Building a 89 GT in High School

Darrellx14 · July 19th, 2006, 12:38 PM

Well, since this is my first post i guess i should somewhat introduce myself. i'm a 16 year old kid and i'm going into my Junior year in highschool and right now i drive a 93 explorer, and I work at the local Chevrolet dealership cleaning and detailing the used trade ins. Aside from all that, my brother's neighbor has a '89 mustang GT with an AOD automatic and he is selling for $500 bucks. Body is straight, tranmission is good, but the motor has a broken oil ring on the 5th cylinder so it is a mosquito killer for sure. But i figure for 500 bucks, it is a great platform for what i want. I don't want it mild, but i don't want it wild either. I'm thinking if I just have it bored to a 306 with some Forged flat-tops and keep EVERYTHING else stock right now in the powertrain compartment that it'd be best so I could restore the interior and put some tough suspension under it, and then get it repainted all pretty and slap some Chrome 17" 4 lug cobra's on it. and then just drive it until I have enough saved up to really have that 306 screaming (6 psi supercharger, all GT-40 aluminum heads, intake, and on and on) wow.. feels like i've written a book, but I'm just really excited because all this is coming from my hard work, I'm not letting my dad help because this is MY car, and 10 years from now after i've built the car and had it awhile, i wanna be able to say that i built this when i was 16-17 years old

Any questions or comments are welcome

mdvaldosta · July 19th, 2006, 12:54 PM

First, welcome to MM

Second, wow for $500 it sounds like you're getting an absolute steal. You've obvously thought out a solid plan, and I dig the 17" Cobra R's (my favorite fox wheel). I would suggest though, if you're planning on boost down the road you should consider dished pistons so you could support more boost, and go ahead and do forged rods as well.

Darrellx14 · July 19th, 2006, 01:14 PM

Yeah, i've thought about dished pistons, but since i don't really want to run anymore than 6 psi, i figured if i keep the compression around 9:1 w/out the SC that it'd be fine with it. or am i wrong?

orangeRcode · July 19th, 2006, 01:31 PM

Sounds like a great project. Snatch that Fox up and get to work on it. Keep us updated on your progress. Good luck. It will one of the most trying and rewarding things you have done.

mdvaldosta · July 19th, 2006, 01:59 PM

9:1 would be perfect for either boost or n/a. I guess it depends on the type of piston, and the flat / dished doesn't matter so much as the compression ratio.

Darrellx14 · July 19th, 2006, 02:21 PM

Yeah, the heads i'm going to be using are 64cc's and with the type of flat top i'm getting it's gonna put the compression at either high 8:1 or right at 9:1 compression. I'm really excited i'm getting paid friday afternoon so friday night i'll have 500 bucks and a few hundred in change, so pistons and rods will be coming soon, then the motor and transmission is coming out and the magic will start happenin

j2000_guy · July 19th, 2006, 06:12 PM

i built my jeep when i was 16-18, and its ALL mine, noone can tell you different! better built than bought

mikes93fox · July 20th, 2006, 08:15 AM

Good luck on the project! Most people can't even think about a roller for $500. So you are getting one helluva deal. @16 yrs old you don't have to worry about bills and most of the other things that hamper a project budget at a later age. Build now is the thing to do. I just wish I would have done the same when I was 16. But then again fox bodies were $10,000 to $15,000 when I was your age.

AtlanticBlue99 · July 20th, 2006, 08:18 AM

Sounds like a great project. I am 17 and have a modded 6cyl- I wish I knew as much about cars and modding as you when I was on the market for my first car. Good luck, and you should find the answer to any 5.0 question within the forum here

Darrellx14 · July 23rd, 2006, 11:49 AM

Well, my oldest brother is 25 and has ALWAYS been into cars, so that is why I know what I do about engines. I helped him build his '72 Maverick street car with a carbed 302 and a c4. But I'm really excited about this car... especially since i'm gonna have it owning my bro's maverick

Bossman351 · July 24th, 2006, 09:50 PM

Congrats on the awesome find. You sound like you really know what you want and where youre going with this project. Good luck with your build!!!

Darrellx14 · July 27th, 2006, 12:20 AM

News Update:

Well, there's bad news, and then there's bad news, and possibly good news

first off my mom lost her job recently because she did home health for a little girl who was quadreplegic, and the little girl (age 12) lost her life, her body just could not fight the illness any longer. And now my mom is jobless and very depressed as she had taken care of her since age 6 and actually thought of her as a daughter she had never had. Now aside from the depressing part, my mom has a 2005 Dodge Ram hemi (standard cab, short bed, 20's etc.) and now that she doesn't have a job and is really in no condition to look for one right now, she cannot make her $520 a month payment, and as much as i'd like to build this mustang and have my own car i built... I just cannot bear to see my mom loose her truck after just loosing her best friend. So the $500 i had been saving is going to make her payment, and I will more than likely take over payments on the truck because she is moving back to Wisconsin to 'start over' and live with my aunt and uncle. Now i am not a Mopar person, my blood runs Ford blue, but i think after i've paid the truck down i can resell it and hopefully start building this god danged car! or if i do end up liking the truck.. keep it and make it a monsterour beast.

well, i've noticed i write way to long of posts, but i cannot believe this pressure all of a sudden and gotta vent in some way, so unfortunatly for those who read this... your my vent! haha, so if ya'll have any advice or anything about what i should do, tell me. Being 16 years old this is shitty.

cali 5.0 · July 27th, 2006, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Darrellx14

News Update:

Well, there's bad news, and then there's bad news, and possibly good news

first off my mom lost her job recently because she did home health for a little girl who was quadreplegic, and the little girl (age 12) lost her life, her body just could not fight the illness any longer. And now my mom is jobless and very depressed as she had taken care of her since age 6 and actually thought of her as a daughter she had never had. Now aside from the depressing part, my mom has a 2005 Dodge Ram hemi (standard cab, short bed, 20's etc.) and now that she doesn't have a job and is really in no condition to look for one right now, she cannot make her $520 a month payment, and as much as i'd like to build this mustang and have my own car i built... I just cannot bear to see my mom loose her truck after just loosing her best friend. So the $500 i had been saving is going to make her payment, and I will more than likely take over payments on the truck because she is moving back to Wisconsin to 'start over' and live with my aunt and uncle. Now i am not a Mopar person, my blood runs Ford blue, but i think after i've paid the truck down i can resell it and hopefully start building this god danged car! or if i do end up liking the truck.. keep it and make it a monsterour beast.

well, i've noticed i write way to long of posts, but i cannot believe this pressure all of a sudden and gotta vent in some way, so unfortunatly for those who read this... your my vent! haha, so if ya'll have any advice or anything about what i should do, tell me. Being 16 years old this is shitty.

sorry to hear that...
thats a bad ass truck, i raced one not too long ago from the light and he beat the shit out of me....

Darrellx14 · July 27th, 2006, 11:51 AM

i know its a bad bitch, but i just don't know if i can handle paying for the truck... 21,000 just seems like to much for me.. I only make around 180 bucks a week... so i won't have no extra cash after gas and truck payment. But my mom might have found a small job babysitting to get the money to make her payment before she leaves.. so i hope that happens

OTreborO · July 27th, 2006, 12:58 PM

I know I would not want to be strapped with a $500 truck payment at 41 much less at your age. Let the truck go....................

I had to sell a 2004 Motorcycle that I loved a few months ago. Yes, I really miss it, but being broke sucks ass, no one should live week to week just to have a toy. trust me on this one

Darrellx14 · July 27th, 2006, 05:39 PM

yeah, that's what i'm figuring. So unless she gets a job before leaving, the big blue dodge is gonna be repo'ed

artisan00 · July 28th, 2006, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Darrellx14

yeah, that's what i'm figuring. So unless she gets a job before leaving, the big blue dodge is gonna be repo'ed

why cant you sell it and use what you get to pay as much of the remaining payments as possible?

July 19th, 2006, 12:38 PM	#1
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	Building a 89 GT in High School Well, since this is my first post i guess i should somewhat introduce myself. i'm a 16 year old kid and i'm going into my Junior year in highschool and right now i drive a 93 explorer, and I work at the local Chevrolet dealership cleaning and detailing the used trade ins. Aside from all that, my brother's neighbor has a '89 mustang GT with an AOD automatic and he is selling for $500 bucks. Body is straight, tranmission is good, but the motor has a broken oil ring on the 5th cylinder so it is a mosquito killer for sure. But i figure for 500 bucks, it is a great platform for what i want. I don't want it mild, but i don't want it wild either. I'm thinking if I just have it bored to a 306 with some Forged flat-tops and keep EVERYTHING else stock right now in the powertrain compartment that it'd be best so I could restore the interior and put some tough suspension under it, and then get it repainted all pretty and slap some Chrome 17" 4 lug cobra's on it. and then just drive it until I have enough saved up to really have that 306 screaming (6 psi supercharger, all GT-40 aluminum heads, intake, and on and on) wow.. feels like i've written a book, but I'm just really excited because all this is coming from my hard work, I'm not letting my dad help because this is MY car, and 10 years from now after i've built the car and had it awhile, i wanna be able to say that i built this when i was 16-17 years old Any questions or comments are welcome

July 19th, 2006, 01:14 PM	#3
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	Yeah, i've thought about dished pistons, but since i don't really want to run anymore than 6 psi, i figured if i keep the compression around 9:1 w/out the SC that it'd be fine with it. or am i wrong? __________________ '87 Mustang 5.0 T5 Coupe New motor I/P: stock shortblock Edelbrock heads Typhoon Intake 70mm TB 80mm MAF 24lbers 1.7 rr B303 cam. Shooting for 300rwhp?

July 19th, 2006, 01:31 PM	#4
orangeRcode Hardcore Enthusiast 12.37@110.89 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mustang/Yukon, OK Posts: 1,781	Sounds like a great project. Snatch that Fox up and get to work on it. Keep us updated on your progress. Good luck. It will one of the most trying and rewarding things you have done. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/image-apic687.jpg

July 19th, 2006, 02:21 PM	#6
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	Yeah, the heads i'm going to be using are 64cc's and with the type of flat top i'm getting it's gonna put the compression at either high 8:1 or right at 9:1 compression. I'm really excited i'm getting paid friday afternoon so friday night i'll have 500 bucks and a few hundred in change, so pistons and rods will be coming soon, then the motor and transmission is coming out and the magic will start happenin __________________ '87 Mustang 5.0 T5 Coupe New motor I/P: stock shortblock Edelbrock heads Typhoon Intake 70mm TB 80mm MAF 24lbers 1.7 rr B303 cam. Shooting for 300rwhp?

July 19th, 2006, 06:12 PM	#7
j2000_guy Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 31	i built my jeep when i was 16-18, and its ALL mine, noone can tell you different! better built than bought __________________ 94 cobra, headers, CAI, h-pipes, flowy 40 series, short throw, underdrive pulleys, 3.73's

July 19th, 2006, 12:54 PM	#2
mdvaldosta Maintenance Man 2002 Mustang GT 11.47@120.58 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 3,945	First, welcome to MM Second, wow for $500 it sounds like you're getting an absolute steal. You've obvously thought out a solid plan, and I dig the 17" Cobra R's (my favorite fox wheel). I would suggest though, if you're planning on boost down the road you should consider dished pistons so you could support more boost, and go ahead and do forged rods as well.

July 19th, 2006, 01:59 PM	#5
mdvaldosta Maintenance Man 2002 Mustang GT 11.47@120.58 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 3,945	9:1 would be perfect for either boost or n/a. I guess it depends on the type of piston, and the flat / dished doesn't matter so much as the compression ratio.

July 20th, 2006, 08:15 AM	#8
mikes93fox Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dumas, Tx Posts: 17	Good luck on the project! Most people can't even think about a roller for $500. So you are getting one helluva deal. @16 yrs old you don't have to worry about bills and most of the other things that hamper a project budget at a later age. Build now is the thing to do. I just wish I would have done the same when I was 16. But then again fox bodies were $10,000 to $15,000 when I was your age. __________________ 93 vert - stock bottom end, AFR 165's, Crane 1.7 RR, F-cam, Ported Cobra upper and lower, BBK 65 mm TB, Pro-M 76mm MAF, FRPP 24lbs inj, Novi 1000, BulletProof AOD, Alum. rad, MSD 6a, Blaster 2 coil, FRPP 9mm wires, Holley 255 FP, 3:73, and Cobra R's

July 20th, 2006, 08:18 AM	#9
AtlanticBlue99 Modded Autos Site Mod 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Evans, GA/Athens, GA Posts: 7,249	Sounds like a great project. I am 17 and have a modded 6cyl- I wish I knew as much about cars and modding as you when I was on the market for my first car. Good luck, and you should find the answer to any 5.0 question within the forum here __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

July 23rd, 2006, 11:49 AM	#10
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	Well, my oldest brother is 25 and has ALWAYS been into cars, so that is why I know what I do about engines. I helped him build his '72 Maverick street car with a carbed 302 and a c4. But I'm really excited about this car... especially since i'm gonna have it owning my bro's maverick __________________ '87 Mustang 5.0 T5 Coupe New motor I/P: stock shortblock Edelbrock heads Typhoon Intake 70mm TB 80mm MAF 24lbers 1.7 rr B303 cam. Shooting for 300rwhp?

July 24th, 2006, 09:50 PM	#11
Bossman351 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: On the trailer.......broke. Posts: 1,261	Congrats on the awesome find. You sound like you really know what you want and where youre going with this project. Good luck with your build!!! __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ic137.html.jpg

July 27th, 2006, 12:20 AM	#12
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	News Update: Well, there's bad news, and then there's bad news, and possibly good news first off my mom lost her job recently because she did home health for a little girl who was quadreplegic, and the little girl (age 12) lost her life, her body just could not fight the illness any longer. And now my mom is jobless and very depressed as she had taken care of her since age 6 and actually thought of her as a daughter she had never had. Now aside from the depressing part, my mom has a 2005 Dodge Ram hemi (standard cab, short bed, 20's etc.) and now that she doesn't have a job and is really in no condition to look for one right now, she cannot make her $520 a month payment, and as much as i'd like to build this mustang and have my own car i built... I just cannot bear to see my mom loose her truck after just loosing her best friend. So the $500 i had been saving is going to make her payment, and I will more than likely take over payments on the truck because she is moving back to Wisconsin to 'start over' and live with my aunt and uncle. Now i am not a Mopar person, my blood runs Ford blue, but i think after i've paid the truck down i can resell it and hopefully start building this god danged car! or if i do end up liking the truck.. keep it and make it a monsterour beast. well, i've noticed i write way to long of posts, but i cannot believe this pressure all of a sudden and gotta vent in some way, so unfortunatly for those who read this... your my vent! haha, so if ya'll have any advice or anything about what i should do, tell me. Being 16 years old this is shitty. __________________ '87 Mustang 5.0 T5 Coupe New motor I/P: stock shortblock Edelbrock heads Typhoon Intake 70mm TB 80mm MAF 24lbers 1.7 rr B303 cam. Shooting for 300rwhp?

July 27th, 2006, 11:51 AM	#14
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	i know its a bad bitch, but i just don't know if i can handle paying for the truck... 21,000 just seems like to much for me.. I only make around 180 bucks a week... so i won't have no extra cash after gas and truck payment. But my mom might have found a small job babysitting to get the money to make her payment before she leaves.. so i hope that happens __________________ '87 Mustang 5.0 T5 Coupe New motor I/P: stock shortblock Edelbrock heads Typhoon Intake 70mm TB 80mm MAF 24lbers 1.7 rr B303 cam. Shooting for 300rwhp?

July 27th, 2006, 12:58 PM	#15
OTreborO Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 639	To Much money I know I would not want to be strapped with a $500 truck payment at 41 much less at your age. Let the truck go.................... I had to sell a 2004 Motorcycle that I loved a few months ago. Yes, I really miss it, but being broke sucks ass, no one should live week to week just to have a toy. trust me on this one __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" Rev. Jim Jones

July 27th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#16
Darrellx14 Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 82	yeah, that's what i'm figuring. So unless she gets a job before leaving, the big blue dodge is gonna be repo'ed __________________ '87 Mustang 5.0 T5 Coupe New motor I/P: stock shortblock Edelbrock heads Typhoon Intake 70mm TB 80mm MAF 24lbers 1.7 rr B303 cam. Shooting for 300rwhp?

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Building a 89 GT in High School

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