[Casper98GT]

Flowtech Long tubes = 129.00

Flowtech Shortys = 159.95

Why would long tubes be less expensive? Are they complete crap with horrible fitment ?

[ryans88gt]

I wouldn't buy them, they don't last long.

[Casper98GT]

Am i going to have a big deal with having 1 5/8 insted of 1 3/4' tubes? This kit comes with LT's and offroad midpipe both BBK.

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[ryans88gt]

I dunno, how much power are you planning on making.

I don't really see the point in going to long tubes if you are only going to use 1 5/8" tubes, but I personally prefer shorties whenever possible except for all out racing use.

Also, if you are serious enough about wanting to make power, then you'll skip the ball and socket style BBK headers and get some 3-bolt flange tuneable headers with a 3" collector. With a 2 1/2" ball and socket collector you are forcing all the exhaust through a 2 1/4" hole that creates turbulence and disrupts any scavenging effect.

[Speedstang302]

OK..ryan then who makes 3-bolt flange shortys..in ceramic or chrome..along with a h pipe set up for that?? and if they make 1 3/4 primarys

maybe interested

[JBIGBOOTSY]

Jbigbootsy special, new, never installed flowtech 1 5/8 shorties, $100(shipped to ypur door).

[Speedstang302]

Speedstang Special Response...NO THANKS...

i personally dont like flowtech exhuast

[ryans88gt]

If you have shorties, you aren't worried about making max power...

If you want full length, hooker, heddman, mac, kooks, etc... makes 3-bolt headers for foxes.

Also there are plenty of H-pipes that have 3-bolt flanges, I got mine from MAC.

[Speedstang302]

Originally Posted by ryans88gt If you have shorties, you aren't worried about making max power... If you want full length, hooker, heddman, mac, kooks, etc... makes 3-bolt headers for foxes. Also there are plenty of H-pipes that have 3-bolt flanges, I got mine from MAC.

true just dont want how loud LT's are..and some of the problems..thanks

[JBIGBOOTSY]

It takes alot of exhaust flow to see benifits from a 1 3/4 inch long tube. At 500 hp you might see a 20-30 hp gain from 1 5/8 shorties to 1 3/4 long tubes. At 270hp it will probbably give you no to minimal gains.

[Tony_90fox]

I am a believer in LTs...What does a stock AOD pull on the dyno? 170 maybe?

With LTs, o/r h, flows, and pullies, i pulled 200 HP 291 TQ through my aod. I hear that is pretty impressive.


gotta think ~30 HP from those little mods through an aod...I will probably put LTs on every car i build from now on.

[nolife]

The HP Myths sticky on the main page shows some numbers between LT and shorties. Remove the long tubes from your list of mods above and replace them with some after market shorties, you will probably have 199.8 HP and 290.5 TQ.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with LTs, where they really stand out is high rpm high HP.

[Speedstang302]

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY It takes alot of exhaust flow to see benifits from a 1 3/4 inch long tube. At 500 hp you might see a 20-30 hp gain from 1 5/8 shorties to 1 3/4 long tubes. At 270hp it will probbably give you no to minimal gains.

yeah true..

[Speedstang302]

Originally Posted by nolife The HP Myths sticky on the main page shows some numbers between LT and shorties. Remove the long tubes from your list of mods above and replace them with some after market shorties, you will probably have 199.8 HP and 290.5 TQ. That being said, there is nothing wrong with LTs, where they really stand out is high rpm high HP.

but the higher HP you go, the more you benifit from them

[Timm10221]

I got mac 1 5/8 and they are nice.... i want to change them out in the future to 1 3/4 for hopefully a deeper tone and i also want to get ceramic coated, and bbk's not mac.

[Speedstang302]

yeah i have 1 5/8 ceramic BBK shortys and sound awesome, look good, but i couldnt find 1 3/4 BBK shortys??

[Timm10221]

how is the fitment with the bbk's my mac are leaking right now and it is getting old...

[Speedstang302]

Originally Posted by Timm10221 how is the fitment with the bbk's my mac are leaking right now and it is getting old...

fit fine, easy install, took about 30 minutes, with 2 ppl..no leaks, but i have mr gasket copper gaskets..love them..great buy for $18 bucks

[Timm10221]

i got copper too but i have an exhaust leak and really i dont know where its coming from.... it is getting old

[Casper98GT]

Well i am going s/c, with h/c/i. So i was thinking LT's would be best. I really dont care to mess with longtubes on anything because they just get in youre way with anything. I learned my lesson installing them on a DOHC 4.6 Cobra. They sucked. 5.0's i dont mind. But when i need to yank the bellhousing they are a pain.

If youre saying i will be just fine and wouldnt need to do the swap from shortys or equal lenght to long tubes in the future then i will stick with shortys or equal lenghts.

What is everyones honest opinion....Should i go Long tubes...or stick to shortys or equal lenghts. I need to go full exhaust within the next few weeks. So give me some opinions on what systems work well together.