Need Engine Build Advice Please

coony278 · November 13th, 2007, 06:49 PM

Hello all ,

I'am kinda new here, but I need some advice/help on what engine to build for my 87 notch.

For starters I want the car to be able to be driven every day if needed. The main problem i'am having is the fuel injection. I cant deceide if it is worth keeping. I want a ground pounding camshaft. I'am after the sound more than going fast , but I dont want a terd either. I know you can go to big on a camsahft and ruin and engine. But I use to have a 69 nova street strip car that just had an awsome idle to it. I love to hear a good cam hit.
If I was going to just go carb then all would be easy. However what can I do to keep the fuel injection ? And get a good sounding cam without spending a fortune on the fuel injection.
The car is SD , I called a local junk yard today and can get a ECU and wiring harness for 100.00 , what else will I need besides a MAF sensor to get it converted.
Can I get a good sounding cam and make it work on MAF and idle good all thje time ?

Any ideas and help would be appreciated

Chad

vfast · November 13th, 2007, 06:52 PM

don't be more into the lobe than power....first thing I would suggest is your budget!

Iownastang · November 13th, 2007, 07:04 PM

what all are you doing to the car!!!!!!!and its a mustang not a ricer~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

coony278 · November 13th, 2007, 07:05 PM

My budget is around 2500.00 , I dont want to go over that. And I will do all the labor myself except machine work.

I'am just rebuilding the engine is all , the car has a 4:10 gear and a tremec 3550 trans , flowmasters with cross over , bbk shorty headers , underdrive pulleys.
I just want a good sounding street car .
Chad

Iownastang · November 13th, 2007, 07:07 PM

but what do you want to do???

coony278 · November 13th, 2007, 07:14 PM

I want to keep it fuel injected .

Chad

Iownastang · November 13th, 2007, 07:17 PM

i understand that but are you trying to make power or what??keep it stock

coony278 · November 13th, 2007, 07:47 PM

I want to put a cam in it that has a hit to it. Not really trying to get more power I just love to hear a big cam idle

Chad

built351w · November 13th, 2007, 07:48 PM

if you want to go with a hydraulic roller cam i say buy thishttp://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D2221&autoview=sku

if if you just want flat.........hhttp://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7122&autoview=skuydralic s

If a street car is what your going after you want to keep the fuel injection. I'm a carb guy, but my car isn't going to be a daily driver. You want the gas mileage of EFI from the sounds of it

Speedstang302 · November 13th, 2007, 07:49 PM

wow...he has no idea....

coony278 · November 13th, 2007, 07:53 PM

I have no idea ??? What input are you needing for me to get the answer I need ?

Iownastang · November 13th, 2007, 07:54 PM

wont let me post a link

coony278 · November 13th, 2007, 09:55 PM

Ok, let me rephrase my question or simplify it. What engine mods can i get away with and keep the car SD ?

Chad

Iownastang · November 13th, 2007, 10:57 PM

putting a cam in your car is what is going to kill it the most

C MY 4D · November 13th, 2007, 11:01 PM

you can't really do anything with the SD.... spend the money now and convert to MAF then throw an Ecam in it.... it'll sound a little better but won't kill your pocket.

Iownastang · November 13th, 2007, 11:12 PM

exactly,but he can learn the hard way also

ujslost · November 13th, 2007, 11:20 PM

if staying EFI, just buy the damn Holley or trickflow kit, heads, cam, and intake complete kit for around $2500.
if going carbed, buy some trickflow or afr heads, a good cam, good intake and carb and your set

ryans88gt · November 13th, 2007, 11:35 PM

If you want to stay EFI, you'll have to buy a MAF kit. You can buy the ECU at autozone and take you stock one back in the same box and get an upgrade for free. At least I have heard of other people doing that...

You can also have a custom chip burned for your SD kit with the upgrade you make and it will work fine, but for every other modification you make, you'll need another tuning session.

November 13th, 2007, 06:49 PM	#1
coony278 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	Need Engine Build Advice Please Hello all , I'am kinda new here, but I need some advice/help on what engine to build for my 87 notch. For starters I want the car to be able to be driven every day if needed. The main problem i'am having is the fuel injection. I cant deceide if it is worth keeping. I want a ground pounding camshaft. I'am after the sound more than going fast , but I dont want a terd either. I know you can go to big on a camsahft and ruin and engine. But I use to have a 69 nova street strip car that just had an awsome idle to it. I love to hear a good cam hit. If I was going to just go carb then all would be easy. However what can I do to keep the fuel injection ? And get a good sounding cam without spending a fortune on the fuel injection. The car is SD , I called a local junk yard today and can get a ECU and wiring harness for 100.00 , what else will I need besides a MAF sensor to get it converted. Can I get a good sounding cam and make it work on MAF and idle good all thje time ? Any ideas and help would be appreciated Chad Last edited by coony278; November 13th, 2007 at 07:04 PM.

November 13th, 2007, 06:52 PM	#2
vfast Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: shimmy shack takeout Posts: 1,084 iTrader: 0 reviews	don't be more into the lobe than power....first thing I would suggest is your budget! __________________ EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO MY OPINION:cool: 6'ers are for kids 1965 chevelle SS 421 sbc 6 speed, 3.90 gears,alum d-shaft, brodix heads,roller cam,925 AED carb...grocery getter[COLOR="Red"]RIP[/COLOR]

November 13th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#3
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	what all are you doing to the car!!!!!!!and its a mustang not a ricer~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 13th, 2007, 07:05 PM	#4
coony278 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	My budget is around 2500.00 , I dont want to go over that. And I will do all the labor myself except machine work. I'am just rebuilding the engine is all , the car has a 4:10 gear and a tremec 3550 trans , flowmasters with cross over , bbk shorty headers , underdrive pulleys. I just want a good sounding street car . Chad Last edited by coony278; November 13th, 2007 at 07:08 PM.

November 13th, 2007, 07:07 PM	#5
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	but what do you want to do??? __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 13th, 2007, 07:14 PM	#6
coony278 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	I want to keep it fuel injected . Chad

November 13th, 2007, 07:17 PM	#7
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	i understand that but are you trying to make power or what??keep it stock __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 13th, 2007, 07:47 PM	#8
coony278 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	I want to put a cam in it that has a hit to it. Not really trying to get more power I just love to hear a big cam idle Chad

November 13th, 2007, 07:48 PM	#9
built351w Regular 1979 mustang 5.0 hopefully 11's when complete Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 201 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you want to go with a hydraulic roller cam i say buy thishttp://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D2221&autoview=sku if if you just want flat.........hhttp://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL%2D7122&autoview=skuydralic s If a street car is what your going after you want to keep the fuel injection. I'm a carb guy, but my car isn't going to be a daily driver. You want the gas mileage of EFI from the sounds of it Last edited by built351w; November 13th, 2007 at 07:54 PM.

November 13th, 2007, 07:49 PM	#10
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	wow...he has no idea.... __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

November 13th, 2007, 07:53 PM	#11
coony278 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have no idea ??? What input are you needing for me to get the answer I need ?

November 13th, 2007, 07:54 PM	#12
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	wont let me post a link __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600 Last edited by Iownastang; November 13th, 2007 at 07:57 PM.

November 13th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#13
coony278 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ok, let me rephrase my question or simplify it. What engine mods can i get away with and keep the car SD ? Chad

November 13th, 2007, 10:57 PM	#14
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	putting a cam in your car is what is going to kill it the most __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 13th, 2007, 11:01 PM	#15
C MY 4D Billy Weston 2003 Cobra 11.14@124.36 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 4,806 iTrader: 8 reviews	you can't really do anything with the SD.... spend the money now and convert to MAF then throw an Ecam in it.... it'll sound a little better but won't kill your pocket. __________________ TT Build in progress....... Need work done to your car for a great price in Hampton Roads? Shoot me a PM.

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ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	if staying EFI, just buy the damn Holley or trickflow kit, heads, cam, and intake complete kit for around $2500. if going carbed, buy some trickflow or afr heads, a good cam, good intake and carb and your set __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

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ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you want to stay EFI, you'll have to buy a MAF kit. You can buy the ECU at autozone and take you stock one back in the same box and get an upgrade for free. At least I have heard of other people doing that... You can also have a custom chip burned for your SD kit with the upgrade you make and it will work fine, but for every other modification you make, you'll need another tuning session. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

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