How Much Power Will A T5 Hold

November 17th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#41
CAMN89GT Enthusiast 1990 "BLOWN" Mustang GT Single Digit Racing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ON THE BUMPER...... Posts: 723	Once again. Tremec > Stock T5 .. Common sense. __________________ 1990 Mustang GT Rich Groh 342ci (We build 'em BIG!) Vortech V-1 S-Trim, with a C-4 ....How fast can it BE? Just fast enough to hold NY & TX on LOCKDOWN! KOTS! BIG Thanks to..... www.rgrengines.com www.kurganmotorsports.com www.artcarr.com

November 17th, 2007, 07:10 PM	#42
8t6gt From the land of the wolverines 1986 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Smothering v606er with a plastic walmart bag Posts: 7,254	Well no shit Tremec is a better trans then a stock T-5 but it also depends on what trans from tremec your talking about for it to be worth the money to buy instead of sticking with a built T-5 And if you would have read the posts before you Rollin you would have seen we were talking about a Built T-5 __________________ Hurst Crew member #2 of 21 Co Founder of all crews. Lee B and 8t6 the founders of crews Proud member of the no southerners aloud SNOWMOBILE CLUB!

November 17th, 2007, 08:12 PM	#43
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 961	Im persoanlly not a fan of the tremec 3550 or tko 500...im not sure of the differences but they have almost the same gear ratios as the t5. If im going to upgrade to a completely new trans with the same ratios, i'd rather just rebuild the t5 for cheaper. Now the tko 600...thats a different story alltogether.

November 17th, 2007, 08:16 PM	#44
8t6gt From the land of the wolverines 1986 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Smothering v606er with a plastic walmart bag Posts: 7,254	__________________ Hurst Crew member #2 of 21 Co Founder of all crews. Lee B and 8t6 the founders of crews Proud member of the no southerners aloud SNOWMOBILE CLUB!

November 17th, 2007, 08:25 PM	#45
nolife Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,147	For those that are claiming the T-5 (or any manual transmission for that matter) will break of "if you can't shift", or "If you don't know what you are doing" etc.. Can you be more specific what you mean by that? What exactly are you refering too? Speed shifting, missing gears, letting the clutch out to fast when maybe not fully in gear, slipping it out of gear after letting off the gas but before the clutch is fully engaged (it comes out easy when you let off the gas), having a super gripping clutch when you should not, jerking it while in gear (full, none, then full throttle again)? In your opinions, what actually is done wrong that might put a manual transmission at risk? Obviously dumping the clutch in second or reverse would not be a good idea but what else? I have a built T5 that runs great but I've never used slicks. What should I not do to make it last as long as possible? I'd like to think I know how to drive a manual since I;ve had one all of my driving life but maybe not. __________________ 1991 GT - Original owner, all stock 1988 GT - The project car

November 17th, 2007, 08:31 PM	#46
sneezingfox Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 294	Again, the line is drawn between track and street (daily driver). You have all out 1/4 mile freaks putting down factory components. The question was how much can a T-5 take? not a tremec or g-force or anything else. Some one trying to figure out if spending $2k on a budget car is worth it if what he has will suffice is the topic. and the answer to that question cannot be put in the form of HP because we don't all drive the same. with a solid driveline, meaning nothing is broken or worn, you can surpass the recommended hp rating of a t-5. again, not for drag racing!

November 17th, 2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nolife

For those that are claiming the T-5 (or any manual transmission for that matter) will break of "if you can't shift", or "If you don't know what you are doing" etc..
Can you be more specific what you mean by that? What exactly are you refering too? Speed shifting, missing gears, letting the clutch out to fast when maybe not fully in gear, slipping it out of gear after letting off the gas but before the clutch is fully engaged (it comes out easy when you let off the gas), having a super gripping clutch when you should not, jerking it while in gear (full, none, then full throttle again)?
In your opinions, what actually is done wrong that might put a manual transmission at risk? Obviously dumping the clutch in second or reverse would not be a good idea but what else?
I have a built T5 that runs great but I've never used slicks. What should I not do to make it last as long as possible? I'd like to think I know how to drive a manual since I;ve had one all of my driving life but maybe not.

Launching it. You may do a 3K launch on DR's but you won't do any higher on DR's, and if you go to a SLICK, forget it, you're ripping that trans straight the fuck out.

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November 17th, 2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sneezingfox

Again, the line is drawn between track and street (daily driver). You have all out 1/4 mile freaks putting down factory components. The question was how much can a T-5 take? not a tremec or g-force or anything else. Some one trying to figure out if spending $2k on a budget car is worth it if what he has will suffice is the topic. and the answer to that question cannot be put in the form of HP because we don't all drive the same. with a solid driveline, meaning nothing is broken or worn, you can surpass the recommended hp rating of a t-5. again, not for drag racing!

thank you ok say i know how to drive it which i am pretty sure i do i am good about not missing gears i dont speed shift exc will it hold up to my450HP goal for a weekend warrior car not a 1/4 mile slut it will maybe be at the track only when i do a major upgrade to see if it helped. i will try to be absolutely spesific on my next posts so i dont start a fight

but if u were to just ask me if i planned to miss a bunch of gears or race it on a dayly basis i would have said so

anyway i soarted through the input and fighting and found that even if i dont know how to drive a t5 it would be the best thing to learn on cause they are a dime a dozen and once i do know how then it should be able to last the power.. THANK YOU ALL and stop fighting remember we all have mustangs so lets save the shit talking for the BOWTIES

November 17th, 2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by e3sean

thank you ok say i know how to drive it which i am pretty sure i do i am good about not missing gears i dont speed shift exc will it hold up to my450HP goal for a weekend warrior car not a 1/4 mile slut it will maybe be at the track only when i do a major upgrade to see if it helped. i will try to be absolutely spesific on my next posts so i dont start a fight but if u were to just ask me if i planned to miss a bunch of gears or race it on a dayly basis i would have said so anyway i soarted through the input and fighting and found that even if i dont know how to drive a t5 it would be the best thing to learn on cause they are a dime a dozen and once i do know how then it should be able to last the power.. THANK YOU ALL and stop fighting remember we all have mustangs so lets save the shit talking for the BOWTIES

Well, I've been there, Done that .. So I know what it is. It doesn't take Misshifts and Grinding gears, Etc to tear up a trans. You said "Weekend Warrior" Meaning, You're probably going to get on it pretty hard, And ALOT... So therefore, You're at a stage. Either BUILD a T5, or Go good trans and SAVE u when you do go power adder or something.

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November 18th, 2007, 11:32 AM

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My input if anyone cares. How much power will a T5 hold? It depends. It depends on tire composition and size, street or track, how hard you drive it and luck. I've gone deep in the 11s with a stock T5 in a 91 GT. Ryans88gt has done the same. I have also broke hundreds of these transmissions. I used to have a stack of broken input shafts that 98% of the time broke on launch. I've also broken counter shafts and sheared teeth off of gear clusters. If you have the extra money and you are making big horsepower I'd look into a G-Force or Tremec.

Originally Posted by StangAddiction

Im persoanlly not a fan of the tremec 3550 or tko 500...im not sure of the differences but they have almost the same gear ratios as the t5. If im going to upgrade to a completely new trans with the same ratios, i'd rather just rebuild the t5 for cheaper. Now the tko 600...thats a different story alltogether.

Why do you want to change gear ratios in the trans? The reason to buy a Tremec is for the ability to handle more horsepower. Gear ratios are similar but not the same.

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November 18th, 2007, 11:39 AM	#51
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 961	I know exactly what you mean and im not knocking the idea...but when i say rebuild...i mean astro performance or g-force...I'd take the cheaper route if the ratios are going to me that similar.. Im not goin got say i wouldnt drop in a 3550 or a 500, im just going to say i'd rather keep the stock trans and upgrade that. Maybe the tremec is the better choice though...I dunno...Im just trying to state a cheaper route. See you have quite a bit of experience...That i dont have so much of.. You know a little better than i do. Im just sayin: For 450hp...I honestly dont see why you'd need a 3550 or a tko500... Last edited by StangAddiction : November 18th, 2007 at 11:42 AM.

November 18th, 2007, 04:45 PM	#52
e3sean MM Fanatic 1988 lx 5.7 11.5@116 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: arizona Posts: 3,233	how much does one of those g-force rebuild kits run??

November 19th, 2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by e3sean

how much does one of those g-force rebuild kits run??

The gear kit runs from $1100-1700 depending on what you get. A complete trans runs from $2000-2500...

November 19th, 2007, 10:58 PM	#54
e3sean MM Fanatic 1988 lx 5.7 11.5@116 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: arizona Posts: 3,233	wow i may as well get a tremic..lol

November 19th, 2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMN89GT

Launching it. You may do a 3K launch on DR's but you won't do any higher on DR's, and if you go to a SLICK, forget it, you're ripping that trans straight the fuck out.

I typically dump the clutch at 5000 rpms and pull 1.50 60 foots with 11.5 ET streets.

Haven't broken it yet, have a couple 100 runs on it so far...

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November 20th, 2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by e3sean

wow i may as well get a tremic..lol

A complete Tremec swap kit is probabaly around $2500-3000... Assuming you're using you stock trans with a rebuild kit, you'd save at least $800. If you're going to do a tremec swap...Dont skip out on any parts..But i still dont see why you'd need even a rebuilt trans at 450hp unless you pla on racing it.

November 20th, 2007, 10:08 AM	#57
baine21225 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,637	well he may just want it there for the future, it one less weak link he has to worry about down the road

November 20th, 2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baine21225

well he may just want it there for the future, it one less weak link he has to worry about down the road

i agree but i believe the g-force t5 is rated to 600hp/500 lb-ft torque... I wouldnt exactly call it a weak link.

November 21st, 2007, 12:46 AM	#59
baine21225 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,637	true dat

November 21st, 2007, 03:13 AM	#60
e3sean MM Fanatic 1988 lx 5.7 11.5@116 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: arizona Posts: 3,233	i am going to see how i do with the stock t5 when it breaks i will rebuild or replace it then i should have the money for it.