meter

patwrecked · September 26th, 2007, 04:57 AM

i have a 93gt. mods are: bbk longtubes with bbk o/r x, flowmaster catback, bbk cold ait intake. with a stock 105000 miles. can i bolt this on without a tune? what would i need? how much power. i plan on building a 500 hp spuerchargerd engine, would i be able to use this?

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...0%201&comp=LRS

Drick · September 26th, 2007, 05:02 AM

If you plan on running 500hp there is no way you can still run the 19# injectors so no you will not be able to get by with this

kreil45 · September 26th, 2007, 08:00 AM

C&L have different tubes you can buy that calibrate for the injectors. so, from my understanding you can you just also have to purchase the right calibration tube. my brother went to bigger injectors and he had to get the different tube. its works but, its not exact. he still got it tuned it was off a little bit but not much. the tubes should also be on the same web site. they just bolt inside on the top of it.

Speedstang302 · September 26th, 2007, 10:57 AM

+1...you can always buy the calibration tube from then to calibrate the meter to any injectors you run rather than getting pre calibrated ones...the tubes like 33 bucks..but yeah 19lber will not work for that..i'd say atleast 30lb...cuz when i get my 347 done...i should be getting around 400-450hp to the crank..and be using 30lbers..so 30 or 36...maybe..

Drick · September 26th, 2007, 02:44 PM

Why couldnt you run 24# with the 347 that what im planing on running but mabey I shuld dtep it up to 30#s

ryans88gt · September 26th, 2007, 02:57 PM

I've witnessed dyno numbers of 450 RWHP using 24 lb/hr injectors, but that was at 60 PSI fuel pressure and they were maxed out and the duty cycle was pegged. The guy switched to 30 lb/hr injectors and put down close to 500 hp with some additional tuning and no other upgrades. This was on a supercharged car, which has a higher specific fuel consumption than an NA car.
I think for 500 hp or less you don't want to go over 30 lb/hr injectors or you are going to have serious driveability issues, but that should give you an idea of what the limits are...

patwrecked · September 26th, 2007, 06:50 PM

im just looking for some extra horsepower befroe i decide to build an engine

Speedstang302 · September 26th, 2007, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Why couldnt you run 24# with the 347 that what im planing on running but mabey I shuld dtep it up to 30#s

well you can but like ryan just said dont go more than the 30's..but that much more fuel wouldnt hurt..and like ryan said that guy switched from 24's to 30's and went from 450 to 500hp along with tune and stuff..you could use the 24s..but 30's would be better..

Iownastang · September 26th, 2007, 08:51 PM

im puttin 30's in my stroker

Speedstang302 · September 26th, 2007, 09:30 PM

u must like agreeing with me

Iownastang · September 26th, 2007, 09:31 PM

i do!!

but 30's should be perfect for my combo

Speedstang302 · September 26th, 2007, 09:46 PM

well you doing CHP bottom end and TFS top end?...that what im doing along with 70mm TB and EGR, billet fuel rail, 80mm MAF and an Aeromotive AFPR (even though i like my holley, aeromotive ones are better)

Iownastang · September 26th, 2007, 09:49 PM

Im building my own topend

Speedstang302 · September 26th, 2007, 09:55 PM

what just mixed parts or you just taking some metal and gunna shape youre own intake and heads

Iownastang · September 26th, 2007, 10:02 PM

im mixing parts

Drick · September 26th, 2007, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

what just mixed parts or you just taking some metal and gunna shape youre own intake and heads

Whats wrong with that

i was gonna take a block of steel a cold chisle and a hammer and look at a model of a twisted wedge head a carve my own I seen nothing wrong with it

408gt91 · September 26th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

well you doing CHP bottom end and TFS top end?...that what im doing along with 70mm TB and EGR, billet fuel rail, 80mm MAF and an Aeromotive AFPR (even though i like my holley, aeromotive ones are better)

hmmm.... sounds familiar

o yea thats cause i got my pistons from chp,trickflow heads,80mm maf,aeromotive fuel kit. lol j/k

patwrecked · September 27th, 2007, 12:13 AM

well i have stock 19s i was just gonna recalibrate it when i rebuilt the engine with 30#s

Speedstang302 · September 27th, 2007, 12:38 AM

thats still fine..

Speedstang302 · September 27th, 2007, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

what just mixed parts or you just taking some metal and gunna shape youre own intake and heads

Whats wrong with that i was gonna take a block of steel a cold chisle and a hammer and look at a model of a twisted wedge head a carve my own I seen nothing wrong with it

haha....my new sig...

September 26th, 2007, 04:57 AM	#1
patwrecked Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 339 iTrader: 0 reviews	meter i have a 93gt. mods are: bbk longtubes with bbk o/r x, flowmaster catback, bbk cold ait intake. with a stock 105000 miles. can i bolt this on without a tune? what would i need? how much power. i plan on building a 500 hp spuerchargerd engine, would i be able to use this? http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...0%201&comp=LRS

September 26th, 2007, 05:02 AM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	If you plan on running 500hp there is no way you can still run the 19# injectors so no you will not be able to get by with this __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

September 26th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#4
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	+1...you can always buy the calibration tube from then to calibrate the meter to any injectors you run rather than getting pre calibrated ones...the tubes like 33 bucks..but yeah 19lber will not work for that..i'd say atleast 30lb...cuz when i get my 347 done...i should be getting around 400-450hp to the crank..and be using 30lbers..so 30 or 36...maybe.. __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 26th, 2007, 02:44 PM	#5
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Why couldnt you run 24# with the 347 that what im planing on running but mabey I shuld dtep it up to 30#s __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

September 26th, 2007, 09:30 PM	#10
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	u must like agreeing with me __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 26th, 2007, 08:00 AM	#3
kreil45 Regular 94 Mustang GT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tallahassee,FL Posts: 210 iTrader: 0 reviews	C&L have different tubes you can buy that calibrate for the injectors. so, from my understanding you can you just also have to purchase the right calibration tube. my brother went to bigger injectors and he had to get the different tube. its works but, its not exact. he still got it tuned it was off a little bit but not much. the tubes should also be on the same web site. they just bolt inside on the top of it.

September 26th, 2007, 02:57 PM	#6
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,627 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've witnessed dyno numbers of 450 RWHP using 24 lb/hr injectors, but that was at 60 PSI fuel pressure and they were maxed out and the duty cycle was pegged. The guy switched to 30 lb/hr injectors and put down close to 500 hp with some additional tuning and no other upgrades. This was on a supercharged car, which has a higher specific fuel consumption than an NA car. I think for 500 hp or less you don't want to go over 30 lb/hr injectors or you are going to have serious driveability issues, but that should give you an idea of what the limits are...

September 26th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#7
patwrecked Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 339 iTrader: 0 reviews	im just looking for some extra horsepower befroe i decide to build an engine

September 26th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#12
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	well you doing CHP bottom end and TFS top end?...that what im doing along with 70mm TB and EGR, billet fuel rail, 80mm MAF and an Aeromotive AFPR (even though i like my holley, aeromotive ones are better) __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 26th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#14
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	what just mixed parts or you just taking some metal and gunna shape youre own intake and heads __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

September 27th, 2007, 12:13 AM	#18
patwrecked Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 339 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i have stock 19s i was just gonna recalibrate it when i rebuilt the engine with 30#s

September 27th, 2007, 12:38 AM	#19
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	thats still fine.. __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

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