Build up or buy crate engine?? Where to go for crate engine

cgb6810 · October 27th, 2007, 11:33 AM

I've got a automatic 94 gt vert (65,000 miles) that Im looking to add some power too. Ive already added; flowmaster cat back exhaust, BBK cool air intake, transgo shift kit, 3:73 gears and lowered 1-1/2" with tokico shock/spring kit. Just these things have really transformed the car.

Id like to see approximately 350 hp or so. This is just a street car driven maybe 3000 miles per year. I was originally thinking about installing the Trick Flow top end kit with headers. I have to pay a mechanic to install, so I would be in the $3000+ range for the trick flow option.

Other options I might consider are; turbo or supercharging, motor swap or maybe build to 347?

Any opinions would be appreciated. I might spend more then $3000 of it made more sense in the long term.

Vinyl66 · October 27th, 2007, 12:03 PM

crate engines
http://www.proformanceunlimited.com/ford.html

TENGRAM · October 27th, 2007, 12:42 PM

http://fordstrokers.com/

1slo5.0 · October 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

http://fordstrokers.com/

+1

Vinyl66 · October 27th, 2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by TENGRAM

http://fordstrokers.com/

i like that site im thinking about stroking mine into a 347 once i get more cash put together.

1slo5.0 · October 27th, 2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Vinyl66

i like that site im thinking about stroking mine into a 347 once i get more cash put together.

Woody owns Ford Strokers. He is a member on this site.

Iownastang · October 27th, 2007, 01:16 PM

And sells coast high stroker kits

Vinyl66 · October 27th, 2007, 01:18 PM

badass i didn't know that

White Thunder · October 27th, 2007, 02:10 PM

id say either stroke your motor you already have or buy a short block and build it your self. ford strokers gives you some good options but as far as cams and intakes your on your own. look for a custom grind i know there is links on here somewhere...jay Allen at camshaftinnovations.com.

Lauri · October 27th, 2007, 02:27 PM

For goal of 350 horses i'd go with Trick Flow h/c/i set. It may not give you all that, but still would be my choice.

Iownastang · October 27th, 2007, 02:33 PM

the trick flow kit and a 347 will giv you around 400 fwhp

Vinyl66 · October 27th, 2007, 02:56 PM

ive seen AFR advertise putting their heads on a stock 302 to make close to 400hp. i don't know how much i believe that but with some simple mods and those heads you should be at 350

Iownastang · October 27th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Vinyl66

ive seen AFR advertise putting their heads on a stock 302 to make close to 400hp. i don't know how much i believe that but with some simple mods and those heads you should be at 350

not exactly thats on a motor dyno and its oriobably a really high revving engine

Vinyl66 · October 27th, 2007, 03:09 PM

if i wanted to stroke my 302 would i have to change my heads (289 hi-po) because they will starve the engine?

1slo5.0 · October 27th, 2007, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Vinyl66

ive seen AFR advertise putting their heads on a stock 302 to make close to 400hp. i don't know how much i believe that but with some simple mods and those heads you should be at 350

It wasn't a stock 302. The engine was a stock short block with a stock 5 liter hydraulic roller but it also had 1.7 ratio rockers, a Weiand Stealth intake, Demon carb and stepped headers. They also used a Superflow dyno which is a bit optimistic. With a DTS dyno that engine wouldn't have fallen short of their mark.

cgb6810 · October 27th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Thanks for the suggestions and links guys. Ford strokers looks good.

More to think about......

nba1341 · October 27th, 2007, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Vinyl66

crate engines
http://www.proformanceunlimited.com/ford.html

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
over-priced crate engines

and boy do i mean over-priced!!! even with the warranty

Speedstang302 · October 27th, 2007, 11:33 PM

+1 on coast high and ford strokers.

and as far as custom cam i say ed curtis at flowtech...

October 27th, 2007, 11:33 AM	#1
cgb6810 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 35	Build up or buy crate engine?? Where to go for crate engine I've got a automatic 94 gt vert (65,000 miles) that Im looking to add some power too. Ive already added; flowmaster cat back exhaust, BBK cool air intake, transgo shift kit, 3:73 gears and lowered 1-1/2" with tokico shock/spring kit. Just these things have really transformed the car. Id like to see approximately 350 hp or so. This is just a street car driven maybe 3000 miles per year. I was originally thinking about installing the Trick Flow top end kit with headers. I have to pay a mechanic to install, so I would be in the $3000+ range for the trick flow option. Other options I might consider are; turbo or supercharging, motor swap or maybe build to 347? Any opinions would be appreciated. I might spend more then $3000 of it made more sense in the long term.

October 27th, 2007, 12:03 PM	#2
Vinyl66 Undisputed Champion of MM 1966 Vinyl Mustang 06 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,016	crate engines http://www.proformanceunlimited.com/ford.html __________________ Pittsburgh Steelers/Penguins/Pirates FTMFW!!!!! Pittsburgh City of Champions!!!!! 1966 Ford Mustang w/ Black Vinyl top 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4X4 5.7L Hemi (New Exhaust ETA: Installed!) Mods listed in Garage

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TENGRAM Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,027	http://fordstrokers.com/ __________________ 89 GT t5 3.73 www.my5oh.com/

October 27th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#8
Vinyl66 Undisputed Champion of MM 1966 Vinyl Mustang 06 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,016	badass i didn't know that __________________ Pittsburgh Steelers/Penguins/Pirates FTMFW!!!!! Pittsburgh City of Champions!!!!! 1966 Ford Mustang w/ Black Vinyl top 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4X4 5.7L Hemi (New Exhaust ETA: Installed!) Mods listed in Garage

October 27th, 2007, 02:56 PM	#12
Vinyl66 Undisputed Champion of MM 1966 Vinyl Mustang 06 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,016	ive seen AFR advertise putting their heads on a stock 302 to make close to 400hp. i don't know how much i believe that but with some simple mods and those heads you should be at 350 __________________ Pittsburgh Steelers/Penguins/Pirates FTMFW!!!!! Pittsburgh City of Champions!!!!! 1966 Ford Mustang w/ Black Vinyl top 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4X4 5.7L Hemi (New Exhaust ETA: Installed!) Mods listed in Garage

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October 27th, 2007, 02:27 PM	#10
Lauri Newbie 1989 GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 29	For goal of 350 horses i'd go with Trick Flow h/c/i set. It may not give you all that, but still would be my choice.

October 27th, 2007, 03:09 PM	#14
Vinyl66 Undisputed Champion of MM 1966 Vinyl Mustang 06 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,016	if i wanted to stroke my 302 would i have to change my heads (289 hi-po) because they will starve the engine? __________________ Pittsburgh Steelers/Penguins/Pirates FTMFW!!!!! Pittsburgh City of Champions!!!!! 1966 Ford Mustang w/ Black Vinyl top 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4X4 5.7L Hemi (New Exhaust ETA: Installed!) Mods listed in Garage

October 27th, 2007, 04:20 PM	#16
cgb6810 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 35	good suggestions Thanks for the suggestions and links guys. Ford strokers looks good. More to think about......

October 27th, 2007, 11:33 PM	#18
Speedstang302 MM Fanatic 1989 Mustang 5.0 dunno yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 4,755	+1 on coast high and ford strokers. and as far as custom cam i say ed curtis at flowtech... __________________ new project..89 5.0 full restoration beginning..

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Build up or buy crate engine?? Where to go for crate engine

Build up or buy crate engine?? Where to go for crate engine

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