Head bolt seeping antifreeze

demononwheels · September 29th, 2007, 03:37 PM

I just install a pair of new heads on my 1993 mustang. I'm sure I have the right head gaskets and the heads are torque to spec in the right sequence.
One bolt on the driver side is seeping antifreeze from under the nut. The nut is tight. This would be bolt number 10 (front bottom bolt) if your looking at a torque sequence for a GT-40X XTRA PERFORMANCE “TURBO-SWIRL” ALUMINUM CYLINDER HEADS instructions.
Any one ever had problems like this?

Drick · September 29th, 2007, 03:39 PM

The head is probly cracked around the bolt

demononwheels · September 29th, 2007, 07:26 PM

Maybe, but the machine shop ported, polished, and milled my heads and asked them to let me know if anything was wrong with them before they did the work. Installed by them too.
I'm just trying to figure something out before I call them Monday.

Tony_90fox · September 29th, 2007, 07:48 PM

i would have them take a look at it...we cannot be sure without pics or anything.

Drick · September 29th, 2007, 08:33 PM

yes have them look at it because if they did screw it up you dont want them to pin the damage on you I would drive it over there and make them take a look at it

Speedstang302 · September 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM

well also better hope you didnt accidentally torque that one bolt too hard and crack it yourself..

Drick · September 29th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

well also better hope you didnt accidentally torque that one bolt too hard and crack it yourself..

Yeah that would be bad

demononwheels · September 29th, 2007, 10:24 PM

I guess I'll have to pull the head off. I carefully looked at the corner of the
head and from the outside, I see no cracks. I'll see what happens Monday.
Thanks guys

Iownastang · September 29th, 2007, 10:26 PM

you need to ,let them pull the head off theirselves

demononwheels · September 29th, 2007, 10:56 PM

Well,
There're a machine shop. I guess I would need to pull the motor back out
and take the motor to them.

Iownastang · September 29th, 2007, 10:58 PM

just take the whole car down there they did the work!!And did you buy the heads through them??

demononwheels · September 29th, 2007, 11:01 PM

They did the work as far as the rebuild on motor but I put the motor in the car. The heads I got from ford motorsport. I'll call them monday to see what they say.
Thanks

Drick · September 29th, 2007, 11:29 PM

That definitly what you need to do mabey if you couldnt drive it too so they cant say anything to you about it

jam77 · September 29th, 2007, 11:54 PM

you need to check if the head bolt goes int o the water jacket some chevy motors do that and you have to use rtv on the threads of the head bolts. my dad owned a machine shop for more than 20years. now im not sure on the 302 i have yet to do the heads on my car

ujslost · September 30th, 2007, 10:35 AM

if you did machine work on the heads, ford motorsports aint gonna help ya any.

demononwheels · September 30th, 2007, 12:41 PM

Yea, I knew ford wouldn't help cause of the head work. I just wasn't sure about the water jackets on my heads or block. I didn't know were they were located.
It looks like he did use some kind gray sealant. I'll try to take some pics to show ya'll what I'm talking about.

Thanks

ujslost · September 30th, 2007, 01:29 PM

hope he didnt port to much!

demononwheels · September 30th, 2007, 02:52 PM

Here are some pics. Anti-frezze is dripping out from under the nut.

ujslost · September 30th, 2007, 03:24 PM

try taking that bolt back out and cover the threads in some RTV and reinstall and let it set for 24 hrs and retry.

demononwheels · September 30th, 2007, 03:30 PM

I have a spare 302 that I just took apart. On the passener side, there is a water jacket that could possibly cause that front bolt to seep anti freeze.
Here are a few picks. One pick show the bolt hole with 1/8 inch hole on head gasket which allows a little bit of water to run though and the other pic shows light from my flashlight shinning though the 1/8 hole and visible though the head bolt hole.
I guess the machinest didn't apply enough sealant.

September 29th, 2007, 03:37 PM	#1
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	Head bolt seeping antifreeze I just install a pair of new heads on my 1993 mustang. I'm sure I have the right head gaskets and the heads are torque to spec in the right sequence. One bolt on the driver side is seeping antifreeze from under the nut. The nut is tight. This would be bolt number 10 (front bottom bolt) if your looking at a torque sequence for a GT-40X XTRA PERFORMANCE “TURBO-SWIRL” ALUMINUM CYLINDER HEADS instructions. Any one ever had problems like this? __________________

September 29th, 2007, 03:39 PM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	The head is probly cracked around the bolt __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

September 29th, 2007, 07:26 PM	#3
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	Maybe, but the machine shop ported, polished, and milled my heads and asked them to let me know if anything was wrong with them before they did the work. Installed by them too. I'm just trying to figure something out before I call them Monday. __________________

September 29th, 2007, 07:48 PM	#4
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would have them take a look at it...we cannot be sure without pics or anything. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

September 29th, 2007, 08:33 PM	#5
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	yes have them look at it because if they did screw it up you dont want them to pin the damage on you I would drive it over there and make them take a look at it __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

September 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#6
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	well also better hope you didnt accidentally torque that one bolt too hard and crack it yourself.. __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

September 29th, 2007, 10:24 PM	#8
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	I guess I'll have to pull the head off. I carefully looked at the corner of the head and from the outside, I see no cracks. I'll see what happens Monday. Thanks guys __________________

September 29th, 2007, 10:26 PM	#9
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	you need to ,let them pull the head off theirselves __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

September 29th, 2007, 10:56 PM	#10
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, There're a machine shop. I guess I would need to pull the motor back out and take the motor to them. __________________

September 29th, 2007, 10:58 PM	#11
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	just take the whole car down there they did the work!!And did you buy the heads through them?? __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

September 29th, 2007, 11:01 PM	#12
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	They did the work as far as the rebuild on motor but I put the motor in the car. The heads I got from ford motorsport. I'll call them monday to see what they say. Thanks __________________

September 29th, 2007, 11:29 PM	#13
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	That definitly what you need to do mabey if you couldnt drive it too so they cant say anything to you about it __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

September 29th, 2007, 11:54 PM	#14
jam77 Enthusiast 1987 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: IL Posts: 685 iTrader: 0 reviews	Head bolt seeping antifreeze you need to check if the head bolt goes int o the water jacket some chevy motors do that and you have to use rtv on the threads of the head bolts. my dad owned a machine shop for more than 20years. now im not sure on the 302 i have yet to do the heads on my car __________________ 87 GT, typhoon upper and lower,70mm tb, 90mm maf, bbk shorties, bbk x-pipe, flowmaster cat back, 3:73 gear, pro 5.0 shifter, novi blower,afm power pipe, load IO, Trick Flow heads, Anderson B-31 cam, Anderson PMS, 42 lb injectors, t-rex fuel pump.

September 30th, 2007, 10:35 AM	#15
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	if you did machine work on the heads, ford motorsports aint gonna help ya any. __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

September 30th, 2007, 12:41 PM	#16
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea, I knew ford wouldn't help cause of the head work. I just wasn't sure about the water jackets on my heads or block. I didn't know were they were located. It looks like he did use some kind gray sealant. I'll try to take some pics to show ya'll what I'm talking about. Thanks __________________

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September 30th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#17
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	hope he didnt port to much! __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

September 30th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#18
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	Here are some pics. Anti-frezze is dripping out from under the nut. __________________

September 30th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#19
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	try taking that bolt back out and cover the threads in some RTV and reinstall and let it set for 24 hrs and retry. __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

September 30th, 2007, 03:30 PM	#20
demononwheels Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Panhandle Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have a spare 302 that I just took apart. On the passener side, there is a water jacket that could possibly cause that front bolt to seep anti freeze. Here are a few picks. One pick show the bolt hole with 1/8 inch hole on head gasket which allows a little bit of water to run though and the other pic shows light from my flashlight shinning though the 1/8 hole and visible though the head bolt hole. I guess the machinest didn't apply enough sealant. __________________

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