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EFI vs. Carb
Ive got a 88 lx coupe. It was a factory 4 cylinder car, the i guy i bought it from swaped in a 302 but converted it to carb. I have heard good and bad things about carb but i considering converting it back to EFI. I am looking at getting a supercharger thats why i want to switch it. What all is going to be needed to convert it back. Intake, Injectors, Harness, Computer. Since it was a factory 4 cylinder car will the entire harness need to be changed or can i just get a hold of an EFI harness and plug it in.
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Get a complete harness and computer from a junk yard. Swapping back to EFI is not a big deal at all. You will obviously need all of the sensors as well.
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dont u need dif fuel lines too?
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Why not just use a blow through carb?
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As far as i know the stock fuel lines are used, i am not sure if there different in a 4 cylinder car the fuel line is on the passenger side towards the front its looks like theres two but only one is used running through a regulator up to my carb. Are a 302 fuel lines in a different location?
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just run carb, its way easier to work on, you can tweek little things on the carb to get performance rather than buying like 10 things to do that 1 thing for fuel injected..a nice carb, intake, heads, cam and exhuast..the thing will tear..
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Re: EFI vs. Carb
you know you can run a super charger on a carbed motor right..and there more of a bolt on install..with FI motor you have to change injectors, FPR, fuel pump, MAF, computer and everything else.jpjp.but is way easier for carbed..
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Yea but don't you have to get a special carb to run a supercharger. And i heard that it is hard to tune.
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i thought all you did was jet it?
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Air bleeds, power valves, jets, float height.....
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but for the most part its not really "tuning" as in EFI
more like.. adjusting, like suspension to get the best ride quality
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tune /tun, tyun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[toon, tyoon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, tuned, tun·ing.
–noun to adjust (a motor, mechanism, or the like) for proper functioning.
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Does anyone around have a good daily driven carb setup. I really want something reliable that i don't have to fight to crank everytime i drive it. I have a eldelbrock carb now if i keep it carb i would like to get a holley. What are some good choices? As far as supercharging it i am in no hurry my car makes good power with the set up i have it just needs to be cleaned up a bit, and i hate having to pop the hood and flip the choke to crank it if it hasnt been run in a while.
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my gramps got a carb'd 302 in his crown vic and it never has any problems (until winter time)
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My carbed 88 has better driveability than my EFI 89. They both run 11s 1/4 miles. The carbed car starts right up, idles smoothly and never surges. My EFI car surges under load below 1500 rpms and idle surges on start up everytime for about 10 seconds. The EFI car gets about 5 mpg more in town, but the engine is also 50 cubes smaller.
I don't drive either in the winter, but if I had a death wish and liked to drive my fox mustang in the snow, I'd opt for EFI or an electronic choked carb. As for tuning a carb, people usually start with the main jets and then "F" the carb up so bad and then can't figure out why they can't tune it in. Fine tuning should be done with the air bleeds like Darrell said, unfortunately 4150 holley carbs don't come with serviceable air bleeds. The main jets are only for large changes and affect the A/F throughout te RPM range at WOT. If you buy a decent carb that is set up for your application the main jets should already be correct or at least very close. For a blow through carb, you are looking at a totally different animal and your best bet is to buy one from a reputable builder/ tuner. There is a whole forum section of turbomustangs.com about blow-through carbs. |
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What would be a good carb for a stock 302. I might get a pair of gt 40 heads or some other mild flowing heads. Ive got a AED throttle cable bracket but it doesnt fit my eldelbrock carb very well i kinda had to make it work. Its made for a holley. I am new to carburators would a 650 cfm holley be a good choice?
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