short block differs from a long block how?

mustangfox9091 · September 23rd, 2007, 11:19 PM

i was wondering what the differences were between a long block and a short block b/c i was looking to put a new motor in my notch and the short blocks were a lot cheaper, im only 16 and trying to get to know more about mustangs
thanks

89LX347 · September 23rd, 2007, 11:24 PM

ha man i remember when i asked myself this question i think i was 16 too ...anyway a shortblock is the block with the rotating assembly in it (pistons rods crank ect.) and a long block has all that plus heads can and valvetrain.. explains why it is more expensive

Tony_90fox · September 23rd, 2007, 11:47 PM

and a shortblock is usually WITHOUT a cam too.

89LX347 · September 24th, 2007, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Tony_90fox

and a shortblock is usually WITHOUT a cam too.

yah sorry forgot to put that

mustangfox9091 · September 24th, 2007, 07:21 PM

what do you think in the long run would be cheaper to buy?

Tony_90fox · September 24th, 2007, 08:21 PM

probably an already assembled long block...

Personally, i would find a short block you want, and then get a top end you want...

Iownastang · September 24th, 2007, 08:38 PM

+1

Tony_90fox · September 24th, 2007, 08:45 PM

because if you go cheaper, it is definitely not better..and it might have a shitty cam in it, or something else you dont want...

Speedstang302 · September 24th, 2007, 08:46 PM

yeah expensive parts you dont like/want could be a killer

baine21225 · September 25th, 2007, 12:39 AM

find a short block and build it, then you know you are getting exactly what you want and you can build t to do exactly what you want it to do

mustangfox9091 · September 25th, 2007, 08:33 PM

well do you think that the 302 long block on dndmotorsports.com is a good engine

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 08:42 PM

check with coast high also and go with a stroker

Speedstang302 · September 25th, 2007, 08:49 PM

dss isnt too bad either, they also have dart blocks too...i think i found a 347 stroker bullet shortblock from them balanced for $1799.99...not bad..and the darts start near $3k

Speedstang302 · September 25th, 2007, 08:50 PM

but that block has 5.4 rods rather than the 5.315 jordan, and has TW pistons..i cant find any 5.315 rods anywhere?

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 08:52 PM

the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 08:54 PM

heres a link to some kits http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/Ford/ford_347.htm

Speedstang302 · September 25th, 2007, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by jordan

the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs

actually i was there today and they rate the bullets to 450+...well the stock 302 is 500...but i only need to get to about 400-450 anyways...and CHP doesnt give any prices on those..

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 08:58 PM

the street fighter kit is 800 or 900 and the street fighter pro is a little over 1100

Iownastang · September 25th, 2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

Originally Posted by jordan

the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs

actually i was there today and they rate the bullets to 450+...well the stock 302 is 500...but i only need to get to about 400-450 anyways...and CHP doesnt give any prices on those..

I was meaning the pro bullet and super pro,I just cant believe they rate a stock block to 650 +hp

89LX347 · September 25th, 2007, 09:06 PM

my CHP 347 street fighter short block was 2300

September 23rd, 2007, 11:19 PM	#1
mustangfox9091 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 81	short block differs from a long block how? i was wondering what the differences were between a long block and a short block b/c i was looking to put a new motor in my notch and the short blocks were a lot cheaper, im only 16 and trying to get to know more about mustangs thanks

September 23rd, 2007, 11:47 PM	#3
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,445	and a shortblock is usually WITHOUT a cam too. __________________ Suck on it Trebek. Suck it long, suck it hard.

September 24th, 2007, 08:21 PM	#6
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,445	probably an already assembled long block... Personally, i would find a short block you want, and then get a top end you want... __________________ Suck on it Trebek. Suck it long, suck it hard.

September 24th, 2007, 08:38 PM	#7
Iownastang MM Fanatic 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 4,492	+1 __________________ 347 stroker little street car

September 24th, 2007, 08:45 PM	#8
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,445	because if you go cheaper, it is definitely not better..and it might have a shitty cam in it, or something else you dont want... __________________ Suck on it Trebek. Suck it long, suck it hard.

September 23rd, 2007, 11:24 PM	#2
89LX347 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 423	ha man i remember when i asked myself this question i think i was 16 too ...anyway a shortblock is the block with the rotating assembly in it (pistons rods crank ect.) and a long block has all that plus heads can and valvetrain.. explains why it is more expensive

September 24th, 2007, 07:21 PM	#5
mustangfox9091 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 81	what do you think in the long run would be cheaper to buy?

September 24th, 2007, 08:46 PM	#9
Speedstang302 MM Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 12.86@ 111mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 4,533	yeah expensive parts you dont like/want could be a killer __________________ 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Stock w/ F303 cam and 1.6 Roller Rockers BBK Shortys, BBK o/r H, Flowmaster Super 44s "The LS1 was subject to a paternity test!!! The results are back....03 cobra you are the Father!!!!"

September 25th, 2007, 12:39 AM	#10
baine21225 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,494	find a short block and build it, then you know you are getting exactly what you want and you can build t to do exactly what you want it to do

September 25th, 2007, 08:33 PM	#11
mustangfox9091 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 81	well do you think that the 302 long block on dndmotorsports.com is a good engine

September 25th, 2007, 08:42 PM	#12
Iownastang MM Fanatic 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 4,492	check with coast high also and go with a stroker __________________ 347 stroker little street car

September 25th, 2007, 08:49 PM	#13
Speedstang302 MM Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 12.86@ 111mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 4,533	dss isnt too bad either, they also have dart blocks too...i think i found a 347 stroker bullet shortblock from them balanced for $1799.99...not bad..and the darts start near $3k __________________ 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Stock w/ F303 cam and 1.6 Roller Rockers BBK Shortys, BBK o/r H, Flowmaster Super 44s "The LS1 was subject to a paternity test!!! The results are back....03 cobra you are the Father!!!!"

September 25th, 2007, 08:50 PM	#14
Speedstang302 MM Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 12.86@ 111mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 4,533	but that block has 5.4 rods rather than the 5.315 jordan, and has TW pistons..i cant find any 5.315 rods anywhere? __________________ 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Stock w/ F303 cam and 1.6 Roller Rockers BBK Shortys, BBK o/r H, Flowmaster Super 44s "The LS1 was subject to a paternity test!!! The results are back....03 cobra you are the Father!!!!"

September 25th, 2007, 08:52 PM	#15
Iownastang MM Fanatic 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 4,492	the bullet and super pro bullet blocks are just stock blocks and they advertise them to hold 650+hp what bs __________________ 347 stroker little street car

September 25th, 2007, 08:54 PM	#16
Iownastang MM Fanatic 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 4,492	heres a link to some kits http://www.coasthigh.com/Assemblies/Ford/ford_347.htm __________________ 347 stroker little street car

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September 25th, 2007, 08:58 PM	#18
Iownastang MM Fanatic 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 4,492	the street fighter kit is 800 or 900 and the street fighter pro is a little over 1100 __________________ 347 stroker little street car

September 25th, 2007, 09:06 PM	#20
89LX347 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 423	my CHP 347 street fighter short block was 2300