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I see I am gonna have to chit chat with darrel some when I get to building my 5.0

[Speedstang302]

Originally Posted by Darrell Originally Posted by Speedstang302 wow that car was nasty..what kinda hp and tq #'s you think it was pushing..sounds like every time you have a motor built..its nasty..who you get you're motors built through?? It made just over 400hp at the wheels. I build most of my engines and Charlie Sikes of The Race Shop does some work for me too.

yeah thats cool..im young so i like to be able do the work myself too, be able to have the satisfaction of saying, "i built that motor" rather than saying a shop build it..having a dad that been working on cars for 35yrs..helps..

400hp..thats not bad, but not huge, ran like it was more..that means w/ 500hp it would have been a beast..if it wasnt in a 3300lb car, more like a lightened up LX..that thing would have flown..

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by jordan What did you break darrel?

I think a rod let go. I haven't tore the engine down yet but I did pull the spark plugs and valve covers. The number 4 cylinder spark plug is smashed and a few valves are bent and the engine doesn't turn over at all. That's racing, shit happens.

[Tony_90fox]

Originally Posted by Darrell Originally Posted by sn94 shit damn that was a sick ass launch what was ur 60ft ? PaT #06 It 60 foots in the low 1.3s

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by Speedstang302 yeah thats cool..im young so i like to be able do the work myself too, be able to have the satisfaction of saying, "i built that motor" rather than saying a shop build it..having a dad that been working on cars for 35yrs..helps.. 400hp..thats not bad, but not huge, ran like it was more..that means w/ 500hp it would have been a beast..if it wasnt in a 3300lb car, more like a lightened up LX..that thing would have flown..

I used to think the same way thinking that it was more satisfying to be able to say you built your own shit. Now I'm to the point where I'd rather hand it over to someone that has experience on a professional level doing it. There are so many tricks of the trade that make a difference between winning and losing so when you get serious about racing you need to find a good engine builder.

That car would have flown if it was set up to run on motor. A tight converter and gears kills a nitrous car unless you are spraying it.

[Speedstang302]

yeah well mines for street mostly..may hit track once or twice a month..and my father was a proffesional mechanic before, worked in plenty of shops and works on the side with some of his buddys on there drag cars, mostly built his friends 555ci nova, that runs high 9's consistantly, so he know's a little..just that we dont have the tools to do the crazy stuff like machine work..but have easy access to it..

now if i wanted to have a professional builder build me up a motor, i'd buy a notch and build a big block weekend warrior..but as the fact that my current stang only has 54k miles, im not gunna kill her on the track..

[89LX347]

darrel what do you think about proform carbs?

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by 89LX347 darrel what do you think about proform carbs?

I use Holley and that is it. I really don't have an opinion on Proform carb parts but if they are anything like the rest of Proform products, quality isn't one of their priorities.

[BWAL]

well since this thread is all about asking darrell questions, i might as well throw one in too, lol

so darrell, in your opinion, where is the line between fun and unstreetable, hp and tq wise? im looking at a 92 5.0 LX hatch, and i want it to be an all street car.. i want to stomp anything i will EVER come across (c6 z06 in particular) but i want it to be JUST tame enough to be driveable.. you know, without accidentally spinning the tires when i take off, and shit like that. what do you think about a 408 turbo or 408 twin turbo?

how much hp is too much? thats basically what i am trying to say.

[nba1341]

a 408 twin turbo is going to make a SHIT LOAD of horsepower

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by BWAL09 well since this thread is all about asking darrell questions, i might as well throw one in too, lol so darrell, in your opinion, where is the line between fun and unstreetable, hp and tq wise? im looking at a 92 5.0 LX hatch, and i want it to be an all street car.. i want to stomp anything i will EVER come across (c6 z06 in particular) but i want it to be JUST tame enough to be driveable.. you know, without accidentally spinning the tires when i take off, and shit like that. what do you think about a 408 turbo or 408 twin turbo? how much hp is too much? thats basically what i am trying to say.

I don't think horsepower is the limiting factor. Things like heat, fuel type, noise, vibration, power accessories, slicks, spools, etc are going to make it a pain in the ass to street drive not the horsepower.

[TheUNZippee!]

Also BWAL be careful when you use the phrase 'stomp anything I will EVER come across'. There is always something faster lurking around the corner.

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! Also BWAL be careful when you use the phrase 'stomp anything I will EVER come across'. There is always something faster lurking around the corner.

Yes, always.

[JBIGBOOTSY]

Originally Posted by Darrell Originally Posted by BWAL09 well since this thread is all about asking darrell questions, i might as well throw one in too, lol so darrell, in your opinion, where is the line between fun and unstreetable, hp and tq wise? im looking at a 92 5.0 LX hatch, and i want it to be an all street car.. i want to stomp anything i will EVER come across (c6 z06 in particular) but i want it to be JUST tame enough to be driveable.. you know, without accidentally spinning the tires when i take off, and shit like that. what do you think about a 408 turbo or 408 twin turbo? how much hp is too much? thats basically what i am trying to say. I don't think horsepower is the limiting factor. Things like heat, fuel type, noise, vibration, power accessories, slicks, spools, etc are going to make it a pain in the ass to street drive not the horsepower.

+1 I've seen people that try and drive full race cars as "street cars", I am not Knocking that at all, but you have to be able to deal with some major annoying stuff. Once I was in buddies car I wasn't familiar with, I looked over my shoulder to change lanes and split my eye-brow open on the cage I forgot was there. converters, idle, 5 gal fuel cells, drag brakes, stuff like that makes it a pain to drive on the streets IMO.

[BWAL]

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! Also BWAL be careful when you use the phrase 'stomp anything I will EVER come across'. There is always something faster lurking around the corner.

very true, and i understand that, but maybe i should have worded it different..

"stomp 99% of anything i will ever come across"

[ryans88gt]

I'll just throw my 0.02 in there.

I have seen a lot of street driven 9 second mustangs recently. Mostly turbo and nitrous cars. One guy I talked to this year only had about 10K in his car and was running consistent mid 9s with a cartech twin turbo on a 331. Last I saw he was working out his methanol injection kit and hoping for 8s. Then he turns the boost controller down, puts air in the tires and drives the car about every other day. He lived 100 miles away from the track and he drives back and forth.

With cars out there like that you have to be careful who you race title for title...

also a 408 turbo is going to be in the 800-1000hp range with a correctly sized turbo...Good luck getting that to hook up on the street.

[Tony_90fox]

God, i'll ask Darrell a question too! What do you think your car would run if you had a stock suspension setup?

[Speedstang302]

Originally Posted by TheUNZippee! Also BWAL be careful when you use the phrase 'stomp anything I will EVER come across'. There is always something faster lurking around the corner.

see thats why im perfectly fine w/ 400hp N/A on the street, not rwhp..so i know its nastiest car at my school..but there are cars around that would kill me, so i dont get my hopes up and dont get toooooo cocky..

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox God, i'll ask Darrell a question too! What do you think your car would run if you had a stock suspension setup?

I do have a stock suspension set up for the most part. I have coil overs in the rear but they don't make the car any faster or hook any better. It 60 footed the same with stock springs. I only have coil overs for tire clearance.

[Tony_90fox]

you dont have subframes or upper/lower control arms or anything like that?

(I consider that suspension, do you?)