible AOD 3431

These are the base weights for each model. Add to them the following options weights accordingly:

A/C 40
power locks 6
power windows 6
AM/FM Cassette 2
Premium Sound 5
Radio Delete -9"

JBIGBOOTSY · July 23rd, 2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

3500 pounds is insanely heavy, plus they have narrow powerbands. any idea what they run in the 1/4 mile? i'm betting 16 seconds at best

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...camry-v-6.html

14.3@99mph

theninja · July 23rd, 2007, 02:04 PM

Best feedback I saw:

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

If you work at a Toyota dealership couldn't you get authorized to test drive one of these BEASTS (sarcasm)? Really though... Know your enemy. Take one out for a cruise and get a feel for it. The new Camry isn't fast by any means, but judging by the responses here I'm willing to bet there are quite a few mustang owners out there that might get their feelings hurt against the camry.

The days of the 100hp economy car are gone. To even see a post "Will my 5.0 Mustang beat this V6 Camry" means Toyota must be doing SOMETHING right.

But then again, quotes like this hold some value as well:

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee!

The Camry might be fast, but it's a....Camry. Bleh.

+1

dr.gonzo! · July 23rd, 2007, 03:11 PM

my heavy ass vert and a slipin trans went 14.9 I found the specs for the camry at 15.05

theninja · July 23rd, 2007, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...camry-v-6.html

14.3@99mph

And the numbers I'm about to rattle off could be a bit off because different sources say different things, and I'm just using the internet as a source but... both of these sets of numbers were taken from www.msn.com (where you got that 15.05 1/4 time for the Camry)

1988 Ford Mustang GT convertible (manual)
4.9L 225 hp V8
Curb Weight: 3329 lbs.

2007 Toyota Camry LE V6 (automatic)
3.5L 268 hp V6
Curb Weight: 3461 lbs.

I understand that the Camry listed is an automatic, but the V6 doesn't get mated to a manual tranny in 07'...

So you're saying that your 88 Mustang with all stock parts and slipping clutch can beat a car with 40 more horses, similar weight, that just rolled off of the factory line? You do have the manual tranny going for you, but that's about it. I'm no Mustang expert, but you had better be a driving mofo to take that camry in the quarter.[/b]

TENGRAM · July 23rd, 2007, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

they've got 268 hp and weigh 3500 hundred lbs.......gears are pretty decent for an economy car....i'd say u'd win but not by much.

3500 pounds is insanely heavy, plus they have narrow powerbands. any idea what they run in the 1/4 mile? i'm betting 16 seconds at best

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...camry-v-6.html

14.3@99mph

July 22nd, 2007, 01:29 AM	#1
cali 5.0 Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: grand prairie tx Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 reviews	5.0 vs toyota i work at a toyota dealership and the shop foreman and his little brother think that they can out run me. i've got an 89gt with the listed mods below and they are both stock... the younger one has(and when he told me this i LMFAO) 07 camry with wht is suppose to have a "bad ass" v6 engine in it which is a very nice luxury car, and big brother has one of those 2door tundra's which is pretty nice i must say its one of those tro off road trucks, its an 07 also, say's he's got about 400ftlbs of torque which i dont doubt... another guy tht works theire tht has the same camry claims to have pulled on a mach1 by about 3cars. mind u tht they say this camry has about 260 hp, (thts less than a 00gt stock.) and tht he has raced a 5.0 and supposedly beat him pretty bad... yeh right.. what do any of u guys think about this __________________ 89 gt 3.73 gears, full exhaust, holley system max2 intake manifold, 70mm throttle body, jet chip

July 22nd, 2007, 01:44 AM	#2
BlueOval Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blythewood, SC Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	What do I think? Bullschnitzle. __________________ 1990 LX Notch, with the heart of a 93 GT vert' (R.I.P.)

July 22nd, 2007, 01:52 AM	#3
TENGRAM Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,027 iTrader: 0 reviews	make them put their $$ where there mouth is...they sound like idiots __________________ 89 GT t5 3.73 www.my5oh.com/

July 22nd, 2007, 07:39 AM	#6
neverfastenough1 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,777 iTrader: 3 reviews	Actually, the 2000 Gt has 260 hp and the Camry has 268 like Ragtop said. Although, the Camry SE has a 7 sec 0-60 time, and the LE is even slower. They have like the worst ratings for performance I have seen. You got them beat in the 1/8th or 1/4. __________________

July 22nd, 2007, 09:34 AM	#7
92Rideagain Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Al Qa'im Iraq Posts: 56 iTrader: 0 reviews	Only one way to truly tell......line em up!! Be safe go to the track __________________ Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "Benjamin Franklin"

July 22nd, 2007, 11:11 AM	#8
tlr96 Hardcore Enthusiast 1996 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 1,796 iTrader: 0 reviews	you'd smoke either one of them, throw the and tell them to put up or shut up. __________________ view my garage for pics and modifications listen to my exhaust video 1 video 2 video 3

July 22nd, 2007, 11:27 AM	#9
Black Five 0h Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Cant wait to find out Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 567 iTrader: 1 reviews	all toyotas are shit except for 07 tundra __________________ 02 Mustang GT "We build it up, run it hard, we know whats breaking and we enjoy it breaking, we dump money into it, we re-build it stronger, run it harder in anticipation of it breaking again. We are sick individuals."

July 22nd, 2007, 11:33 AM	#10
TheUNZippee! Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 61,816 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Those Tundra's have 381 horsepower, and will run 0-60 times in the high 7 second range. Quick for a truck. The Camry might be fast, but it's a....Camry. Bleh. __________________

July 22nd, 2007, 08:54 PM	#11
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't know about the camry, but there was a new 07 altima at the track running low 14s with the new paper plate on it. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

July 22nd, 2007, 09:57 PM	#12
8A_Honda Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 313 iTrader: 0 reviews	Personally, they're the only ones with something to brag about if they won. They beat a modded Mustang (even if just slightly) and get to brag to their friends. Now imagine how it'd be if you told us that you beat a "Camry" or a "Tundra". If you tried bragging about that to me I'd just be laughing about it. It's nothing special. Ferrari or something, then that's a different story. What would you get to gain from this by beating either of them? Not as much as they would. I wouldn't even be wasting my gas TRYING to race them.

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