Track Times

viper3508 · October 2nd, 2007, 03:28 PM

Hi guys,
So thursday of last week I went to the track to run some 1/8ths just to check out what I am suppose to be running versus what I am. MAN was I suprised... I did horrible 10.01 @ 72.3 mph with a 2.27s 60' time.

I have 3.73s, welded in subframes, Ford C springs, Cobra wheels wrapped in yokahoma 520s, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK LT headers, and a 3 pt front strut bar; and I know that its my 60' time thats KILLING ME! but how can I get it all this power to the ground with out burning my tires away the things are harder than diamonds and even when hot they stick very little, heck the 520 is the wear rating for the tires!

I also had a clogged radiator cause it overheated on the way back.... so can anyone suggest a good radiator in the $150 range?

I am considering finding some slicks on crappy rims that are used... anyone know of some cheap ones in the Charlotte, NC area?

Thanks.

Drick · October 2nd, 2007, 03:31 PM

Oh

didnt read the whole thing and was like 10.5 @ 75 MPH

did they carry you down the track a let you down halfway but then I read up top and it was 1/8th mile

Drick · October 2nd, 2007, 03:32 PM

Welcome to the site man enjoy your stay

viper3508 · October 2nd, 2007, 03:45 PM

lol that is kind of funny lol... yea its the 1/8th mile and my traps indicate that I am making ok power, I just suck at launching on anything but a 2 step w/ slicks... I had an '04 mustang prior to this one with all the goodies on it and I have become so use to that I have basically forgotten the tips of how to really launch a car.

BTW my '04 hit a tree, Rain + Non-DOT Drag Radials= Big Ticket + Totaled Car

93'_GT · October 2nd, 2007, 03:52 PM

HAH Your 60- foot times sound kinda good for stock tires. I would do an avg of 2.4 60-foot times....with 295/50 15 tires. So i got some M/T drag radials and it hooks ALOT better. LCA's and Drag springs should also help alot.

viper3508 · October 2nd, 2007, 03:55 PM

I was thinking about getting some air shocks so I could pump them up at the track hopefully find a way to slow the slam on the rear tires a little until I find so better tires... the sucky part is I JUST bought these because I was told they were decent tires, so I dont want to spend a crap load of tires I use two or three times a month?

How hard is it to build your own REAL 4 link? cause I know the Ford design likes to torque bind the UCAs... I dont even think Ive looked into drag springs come to think of it. who makes them?and how much are they?

ryans88gt · October 2nd, 2007, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by 93'_GT

HAH Your 60- foot times sound kinda good for stock tires. I would do an avg of 2.4 60-foot times....with 295/50 15 tires. So i got some M/T drag radials and it hooks ALOT better. LCA's and Drag springs should also help alot.

Really??? you suck

My best out of 4 runs with a stock suspension on 225 all season tires was a 1.8 60 foot time

ryans88gt · October 2nd, 2007, 05:08 PM

the trap speed seems pretty low... and the 60 foot is terrible, to put it into prospective, I pulled a 2.2 60 foot by simply blowing the tires off at 6000 RPMs.

I think 80+ mph through the 1/8th is in the 13.5 second 1/4 mile range.

Try a controlled but fast release off the clutch at different RPMs. Like start at 3000 rpms and quickly release the clutch. If you overpower the tires, go down a few hundred rpms and try again. If you hook up good, but bog the motor, go up a few hundred rpms. Repeat until you find the limit of your tires. Also it might help to air down a little, maybe 25 PSI with radials??

Tony_90fox · October 2nd, 2007, 05:57 PM

hell launching at stock auto at idle i can cut high 2.1s...

I would slip out of the hole and then punch it...i think you'd see some better results that way...

viper3508 · October 2nd, 2007, 06:20 PM

well I started off like I would from a stop light and quickly increased the throttle to 100% within the first 10' for the first time. the second time I attempted to pre-load at 1400 rpm but ended up bogging down... and we only had time for 2 runs and the second run was like a 10.47 vs the first being a 10.01.

ryans88gt · October 2nd, 2007, 06:34 PM

I would start by revving to 3000 rpms and quickly release the clutch at the same time you mash the gas to the floor.

That is basically how I launch my car (except at 5000 rpms).

Are you doing a burnout. Hard radials respond to a 10 second burnout pretty well. Count to yourself in the water box, 1 one thousand, 2 one thousand...etc.. until you get to ten. Then immediately stage.

Tony_90fox · October 2nd, 2007, 06:40 PM

i personally drive around the water box and just bark my tires to get any debris off and then stage...

viper3508 · October 2nd, 2007, 06:40 PM

no I have not been doing 10s long burnouts maybe 2 or 3 seconds, however I will try that next time.

do you think a 2 step rev will help out even with me still running on radials or drag radials? eventually I am going to get slicks.

93'_GT · October 2nd, 2007, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

Really??? you suck

My best out of 4 runs with a stock suspension on 225 all season tires was a 1.8 60 foot time

AWW C MON THEY WERE SUV TIRES!!!!!!!

I would also break them loose on second.

Those tires sucked.

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October 2nd, 2007, 03:28 PM	#1
viper3508 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	Track Times Hi guys, So thursday of last week I went to the track to run some 1/8ths just to check out what I am suppose to be running versus what I am. MAN was I suprised... I did horrible 10.01 @ 72.3 mph with a 2.27s 60' time. I have 3.73s, welded in subframes, Ford C springs, Cobra wheels wrapped in yokahoma 520s, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK LT headers, and a 3 pt front strut bar; and I know that its my 60' time thats KILLING ME! but how can I get it all this power to the ground with out burning my tires away the things are harder than diamonds and even when hot they stick very little, heck the 520 is the wear rating for the tires! I also had a clogged radiator cause it overheated on the way back.... so can anyone suggest a good radiator in the $150 range? I am considering finding some slicks on crappy rims that are used... anyone know of some cheap ones in the Charlotte, NC area? Thanks.

October 2nd, 2007, 03:31 PM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Oh didnt read the whole thing and was like 10.5 @ 75 MPH did they carry you down the track a let you down halfway but then I read up top and it was 1/8th mile __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

October 2nd, 2007, 03:32 PM	#3
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Welcome to the site man enjoy your stay __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

October 2nd, 2007, 03:52 PM	#5
93'_GT Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 205 iTrader: 0 reviews	HAH Your 60- foot times sound kinda good for stock tires. I would do an avg of 2.4 60-foot times....with 295/50 15 tires. So i got some M/T drag radials and it hooks ALOT better. LCA's and Drag springs should also help alot. __________________ Stock 5.0 Engine M/T Drag Radials E.T.- 13.859 MPH-97.23 60 foot-1.853

October 2nd, 2007, 05:08 PM	#8
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,627 iTrader: 0 reviews	the trap speed seems pretty low... and the 60 foot is terrible, to put it into prospective, I pulled a 2.2 60 foot by simply blowing the tires off at 6000 RPMs. I think 80+ mph through the 1/8th is in the 13.5 second 1/4 mile range. Try a controlled but fast release off the clutch at different RPMs. Like start at 3000 rpms and quickly release the clutch. If you overpower the tires, go down a few hundred rpms and try again. If you hook up good, but bog the motor, go up a few hundred rpms. Repeat until you find the limit of your tires. Also it might help to air down a little, maybe 25 PSI with radials?? __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

October 2nd, 2007, 03:45 PM	#4
viper3508 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol that is kind of funny lol... yea its the 1/8th mile and my traps indicate that I am making ok power, I just suck at launching on anything but a 2 step w/ slicks... I had an '04 mustang prior to this one with all the goodies on it and I have become so use to that I have basically forgotten the tips of how to really launch a car. BTW my '04 hit a tree, Rain + Non-DOT Drag Radials= Big Ticket + Totaled Car

October 2nd, 2007, 03:55 PM	#6
viper3508 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	I was thinking about getting some air shocks so I could pump them up at the track hopefully find a way to slow the slam on the rear tires a little until I find so better tires... the sucky part is I JUST bought these because I was told they were decent tires, so I dont want to spend a crap load of tires I use two or three times a month? How hard is it to build your own REAL 4 link? cause I know the Ford design likes to torque bind the UCAs... I dont even think Ive looked into drag springs come to think of it. who makes them?and how much are they?

October 2nd, 2007, 05:57 PM	#9
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	hell launching at stock auto at idle i can cut high 2.1s... I would slip out of the hole and then punch it...i think you'd see some better results that way... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

October 2nd, 2007, 06:20 PM	#10
viper3508 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 reviews	well I started off like I would from a stop light and quickly increased the throttle to 100% within the first 10' for the first time. the second time I attempted to pre-load at 1400 rpm but ended up bogging down... and we only had time for 2 runs and the second run was like a 10.47 vs the first being a 10.01.

October 2nd, 2007, 06:34 PM	#11
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,627 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would start by revving to 3000 rpms and quickly release the clutch at the same time you mash the gas to the floor. That is basically how I launch my car (except at 5000 rpms). Are you doing a burnout. Hard radials respond to a 10 second burnout pretty well. Count to yourself in the water box, 1 one thousand, 2 one thousand...etc.. until you get to ten. Then immediately stage.

October 2nd, 2007, 06:40 PM	#12
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,831 iTrader: 0 reviews	i personally drive around the water box and just bark my tires to get any debris off and then stage... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

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