About Stock Block. Answer Quick Please

tehdwarvenn · November 28th, 2007, 10:07 PM

True or false, the stock 302 block in the 93 gt will run chances of breaking at 500 hp.

=) Need this confirmed.

95StangMX · November 28th, 2007, 10:11 PM

you run chances at stock HP depending on driver and car etc. but think the max you wanna take your block to is 550 range

Iownastang · November 28th, 2007, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by 95StangMX

you run chances at stock HP depending on driver and car etc. but think the max you wanna take your block to is 550 range

i wouldnt even go that far 500 at the most

95StangMX · November 28th, 2007, 10:22 PM

just didnt want him to feel like he was right....lol

tehdwarvenn · November 28th, 2007, 10:26 PM

alright guys close the topic.. no more posts. :-)

Iownastang · November 28th, 2007, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by 95StangMX

just didnt want him to feel like he was right....lol

lol

skidoo · November 28th, 2007, 10:30 PM

if you race it every weekend, probably not.
but i think if you use a main cap girdle, about an inch of hardblok, 1/2" arp main and head studs, along with a quality line hone, bore and deck plate hone, it will be fine for moderate use.

Iownastang · November 28th, 2007, 10:32 PM

that dont make the block any stronger it just keeps the two halves of the block together and does not allow the crank to fall out the bottom

skidoo · November 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM

guess you're right.
how about those new boss blocks?
anyone use them much, yet?
what are they worth in the US?

Iownastang · November 28th, 2007, 10:38 PM

they are about 1700 bucks and i dont know much about them if i was going to do a build that needed an aftermarket block it would be a man o war,iron eagle or sportsman

skidoo · November 28th, 2007, 10:49 PM

my work in progress is based on the siamese bore 351svo,(M6010-w351) but
i figure i'll be a long way from pushing the limits of the block. currently stock bore x stock stroke
i'm hoping to put a year of running on it, hopefully season the block a bit before i have enough$$ to buy a 4.125 x 3.75 rotating assembly in a year or so. OR i could put hardwood floors in.. tough choices

Iownastang · November 28th, 2007, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by skidoo

my work in progress is based on the siamese bore 351svo,(M6010-w351) but
i figure i'll be a long way from pushing the limits of the block. currently stock bore x stock stroke
i'm hoping to put a year of running on it, hopefully season the block a bit before i have enough$$ to buy a 4.125 x 3.75 rotating assembly in a year or so. OR i could put hardwood floors in.. tough choices

do the house first if it needs it.

skidoo · November 28th, 2007, 10:55 PM

keep the peace? good plan.
you're right. in her quiet, unassuming way, she always gets what she wants somehow anyway.
but cars are like crack. all this neat stuff is just a click of a mouse away..

Jeimuzu · November 28th, 2007, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by jordan

do the house first if it needs it.

But only if it NEEDS it. You'll enjoy the engine more, and she might, too.

Iownastang · November 28th, 2007, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Jeimuzu

But only if it NEEDS it. You'll enjoy the engine more, and she might, too.

yes only if it needs it,he might even get rewarded

skidoo · November 28th, 2007, 11:18 PM

after 15 yrs wedded bliss, peace and quiet is reward enough..
it might cost me a floor, though..

skidoo · November 28th, 2007, 11:21 PM

what does the little green light mean, under "Posts:" it says distinguished road.wtf?

Speedstang302 · November 29th, 2007, 12:09 PM

the new ford boss 302 is actually pretty good..its limit is somewhere over 1000hp...its compatible with most if not all parts that fit stock windsor 302s...and for being the less expensive out of all so i dont see why they wouldnt be too bad...also they have stronger nickel content allowing you to bore out the motor more than like .40 over like the stock block..they can do like .70over or so..thus meaning the block in 1 peice will last longer becuase you can get it bore .30 over to clean it, and then later .30 over again to clean it again..if you dont blow it up first

Goblin · November 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Speedstang302

the new ford boss 302 is actually pretty good..its limit is somewhere over 1000hp...its compatible with most if not all parts that fit stock windsor 302s...and for being the less expensive out of all so i dont see why they wouldnt be too bad...also they have stronger nickel content allowing you to bore out the motor more than like .40 over like the stock block..they can do like .70over or so..thus meaning the block in 1 peice will last longer becuase you can get it bore .30 over to clean it, and then later .30 over again to clean it again..if you dont blow it up first

Actually, the new Boss block can be taken safely to 4.125" bore, allowing a maximum of 3.400" stroke (Max CI= 363). It costs roughly $1799.99.. and that is unprepped, you'll end up spending over 2k for a fully prepped and machined, ready for assembly peice. HP Capabilities are in the 1300-1400hp range. Good replacement for the R302 and A4.

Speedstang302 · November 29th, 2007, 01:16 PM

thats what i was getting at..didnt know the exact limit of bore...and i knew it was 1300 or so...but over 1000 sounds coooler...1799.99 is just the block..no internals, not decked, honed...the interals could be as low as $750...

November 28th, 2007, 10:07 PM	#1
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 reviews	About Stock Block. Answer Quick Please True or false, the stock 302 block in the 93 gt will run chances of breaking at 500 hp. =) Need this confirmed.

November 28th, 2007, 10:32 PM	#8
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	that dont make the block any stronger it just keeps the two halves of the block together and does not allow the crank to fall out the bottom __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 28th, 2007, 10:38 PM	#10
Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	they are about 1700 bucks and i dont know much about them if i was going to do a build that needed an aftermarket block it would be a man o war,iron eagle or sportsman __________________ 2004 tahoe z71 Daily 2004 BBM Gto ls1 6 speed 57,000 miles 1987 mustang hatch,347,world heads,systemax, kooks lts,nitrous, 6 point cage, team z front and rear suspension,8.8, 4.10s, 31 splines strange axles,wilwood brakes, tko600

November 29th, 2007, 12:09 PM	#18
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	the new ford boss 302 is actually pretty good..its limit is somewhere over 1000hp...its compatible with most if not all parts that fit stock windsor 302s...and for being the less expensive out of all so i dont see why they wouldnt be too bad...also they have stronger nickel content allowing you to bore out the motor more than like .40 over like the stock block..they can do like .70over or so..thus meaning the block in 1 peice will last longer becuase you can get it bore .30 over to clean it, and then later .30 over again to clean it again..if you dont blow it up first __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

November 29th, 2007, 01:16 PM	#20
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	thats what i was getting at..didnt know the exact limit of bore...and i knew it was 1300 or so...but over 1000 sounds coooler...1799.99 is just the block..no internals, not decked, honed...the interals could be as low as $750... __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

November 28th, 2007, 10:11 PM	#2
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	you run chances at stock HP depending on driver and car etc. but think the max you wanna take your block to is 550 range

November 28th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#4
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	just didnt want him to feel like he was right....lol

November 28th, 2007, 10:26 PM	#5
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 reviews	alright guys close the topic.. no more posts. :-)

November 28th, 2007, 10:30 PM	#7
skidoo Newbie 1st was 73mach, now 97 old mach1 12.20@ 117mph Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: carp, canada Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you race it every weekend, probably not. but i think if you use a main cap girdle, about an inch of hardblok, 1/2" arp main and head studs, along with a quality line hone, bore and deck plate hone, it will be fine for moderate use.

November 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#9
skidoo Newbie 1st was 73mach, now 97 old mach1 12.20@ 117mph Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: carp, canada Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	guess you're right. how about those new boss blocks? anyone use them much, yet? what are they worth in the US?

November 28th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#11
skidoo Newbie 1st was 73mach, now 97 old mach1 12.20@ 117mph Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: carp, canada Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	my work in progress is based on the siamese bore 351svo,(M6010-w351) but i figure i'll be a long way from pushing the limits of the block. currently stock bore x stock stroke i'm hoping to put a year of running on it, hopefully season the block a bit before i have enough$$ to buy a 4.125 x 3.75 rotating assembly in a year or so. OR i could put hardwood floors in.. tough choices

November 28th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#13
skidoo Newbie 1st was 73mach, now 97 old mach1 12.20@ 117mph Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: carp, canada Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	keep the peace? good plan. you're right. in her quiet, unassuming way, she always gets what she wants somehow anyway. but cars are like crack. all this neat stuff is just a click of a mouse away..

November 28th, 2007, 11:18 PM	#16
skidoo Newbie 1st was 73mach, now 97 old mach1 12.20@ 117mph Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: carp, canada Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	after 15 yrs wedded bliss, peace and quiet is reward enough.. it might cost me a floor, though..

November 28th, 2007, 11:21 PM	#17
skidoo Newbie 1st was 73mach, now 97 old mach1 12.20@ 117mph Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: carp, canada Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 reviews	what does the little green light mean, under "Posts:" it says distinguished road.wtf?

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