short block differs from a long block how?

mustangfox9091 · September 24th, 2007, 12:19 AM

i was wondering what the differences were between a long block and a short block b/c i was looking to put a new motor in my notch and the short blocks were a lot cheaper, im only 16 and trying to get to know more about mustangs
thanks

89LX347 · September 24th, 2007, 12:24 AM

ha man i remember when i asked myself this question i think i was 16 too ...anyway a shortblock is the block with the rotating assembly in it (pistons rods crank ect.) and a long block has all that plus heads can and valvetrain.. explains why it is more expensive

Tony_90fox · September 24th, 2007, 12:47 AM

and a shortblock is usually WITHOUT a cam too.

89LX347 · September 24th, 2007, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

and a shortblock is usually WITHOUT a cam too.

yah sorry forgot to put that

mustangfox9091 · September 24th, 2007, 08:21 PM

what do you think in the long run would be cheaper to buy?

Tony_90fox · September 24th, 2007, 09:21 PM

probably an already assembled long block...

Personally, i would find a short block you want, and then get a top end you want...

Iownastang · September 24th, 2007, 09:38 PM

+1

Tony_90fox · September 24th, 2007, 09:45 PM

because if you go cheaper, it is definitely not better..and it might have a shitty cam in it, or something else you dont want...

Speedstang302 · September 24th, 2007, 09:46 PM

yeah expensive parts you dont like/want could be a killer

baine21225 · September 25th, 2007, 01:39 AM

find a short block and build it, then you know you are getting exactly what you want and you can build t to do exactly what you want it to do

mustangfox9091 · September 25th, 2007, 09:33 PM

well do you think that the 302 long block on dndmotorsports.com is a good engine

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 09:42 PM

check with coast high also and go with a stroker

Speedstang302 · September 25th, 2007, 09:49 PM

dss isnt too bad either, they also have dart blocks too...i think i found a 347 stroker bullet shortblock from them balanced for $1799.99...not bad..and the darts start near $3k

Speedstang302 · September 25th, 2007, 09:50 PM

but that block has 5.4 rods rather than the 5.315 jordan, and has TW pistons..i cant find any 5.315 rods anywhere?

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 09:52 PM

the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 09:54 PM

heres a link to some kits http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/Ford/ford_347.htm

Speedstang302 · September 25th, 2007, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by jordan

the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs

actually i was there today and they rate the bullets to 450+...well the stock 302 is 500...but i only need to get to about 400-450 anyways...and CHP doesnt give any prices on those..

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 09:58 PM

the street fighter kit is 800 or 900 and the street fighter pro is a little over 1100

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

Originally Posted by jordan

the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs

actually i was there today and they rate the bullets to 450+...well the stock 302 is 500...but i only need to get to about 400-450 anyways...and CHP doesnt give any prices on those..

I was meaning the pro bullet and super pro,I just cant believe they rate a stock block to 650 +hp

89LX347 · September 25th, 2007, 10:06 PM

my CHP 347 street fighter short block was 2300

September 24th, 2007, 12:19 AM	#1
mustangfox9091 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 88 iTrader: 0 reviews	short block differs from a long block how? i was wondering what the differences were between a long block and a short block b/c i was looking to put a new motor in my notch and the short blocks were a lot cheaper, im only 16 and trying to get to know more about mustangs thanks

September 24th, 2007, 12:24 AM	#2
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	ha man i remember when i asked myself this question i think i was 16 too ...anyway a shortblock is the block with the rotating assembly in it (pistons rods crank ect.) and a long block has all that plus heads can and valvetrain.. explains why it is more expensive __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

September 24th, 2007, 12:47 AM	#3
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	and a shortblock is usually WITHOUT a cam too. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

September 24th, 2007, 09:21 PM	#6
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	probably an already assembled long block... Personally, i would find a short block you want, and then get a top end you want... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

September 24th, 2007, 09:45 PM	#8
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	because if you go cheaper, it is definitely not better..and it might have a shitty cam in it, or something else you dont want... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

September 24th, 2007, 08:21 PM	#5
mustangfox9091 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 88 iTrader: 0 reviews	what do you think in the long run would be cheaper to buy?

September 24th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#9
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	yeah expensive parts you dont like/want could be a killer __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 25th, 2007, 01:39 AM	#10
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,338 iTrader: 1 reviews	find a short block and build it, then you know you are getting exactly what you want and you can build t to do exactly what you want it to do __________________ "Whip out your dick you'll either get it sucked or get smacked..." "That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it... and it's worked out pretty well so far..."

September 25th, 2007, 09:33 PM	#11
mustangfox9091 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 88 iTrader: 0 reviews	well do you think that the 302 long block on dndmotorsports.com is a good engine

September 25th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#13
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	dss isnt too bad either, they also have dart blocks too...i think i found a 347 stroker bullet shortblock from them balanced for $1799.99...not bad..and the darts start near $3k __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 25th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#14
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	but that block has 5.4 rods rather than the 5.315 jordan, and has TW pistons..i cant find any 5.315 rods anywhere? __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 25th, 2007, 10:06 PM	#20
89LX347 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 0 reviews	my CHP 347 street fighter short block was 2300 __________________ I believe in art when it is not seen. I believe in music when it is not audible. I believe in God when He is silent.

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