Engine Swap Questions

georgia_stang · December 2nd, 2007, 05:53 PM

a friend wants to find an early 80's stang with a blown engine and install a 460 big block and a manual tranny, possibly a T5....

the 460 will remain stock except for a manifold and holley carb, and a mallory ignition, headers, flowmaster exhaust, etc.....how easy is this conversion??

would that big block drop in or are there special engine mounts and adapters that have to be installed, and if so, is there a company that specializes in these "kits"??

also, would a T5 be able to handle the 460? it's only good for 400HP, so should he go with a beeifer tranny, or would the T5 handle the added torque and HP??

i suspect that when he finishes the engine it will have about 450 HP with some modifications..it should be a scary ride when he finishes for a small price tag!!

any information appreciated, and hopefully someone here has already done this...

White Thunder · December 2nd, 2007, 05:58 PM

first off a t-5 will be torn to shreads by all that power. you would have to look into aftermarket transmissions.

i think the swap is pretty easy....its been talked about her a few times before.

Twist it up · December 2nd, 2007, 06:28 PM

Jegs part # 520-6224K that's just for a start

Drick · December 2nd, 2007, 06:32 PM

You con buy a swap kit wich gives you motor mounts and the headers neccasary for the swap I belive. And you will need an after market trans the T-5 wont hold together behind a built 460

But why a 460 you can easily build a more than powerfull 351W to put in there without as much hassle

Twist it up · December 2nd, 2007, 06:36 PM

built c-4 will work

Drick · December 2nd, 2007, 06:38 PM

It would but is it going to be a street car or an all drag car. I wouldnt street a built manual valve body C-4

Twist it up · December 2nd, 2007, 06:47 PM

why not?

make yourself a sleeper!

Drick · December 2nd, 2007, 06:49 PM

True I guess

Racinjason81 · December 2nd, 2007, 07:51 PM

id use a C6 behind a 460 even though it would sap a little more power its much more durable than a C4.As for a manual you would need either a G force T-5,TKO 500,TKO 600, or a T56

1slo5.0 · December 3rd, 2007, 01:04 PM

A C4 won't hold up very long on the street behind a 460. A C6 is a boat anchor. Find a Powerglide or Turbo 400 to use.

tehdwarvenn · December 3rd, 2007, 02:11 PM

LOL @ Darrell. i like your use of the word Boat Anchor.

baine21225 · December 3rd, 2007, 03:29 PM

why not get a tubular k member and a arms while your at it

baine21225 · December 3rd, 2007, 03:31 PM

AJE Racing - Anthony Jones Engineering - Racing Suspensions

this is who i'm using for my 350 swap

Speedstang302 · December 3rd, 2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

A C4 won't hold up very long on the street behind a 460. A C6 is a boat anchor. Find a Powerglide or Turbo 400 to use.

very true, but consider thats probably an truck 460..and those from the 80s were rated at highest of 275hp...with carb and intake...290...WHOA..geeze...C6 are rocks, there made to last, but not to last behind pwr..find an old 4spd out of an late 60s mustang that was behind an big block...

invisa stang · December 3rd, 2007, 04:25 PM

if i remember correctly to put the 460 in the fox you have to shave the fire wall

Twist it up · December 3rd, 2007, 04:34 PM

and a new hood!

invisa stang · December 4th, 2007, 04:34 PM

why the engines to tall to?

because eventually i wanna do it to the 92

Speedstang302 · December 4th, 2007, 07:35 PM

its an big block...also i think they make lowering motor mounts...so you can avoid that

invisa stang · December 4th, 2007, 07:52 PM

i would rather get the bigger hood

its easyer

Twist it up · December 4th, 2007, 08:01 PM

and some stiffer springs

December 2nd, 2007, 05:53 PM	#1
georgia_stang Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Engine Swap Questions a friend wants to find an early 80's stang with a blown engine and install a 460 big block and a manual tranny, possibly a T5.... the 460 will remain stock except for a manifold and holley carb, and a mallory ignition, headers, flowmaster exhaust, etc.....how easy is this conversion?? would that big block drop in or are there special engine mounts and adapters that have to be installed, and if so, is there a company that specializes in these "kits"?? also, would a T5 be able to handle the 460? it's only good for 400HP, so should he go with a beeifer tranny, or would the T5 handle the added torque and HP?? i suspect that when he finishes the engine it will have about 450 HP with some modifications..it should be a scary ride when he finishes for a small price tag!! any information appreciated, and hopefully someone here has already done this...

December 2nd, 2007, 06:28 PM	#3
Twist it up Regular 1990 hatchback lx Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: north alabama Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	Jegs part # 520-6224K that's just for a start __________________ www.hsvracing.com

December 2nd, 2007, 06:32 PM	#4
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	You con buy a swap kit wich gives you motor mounts and the headers neccasary for the swap I belive. And you will need an after market trans the T-5 wont hold together behind a built 460 But why a 460 you can easily build a more than powerfull 351W to put in there without as much hassle __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

December 2nd, 2007, 06:36 PM	#5
Twist it up Regular 1990 hatchback lx Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: north alabama Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	built c-4 will work __________________ www.hsvracing.com

December 2nd, 2007, 06:38 PM	#6
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	It would but is it going to be a street car or an all drag car. I wouldnt street a built manual valve body C-4 __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

December 2nd, 2007, 06:47 PM	#7
Twist it up Regular 1990 hatchback lx Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: north alabama Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	why not? make yourself a sleeper! __________________ www.hsvracing.com

December 2nd, 2007, 06:49 PM	#8
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	True I guess __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

December 2nd, 2007, 07:51 PM	#9
Racinjason81 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,559 iTrader: 0 reviews	id use a C6 behind a 460 even though it would sap a little more power its much more durable than a C4.As for a manual you would need either a G force T-5,TKO 500,TKO 600, or a T56 __________________ Heres a real funny video youtube.com/watch?v=ojB7KkaR03I VTEC stands for Very Torqueless Economy Car Honda stands for Hold On Not Done Accelerating 1991 LX 5.0 H/B(T-70 turbo coming soon)

December 3rd, 2007, 01:04 PM	#10
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	A C4 won't hold up very long on the street behind a 460. A C6 is a boat anchor. Find a Powerglide or Turbo 400 to use. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

December 3rd, 2007, 02:11 PM	#11
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301 iTrader: 0 reviews	LOL @ Darrell. i like your use of the word Boat Anchor. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, catless h-pipe, bbk shorties, 40 series flows, bbk rear suspension, edelbrock front suspension, AUTOLITES!!! =), k&n, underdrives, 3.73's

December 3rd, 2007, 03:29 PM	#12
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	why not get a tubular k member and a arms while your at it

December 3rd, 2007, 03:31 PM	#13
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	AJE Racing - Anthony Jones Engineering - Racing Suspensions this is who i'm using for my 350 swap

December 3rd, 2007, 04:25 PM	#15
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	if i remember correctly to put the 460 in the fox you have to shave the fire wall __________________ [rides 1987 ford F-350 XLT Lariat 7.3L idi diesel projects 1979 ford F-350 custom (soon to get 7.3Lidi diesel) 1992 ford mustang notch (just shell soon to get engine and drive train hopefully)

December 3rd, 2007, 04:34 PM	#16
Twist it up Regular 1990 hatchback lx Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: north alabama Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	and a new hood! __________________ www.hsvracing.com

December 4th, 2007, 04:34 PM	#17
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	why the engines to tall to? because eventually i wanna do it to the 92 __________________ [rides 1987 ford F-350 XLT Lariat 7.3L idi diesel projects 1979 ford F-350 custom (soon to get 7.3Lidi diesel) 1992 ford mustang notch (just shell soon to get engine and drive train hopefully)

December 4th, 2007, 07:35 PM	#18
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	its an big block...also i think they make lowering motor mounts...so you can avoid that __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

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December 4th, 2007, 07:52 PM	#19
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would rather get the bigger hood its easyer __________________ [rides 1987 ford F-350 XLT Lariat 7.3L idi diesel projects 1979 ford F-350 custom (soon to get 7.3Lidi diesel) 1992 ford mustang notch (just shell soon to get engine and drive train hopefully)

December 4th, 2007, 08:01 PM	#20
Twist it up Regular 1990 hatchback lx Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: north alabama Posts: 227 iTrader: 0 reviews	and some stiffer springs __________________ www.hsvracing.com

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