can a worn nylon bushing cuase gears not to fully engage?

320hpPony? · August 9th, 2006, 07:00 PM

I took the shifter out of my w/c t5 and was examining it because my tranny wont stay in gear when i accelerate or deaccelerate.Since it's a tailshift i was thinking that maybe some bushing or pad might be worn out.I dont know what the tolerances are for the big nylon ball/bushing (that is the pivot point for the shifter) are so i'm not sure if it's "worn"out or not.I wanna find out if this being worn(If it's even worn out) would cuase my problems before i spend $250 on a new shifter.I'd hate to buy a new one then find out it's something WAY more expensive.Any help here would be appreciated! Thanx

320hpPony? · August 9th, 2006, 07:01 PM

I can shift up without any clutch as long as i'm accelerating too

stang fanatic · August 9th, 2006, 07:08 PM

if it wont stay in, generally its cause the slider isnt fully engaging. if the cup for the shifter is worn out completely, its possible it wont fully engage. pad on fork in tranny could be worn or missing. is it doing it in all gears? are there adjustable stops on the shifter assy? possible adjustment got moved and won allow full engagement

320hpPony? · August 14th, 2006, 11:17 PM

It's a stock shifter and thier is no adjusting screws or bolts on it.It'll kick first if i dont hold it in gear on take off and will kick back out of third when i down shift. I can shift progressivly shift up gears without pushing the clutch in as long as im accelerating.It just feels like the shifter isnt pushing the tranny fully into gear.If i hold the shifter in place ,not with excessive force(just one finger will keep it from kicking out),it'll stay in gear without problem.I havent went further into the tranny to see if the pad on the rod is worn as im not too comfortable with transmissions and disassembling them! I will if i'm lead to believe that the problem lays there and is fairly simple to resolve.I'm almost to the point now of just spending the bread to buy a new tranny but man a supercharger was next on my "to get" list and a tranny will set me back a month or two.Any help Fanatic would be appreciated bro

stang fanatic · August 15th, 2006, 11:06 AM

if the nylon cup was completely worn out and the hole it sits in was starting to get elongated, then id think it would be the issue unless the pads on the shift forks are also worn out, then possibly id think that could do it....but hearing you can shift with no clutch, depending on how you do it, sounds like synchros. describe youre ability to shift with no clutch.

320hpPony? · August 18th, 2006, 01:23 AM

Like you would normally from first on up without the clutch though!You dont have to pull it out excessivly,just grab da shifter and ease it to the next gear as long as you are easing on the throttle.If ur IN the throttle it wont work or not on the throttle at all it wont shift without the clutch.I swear im just gonna go pull a t-5 from the junk yard and save for a TKO!

stang fanatic · August 18th, 2006, 10:46 PM

thats called floating the gears..it normal.

320hpPony? · August 19th, 2006, 11:31 AM

That doesnt explain the kickig out of first and third but at least i know SOME of my tranny works normally! TX Fanatic

stang fanatic · August 19th, 2006, 01:28 PM

probaly internal gear and synchro wear. even if you had to replace the bushings on the shift forks, youd still have to open it up enough to see how bad it is....sorry

stang fanatic · August 19th, 2006, 01:30 PM

when you want to spend the dough, send it to me. Ill rebuild it for ya

August 9th, 2006, 07:00 PM	#1
320hpPony? Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: jacksonville,FL Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	can a worn nylon bushing cuase gears not to fully engage? I took the shifter out of my w/c t5 and was examining it because my tranny wont stay in gear when i accelerate or deaccelerate.Since it's a tailshift i was thinking that maybe some bushing or pad might be worn out.I dont know what the tolerances are for the big nylon ball/bushing (that is the pivot point for the shifter) are so i'm not sure if it's "worn"out or not.I wanna find out if this being worn(If it's even worn out) would cuase my problems before i spend $250 on a new shifter.I'd hate to buy a new one then find out it's something WAY more expensive.Any help here would be appreciated! Thanx __________________ Yeah, its ugly, but hot damn its fast! Got 2 camaro SS's and 1 LT1 vette under mah belt in it!

August 9th, 2006, 07:01 PM	#2
320hpPony? Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: jacksonville,FL Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	I can shift up without any clutch as long as i'm accelerating too __________________ Yeah, its ugly, but hot damn its fast! Got 2 camaro SS's and 1 LT1 vette under mah belt in it!

August 9th, 2006, 07:08 PM	#3
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	if it wont stay in, generally its cause the slider isnt fully engaging. if the cup for the shifter is worn out completely, its possible it wont fully engage. pad on fork in tranny could be worn or missing. is it doing it in all gears? are there adjustable stops on the shifter assy? possible adjustment got moved and won allow full engagement __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

August 14th, 2006, 11:17 PM	#4
320hpPony? Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: jacksonville,FL Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	It's a stock shifter and thier is no adjusting screws or bolts on it.It'll kick first if i dont hold it in gear on take off and will kick back out of third when i down shift. I can shift progressivly shift up gears without pushing the clutch in as long as im accelerating.It just feels like the shifter isnt pushing the tranny fully into gear.If i hold the shifter in place ,not with excessive force(just one finger will keep it from kicking out),it'll stay in gear without problem.I havent went further into the tranny to see if the pad on the rod is worn as im not too comfortable with transmissions and disassembling them! I will if i'm lead to believe that the problem lays there and is fairly simple to resolve.I'm almost to the point now of just spending the bread to buy a new tranny but man a supercharger was next on my "to get" list and a tranny will set me back a month or two.Any help Fanatic would be appreciated bro __________________ Yeah, its ugly, but hot damn its fast! Got 2 camaro SS's and 1 LT1 vette under mah belt in it!

August 15th, 2006, 11:06 AM	#5
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	if the nylon cup was completely worn out and the hole it sits in was starting to get elongated, then id think it would be the issue unless the pads on the shift forks are also worn out, then possibly id think that could do it....but hearing you can shift with no clutch, depending on how you do it, sounds like synchros. describe youre ability to shift with no clutch. __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

August 18th, 2006, 01:23 AM	#6
320hpPony? Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: jacksonville,FL Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	Like you would normally from first on up without the clutch though!You dont have to pull it out excessivly,just grab da shifter and ease it to the next gear as long as you are easing on the throttle.If ur IN the throttle it wont work or not on the throttle at all it wont shift without the clutch.I swear im just gonna go pull a t-5 from the junk yard and save for a TKO! __________________ Yeah, its ugly, but hot damn its fast! Got 2 camaro SS's and 1 LT1 vette under mah belt in it!

August 18th, 2006, 10:46 PM	#7
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats called floating the gears..it normal. __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

August 19th, 2006, 11:31 AM	#8
320hpPony? Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: jacksonville,FL Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	That doesnt explain the kickig out of first and third but at least i know SOME of my tranny works normally! TX Fanatic __________________ Yeah, its ugly, but hot damn its fast! Got 2 camaro SS's and 1 LT1 vette under mah belt in it!

August 19th, 2006, 01:28 PM	#9
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	probaly internal gear and synchro wear. even if you had to replace the bushings on the shift forks, youd still have to open it up enough to see how bad it is....sorry __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

August 19th, 2006, 01:30 PM	#10
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 861 iTrader: 0 reviews	when you want to spend the dough, send it to me. Ill rebuild it for ya __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

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