Should I? (Modular Fox)

invisa stang · November 18th, 2007, 01:03 PM

a friend of mine had a 96 GT with the 4.6 in it which he totaled but the drive train is still good and i have a 85 mustang with 0 drive train

is it practical for me to put the drive train out of his car into mine

and do the 4.6 have the same engine mounts as the ones that are still in the my car or no i have to change those too

StangAddiction · November 18th, 2007, 01:14 PM

you'd have to get a different k-member. Otherwise i believe the drivetrain is pretty straight-forward swap. There are a few minor things you'll need to address though. Im not 100% sure...I know there's someone here that knows. But a 4.6 swap in the fox has been known to be somewhat difficult...Im goin to assume it'll be a wiring "hell"...and exhuast will have to be custom..

95StangMX · November 18th, 2007, 01:30 PM

ModularFox they had this discussion the other day....is your fox a V8 or a 4 banger originally?

JBIGBOOTSY · November 18th, 2007, 01:49 PM

I woulden't do it for a non PI engine.

invisa stang · November 18th, 2007, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by 95StangMX

ModularFox they had this discussion the other day....is your fox a V8 or a 4 banger originally?

V8

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 05:33 PM

No dont do it. Those motors came stock with 215 HP it would not be worth the money for the swap

thats the worst year for the stock mod motor

invisa stang · November 18th, 2007, 05:42 PM

ya

im only gonna take it if i can get it for $1500 or less and its better then no motor
expeshaly when its eventually gonna get the kennebell slaped on it

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM

Well theres a plan but the problems off the bat you will run into is PATS system not letting the motor run. You will have to swap the entire wireing harness into it also.

invisa stang · November 18th, 2007, 05:46 PM

what do you mean PATS
what is that and we were planning on doing that

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 05:52 PM

PATS Passive aint teft system

Its in the key there is a chip in the key that the PATS system reads. When you try to start the car the computer picks up on that key that has the chip programed in it. If this key trying to start the car isnt programed into the computer the motor wont start.

But people have put mod motors in foxes before so there has to be a way around it

invisa stang · November 18th, 2007, 05:55 PM

i thought that didnt start untill 98 or 99

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 05:57 PM

Um not sure mabey your right on that tho. But my friend has a 95 GT I swear that thing has PATS but i could be wrong. Hold on ill get the answer to the PATS question

invisa stang · November 18th, 2007, 05:59 PM

k thanks

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 06:40 PM

PATS started in 96 with the OBD2 system

ujslost · November 18th, 2007, 08:01 PM

he wont have to worry about the pats though I dont think

JONJON · November 18th, 2007, 08:55 PM

I wouldnt for that crappy motor now if it was a 99 or better than go for it.Also you will need a stand alone fuel system or one hell of a wire harness job your self which is pretty much as hard as a triple bypass open heart surgery.Good Luck.Oh yea but I didnt say it cant be done I just would for that motor because all the $ you spend on motor,tranny,and wiring you could get a crate motor with some nicer HP.

Speedstang302 · November 18th, 2007, 09:04 PM

just fined an smashed up 03/04 cobra and put that 4v in it w/ a KB s/c...

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

just fined an smashed up 03/04 cobra and put that 4v in it w/ a KB s/c...

Wow thats alot easyier said than done LOL

morgan29 · November 18th, 2007, 09:14 PM

ya im not sure about the motor mounts but that would be a cool motor swap

Drick · November 18th, 2007, 09:15 PM

You gotta buy the K member made for the swap I think

November 18th, 2007, 01:03 PM	#1
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	Should I? (Modular Fox) a friend of mine had a 96 GT with the 4.6 in it which he totaled but the drive train is still good and i have a 85 mustang with 0 drive train is it practical for me to put the drive train out of his car into mine and do the 4.6 have the same engine mounts as the ones that are still in the my car or no i have to change those too

November 18th, 2007, 01:49 PM	#4
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 4,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	I woulden't do it for a non PI engine. __________________ Bolt-on Abraham Lincoln Log motor. With extra wiring.

November 18th, 2007, 05:33 PM	#6
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	No dont do it. Those motors came stock with 215 HP it would not be worth the money for the swap thats the worst year for the stock mod motor __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#8
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well theres a plan but the problems off the bat you will run into is PATS system not letting the motor run. You will have to swap the entire wireing harness into it also. __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 18th, 2007, 05:52 PM	#10
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	PATS Passive aint teft system Its in the key there is a chip in the key that the PATS system reads. When you try to start the car the computer picks up on that key that has the chip programed in it. If this key trying to start the car isnt programed into the computer the motor wont start. But people have put mod motors in foxes before so there has to be a way around it __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 18th, 2007, 01:14 PM	#2
StangAddiction Enthusiast 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 986 iTrader: 0 reviews	you'd have to get a different k-member. Otherwise i believe the drivetrain is pretty straight-forward swap. There are a few minor things you'll need to address though. Im not 100% sure...I know there's someone here that knows. But a 4.6 swap in the fox has been known to be somewhat difficult...Im goin to assume it'll be a wiring "hell"...and exhuast will have to be custom..

November 18th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#3
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,223 iTrader: 0 reviews	ModularFox they had this discussion the other day....is your fox a V8 or a 4 banger originally?

November 18th, 2007, 05:42 PM	#7
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya im only gonna take it if i can get it for $1500 or less and its better then no motor expeshaly when its eventually gonna get the kennebell slaped on it

November 18th, 2007, 05:46 PM	#9
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	what do you mean PATS what is that and we were planning on doing that

November 18th, 2007, 05:55 PM	#11
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	i thought that didnt start untill 98 or 99

November 18th, 2007, 05:57 PM	#12
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	Um not sure mabey your right on that tho. But my friend has a 95 GT I swear that thing has PATS but i could be wrong. Hold on ill get the answer to the PATS question __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 18th, 2007, 05:59 PM	#13
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	k thanks

November 18th, 2007, 06:40 PM	#14
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	PATS started in 96 with the OBD2 system __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

November 18th, 2007, 08:01 PM	#15
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	he wont have to worry about the pats though I dont think __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

November 18th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#16
JONJON Regular 1988 Ford Mustang GT 8.372@82.8 1/8mile w/1.825 60' Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami,FL Posts: 357 iTrader: 0 reviews	I wouldnt for that crappy motor now if it was a 99 or better than go for it.Also you will need a stand alone fuel system or one hell of a wire harness job your self which is pretty much as hard as a triple bypass open heart surgery.Good Luck.Oh yea but I didnt say it cant be done I just would for that motor because all the $ you spend on motor,tranny,and wiring you could get a crate motor with some nicer HP. __________________ I never thought I would own a mustang!!!

November 18th, 2007, 09:04 PM	#17
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,799 iTrader: 1 reviews	just fined an smashed up 03/04 cobra and put that 4v in it w/ a KB s/c... __________________ 1990 GT- 5.0L \|BBK Shortys\|VRS O/R X\| SLP LM1 Catback\|BBK CAI\| Centerforce Clutch\|MGW Short Throw\| Alum D/S\| 3.73's\| Steeda Springs...about as stock as a 5.0 comes now a days..much more to come

November 18th, 2007, 09:14 PM	#19
morgan29 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	ya im not sure about the motor mounts but that would be a cool motor swap

November 18th, 2007, 09:15 PM	#20
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,365 iTrader: 1 reviews	You gotta buy the K member made for the swap I think __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

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