Question on Full Manual autos.

NYHigH · October 13th, 2007, 02:55 PM

Hey what's up guys, i haven't posted in a while because i sold my mustang and got lost in the 96 Impala SS world for a little bit. I finally came to my senses and am going to buy another mustang so i am doing some planning.

My questions are:

1) Which full manual auto trannies are available for 87-93 mustangs?
I'm not interested in the C-4 because it's going to be a street driven mustang so i need that extra gear.

2) Will what ever tranny you recommend shift right into gear with no hesitation as soon as you move the shifter and hit hard?

3) I was reading and got a little confused about the stock rear-end gears in 87-93 mustangs. I thought they were all stock with 3.08's. Is this correct?

Drick · October 13th, 2007, 03:00 PM

Why not just have a normal stick shift if your driving it on the street

they can take occasional track usage the only people who switch to full manual autos are the cars that normaly only see the track.

Stock rear end is 2.78's some had 3.08's I think Verts came with 3.08's but not sure on that

NYHigH · October 13th, 2007, 03:05 PM

I had a stick and i want to try something different until i get bored of that. My friend had a C-4 in his thunderbird and it was pretty cool to be automatic and just shift on command with no clutch. Plus it felt nice to have that thing snap your neck after hitting second and third. If you ever been in one, you'd know what i'm talking about. Any info?

Iownastang · October 13th, 2007, 05:09 PM

87-93 mustangs did not come with a c4

NYHigH · October 13th, 2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by jordan

87-93 mustangs did not come with a c4

Thanks. I know. I wasn't implying that they did come with a C-4, i was saying i'm not interested in a C-4 so that no one recommends one as a full manual tranny.

Are there any other full manual auto transmissions for these mustangs?

Speedstang302 · October 13th, 2007, 09:44 PM

Not stock..just AOD's, and AOD w/ a shift kit, shifts smooth, fast and VERY hard

the stock gears are 2:73's 8t6

and i had a C4 w/ 3200rpm stall, transgo shift kit set at race mode, and that thing shifted SWEET, also had an 89 F250 460 w/ C6 and another transgo shift kit and that thing snapped you neck when driving to school at 6:30am..funny, shifted hardest when it was cold..

vfast · October 13th, 2007, 09:46 PM

if your looking for a good trans the one out of a newer f150 will work or an aode if nothing else.....

Speedstang302 · October 13th, 2007, 10:09 PM

AOD and AODe's arent "GOOD" transmissions

vfast · October 13th, 2007, 10:13 PM

so true, 4r70w
the aod has to have a kevlar od band

Speedstang302 · October 13th, 2007, 10:28 PM

just get a goddamn T5 lazy a$$..

NYHigH · October 13th, 2007, 11:26 PM

Well which one will shift the way i want with overdrive? I'm looking for a full manual auto, none of that computer controlled shit.

Tony_90fox · October 14th, 2007, 01:56 AM

a Lentech valve body. I believe they make full manual valve bodies.

nba1341 · October 14th, 2007, 05:21 AM

get a c4 and add an overdrive gear on it

Iownastang · October 14th, 2007, 10:48 AM

just put a damn t-5 in it

1slo5.0 · October 14th, 2007, 12:47 PM

Why does a street car need 4 or more gears???? If you want fuel economy use a 5 speed. The mileage difference between an AOD and a C4 is minimal. The AOD has the overdrive gear but also sucks up alot of horsepower at the same time which coincidentally consumes fuel.

NYHigH · October 14th, 2007, 01:44 PM

Well I might go with 3/73 or 4/10's so i thought that the OD gear would help.

So you are saying if i put a C-4 in there it will be about the same?
What are the gears longer or something?
And is it going to shift the way i described?

1slo5.0 · October 14th, 2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by NYHigH

Well I might go with 3/73 or 4/10's so i thought that the OD gear would help.

So you are saying if i put a C-4 in there it will be about the same?
What are the gears longer or something?
And is it going to shift the way i described?

A good transmission will shift hard and quick. The gas mileage difference between a C4 and AOD is not worth the extra money it will cost you to buy a good AOD. The difference between the two is minimal and like I said before if you want fuel economy go with a manual trans.

NYHigH · October 14th, 2007, 04:43 PM

Ok i'm convinced. Are there different C-4's available or are they all the same. Which is a good choice? TCI?

1slo5.0 · October 14th, 2007, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by NYHigH

Ok i'm convinced. Are there different C-4's available or are they all the same. Which is a good choice? TCI?

PA or Dynamic

October 13th, 2007, 02:55 PM	#1
NYHigH Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 170 iTrader: 0 reviews	Question on Full Manual autos. Hey what's up guys, i haven't posted in a while because i sold my mustang and got lost in the 96 Impala SS world for a little bit. I finally came to my senses and am going to buy another mustang so i am doing some planning. My questions are: 1) Which full manual auto trannies are available for 87-93 mustangs? I'm not interested in the C-4 because it's going to be a street driven mustang so i need that extra gear. 2) Will what ever tranny you recommend shift right into gear with no hesitation as soon as you move the shifter and hit hard? 3) I was reading and got a little confused about the stock rear-end gears in 87-93 mustangs. I thought they were all stock with 3.08's. Is this correct?

October 13th, 2007, 03:00 PM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	Why not just have a normal stick shift if your driving it on the street they can take occasional track usage the only people who switch to full manual autos are the cars that normaly only see the track. Stock rear end is 2.78's some had 3.08's I think Verts came with 3.08's but not sure on that __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

October 13th, 2007, 05:09 PM	#4
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	87-93 mustangs did not come with a c4 __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

October 13th, 2007, 09:44 PM	#6
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	Not stock..just AOD's, and AOD w/ a shift kit, shifts smooth, fast and VERY hard the stock gears are 2:73's 8t6 and i had a C4 w/ 3200rpm stall, transgo shift kit set at race mode, and that thing shifted SWEET, also had an 89 F250 460 w/ C6 and another transgo shift kit and that thing snapped you neck when driving to school at 6:30am..funny, shifted hardest when it was cold.. __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

October 13th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#7
vfast Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: shimmy shack takeout Posts: 1,084 iTrader: 0 reviews	if your looking for a good trans the one out of a newer f150 will work or an aode if nothing else..... __________________ EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO MY OPINION:cool: 6'ers are for kids 1965 chevelle SS 421 sbc 6 speed, 3.90 gears,alum d-shaft, brodix heads,roller cam,925 AED carb...grocery getter[COLOR="Red"]RIP[/COLOR]

October 13th, 2007, 03:05 PM	#3
NYHigH Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 170 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had a stick and i want to try something different until i get bored of that. My friend had a C-4 in his thunderbird and it was pretty cool to be automatic and just shift on command with no clutch. Plus it felt nice to have that thing snap your neck after hitting second and third. If you ever been in one, you'd know what i'm talking about. Any info?

October 13th, 2007, 10:09 PM	#8
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	AOD and AODe's arent "GOOD" transmissions __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

October 13th, 2007, 10:13 PM	#9
vfast Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: shimmy shack takeout Posts: 1,084 iTrader: 0 reviews	so true, 4r70w the aod has to have a kevlar od band

October 13th, 2007, 10:28 PM	#10
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	just get a goddamn T5 lazy a$$.. __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

October 13th, 2007, 11:26 PM	#11
NYHigH Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 170 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well which one will shift the way i want with overdrive? I'm looking for a full manual auto, none of that computer controlled shit.

October 14th, 2007, 01:56 AM	#12
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	a Lentech valve body. I believe they make full manual valve bodies. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B] [QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]

October 14th, 2007, 05:21 AM	#13
nba1341 Banned 1965 Mustang Fastback Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles, Cal Posts: 24,982 Posts: 2,194 iTrader: 0 reviews	get a c4 and add an overdrive gear on it __________________ I'm a good boy now. [COLOR=red][B]slow car club - crew member 7 of 9 [COLOR=White]Mood: Cool :cool: [/COLOR][/B] [/COLOR]

October 14th, 2007, 10:48 AM	#14
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	just put a damn t-5 in it __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

October 14th, 2007, 12:47 PM	#15
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Why does a street car need 4 or more gears???? If you want fuel economy use a 5 speed. The mileage difference between an AOD and a C4 is minimal. The AOD has the overdrive gear but also sucks up alot of horsepower at the same time which coincidentally consumes fuel. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

October 14th, 2007, 01:44 PM	#16
NYHigH Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 170 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I might go with 3/73 or 4/10's so i thought that the OD gear would help. So you are saying if i put a C-4 in there it will be about the same? What are the gears longer or something? And is it going to shift the way i described?

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October 14th, 2007, 04:43 PM	#18
NYHigH Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 170 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok i'm convinced. Are there different C-4's available or are they all the same. Which is a good choice? TCI?

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