Advancing timing=how much power?

8A_Honda · September 7th, 2007, 01:16 AM

Getting the car ready for the track next Sunday. Finally got my sputtering problem fixed with the new distributor but no clue what the timing is at. Just made some marks to get it close when installing the new one. So today I filled up with 93 octane and gonna reset the timing tomorrow at work. Shooting for about 14 degrees I suppose.

Anyway, I'm just wondering how much of a difference this will make. Is there any rule of thumb as to how much power it'll add? Kinda like taking away reciprocating weight translates into "x" amount of power, blah blah blah.

Wondering if it's gonna be worth having to always put in the extra cash for gas...unless it's pretty noticeable. Wondering how well it might help at the track as well. Thanks.

Drick · September 7th, 2007, 01:22 AM

Im wondering the same thing I was going to do it on my car too

mikebert · September 7th, 2007, 02:25 AM

+6hp / +7tq

According to the stick for destroying dyno myths and that is with a COMPLETELY stock engine, only changing the timing. It gets better from there.

notsoslow50 · September 7th, 2007, 02:31 AM

how do you even go about advancing the timing?

Drick · September 7th, 2007, 02:33 AM

Thats not enough of a gain for me to try it

mikebert · September 7th, 2007, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Thats not enough of a gain for me to try it

Yeah, but it helps from zero to redline. Plus, the benefits are even better after you make some mods. Try it for a week and see if you can't tell a good difference.

mikebert · September 7th, 2007, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by notsoslow50

how do you even go about advancing the timing?

Look in the tech sticky. . . my God . . . do you people even use them??

sivart · September 7th, 2007, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by mikebert

Originally Posted by notsoslow50

how do you even go about advancing the timing?

Look in the tech sticky. . . my God . . . do you people even use them??

stickys are there for your help, i know they have helped me

so here ya go....http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...ing-vt294.html

8A_Honda · September 7th, 2007, 08:29 AM

That's what I looked at. Can't speak for everyone else though. Lol. I guess I'll try setting the timing and then go to the track but if I can't tell much of a difference, I'll probably set it lower.

1slo5.0 · September 7th, 2007, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Thats not enough of a gain for me to try it

6+ horsepower across the board is noticeable and then combine that with another 7hp here and 10hp there and you start to make a big difference. Its not a huge gain but it is free. Free horsepower is a no brainer.

sivart · September 7th, 2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Thats not enough of a gain for me to try it

6+ horsepower across the board is noticeable and then combine that with another 7hp here and 10hp there and you start to make a big difference. Its not a huge gain but it is free. Free horsepower is a no brainer.

true dat

Haggis13 · September 7th, 2007, 09:52 AM

I checked my timing and it was still at 10 degrees from when I had my E-Tests done. I walked it up to 16 degrees, no detonation and it makes a noticeable difference. The car is much peppier, and throttle response is immediate.

Definately one of the first "freeby" horsepower mods that should be done.

Tony_90fox · September 7th, 2007, 12:51 PM

Free hp is da bomb!

Drick · September 7th, 2007, 02:06 PM

Do I have to run premium fuel if I do that becasue I heard somewere that you do

mikebert · September 7th, 2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Do I have to run premium fuel if I do that becasue I heard somewere that you do

Yes. The timing is originally set low so that you can run 87 octane in the car. If you advance the timing and use 87 octane, you'll start to ping. Higher grade fuel will let you run more timing safely.

Drick · September 7th, 2007, 02:41 PM

Thats what I thought the price of premium is to high right now for just 6hp

mikebert · September 7th, 2007, 02:55 PM

What, $.20/gal more than 87? Horsepower costs money, no matter what.

Drick · September 7th, 2007, 03:01 PM

True but when I do my build ill be happy to pay for premmium because ill have about 400 horse but I dont fell like paying alot more for so little I problly wont even noitice it but mabey ill give it a try to see if I fell anything

mikebert · September 7th, 2007, 03:05 PM

You will.

Drick · September 7th, 2007, 03:09 PM

Yes sir ill let you know if there is any difference

September 7th, 2007, 01:16 AM	#1
8A_Honda Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 313 iTrader: 0 reviews	Advancing timing=how much power? Getting the car ready for the track next Sunday. Finally got my sputtering problem fixed with the new distributor but no clue what the timing is at. Just made some marks to get it close when installing the new one. So today I filled up with 93 octane and gonna reset the timing tomorrow at work. Shooting for about 14 degrees I suppose. Anyway, I'm just wondering how much of a difference this will make. Is there any rule of thumb as to how much power it'll add? Kinda like taking away reciprocating weight translates into "x" amount of power, blah blah blah. Wondering if it's gonna be worth having to always put in the extra cash for gas...unless it's pretty noticeable. Wondering how well it might help at the track as well. Thanks.

September 7th, 2007, 02:31 AM	#4
notsoslow50 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 338 iTrader: 0 reviews	how do you even go about advancing the timing? __________________

September 7th, 2007, 09:52 AM	#12
Haggis13 Enthusiast 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 593 iTrader: 0 reviews	I checked my timing and it was still at 10 degrees from when I had my E-Tests done. I walked it up to 16 degrees, no detonation and it makes a noticeable difference. The car is much peppier, and throttle response is immediate. Definately one of the first "freeby" horsepower mods that should be done. __________________ Bart 93 Black on Black GT Kenne Bell S/C GIVE 'ER!

September 7th, 2007, 12:51 PM	#13
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	Free hp is da bomb! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

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September 7th, 2007, 01:22 AM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Im wondering the same thing I was going to do it on my car too

September 7th, 2007, 02:25 AM	#3
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	+6hp / +7tq According to the stick for destroying dyno myths and that is with a COMPLETELY stock engine, only changing the timing. It gets better from there.

September 7th, 2007, 02:33 AM	#5
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Thats not enough of a gain for me to try it

September 7th, 2007, 08:29 AM	#9
8A_Honda Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 313 iTrader: 0 reviews	That's what I looked at. Can't speak for everyone else though. Lol. I guess I'll try setting the timing and then go to the track but if I can't tell much of a difference, I'll probably set it lower.

September 7th, 2007, 02:06 PM	#14
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Do I have to run premium fuel if I do that becasue I heard somewere that you do

September 7th, 2007, 02:41 PM	#16
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Thats what I thought the price of premium is to high right now for just 6hp

September 7th, 2007, 02:55 PM	#17
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	What, $.20/gal more than 87? Horsepower costs money, no matter what.

September 7th, 2007, 03:01 PM	#18
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	True but when I do my build ill be happy to pay for premmium because ill have about 400 horse but I dont fell like paying alot more for so little I problly wont even noitice it but mabey ill give it a try to see if I fell anything

September 7th, 2007, 03:05 PM	#19
mikebert Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 906 iTrader: 0 reviews	You will.

September 7th, 2007, 03:09 PM	#20
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yes sir ill let you know if there is any difference

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