Smog & A/C Delete

whitefox89 · December 14th, 2007, 03:10 AM

Ok, let me start by saying this thread is going out for all of the people that ask about eliminater pulleys for smog and a/c. You can do that but if you're on a budget and need to save as much $ as possible, this may be a solution to your problem.

I am not sure if there has been a thorough run through on how to do this but i will try and make it short and to the point...

As you can see there are 4 diagrams, but i know most people that want to get rid of smog also want to get rid of a/c too. So, it would do you no good to get rid of power steering and smog just to keep a/c.

The last diagram will be how the belt will end up being ran, you will need to take a tape measure to get a good judgement on the length of belt you need.

Ok, so you will unbolt the tensioner pulley from the alternater bracket by loosening the bolt on the rear side of the tensioner with a wrench or impack if need be.

You will have a tab on the back of the tensioner like on the farthest pictured.
You will need to grind that off completly to get a flat surface like tensioner #2.

Here is an example of a finished product. The tab was ground off so that you could pull the tensioner tight to get a hold on the shorter belt. Proceed to tighten the bolt on the rear of the tensioner back into place.

I decided to grind some of the tensioner housing away so i would have no problems of clearance. You could also run a little longer belt than what i have ran. (my setup has an underdrive crank pulley so i can not be certain my size belt will fit all setups)

If you decide to grind some of the tensioner housing away make sure to remember the bolt on the front of the pulley is reverse threaded. Righty Loosey, Lefty Tighty.

-Well this concludes removal of the smog & a/c pulley to run a smaller belt. I hope i covered all the details and could help. If somebody would like to chime in on the actual removal of the smog pump and pump lines that would be appreciated.

Drick · December 14th, 2007, 03:17 AM

Sticky this

Drick · December 14th, 2007, 04:59 PM

Bump

whitefox89 · December 14th, 2007, 05:50 PM

whitefox89 · December 15th, 2007, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by 8t6gt

Sticky this

whitefox89 · December 17th, 2007, 04:05 AM

bigdawg · December 17th, 2007, 06:31 AM

good write up.

whitefox89 · December 17th, 2007, 07:09 AM

thank you, if anybody has something to add as far as smog pump/lines removal id appreciate it.

JcSurge311 · December 17th, 2007, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by whitefox89

thank you, if anybody has something to add as far as smog pump/lines removal id appreciate it.

well this was in my case but the 84.5" belt was way to big. the 78" belt i got worked perfect for the a/c and crank and water pump and alternator and power steering. just

whitefox89 · December 17th, 2007, 06:02 PM

I found that diagram on google. i would recommend just to measure what you need instead of going off somebody elses thought. im not sure if they are correct but it was good way for me to show a diagram of how to run the belt for a/c and smog removal.

EscortSportage · December 18th, 2007, 01:03 PM

U R THE MAN! THIS IS what ive been talking about for the longest instead of buyin those elimanator brackets for like 80 y dont u run a smaller belt! amazing!

baine21225 · December 18th, 2007, 01:12 PM

Sticky This Fo Sho

whitefox89 · December 19th, 2007, 12:35 AM

Thanks, thats what i made it for. I know alot of people have asked.

Originally Posted by EscortSportage

U R THE MAN! THIS IS what ive been talking about for the longest instead of buyin those elimanator brackets for like 80 y dont u run a smaller belt! amazing!

Originally Posted by baine21225

Sticky This Fo Sho

+1

TT86 · December 19th, 2007, 12:51 AM

Great little write up you gave here, I'm sure it will give lots of great ideas to people. I'll toss in a little more extreme routing too. Recently I found my self in need of running only an Alt and water pump, but did not want to buy a new opposite rotation water pump for my car, so I relocated my tensioner on a piece of plate aluminum, with a 45.5" belt... and well here it is... the way the tensioner is positioned, it actually tightens the belt under acceleration......purposely

whitefox89 · December 19th, 2007, 12:56 AM

Nicely done

Drick · December 19th, 2007, 02:14 AM

Itsnt it bad if it tightens the belt tho. To much resistance

Im gonna use this when I go home too

I still want my A/C but smog is going to GTFO of my car

whitefox89 · December 19th, 2007, 02:24 AM

Id worry about the belt sliding since there are no "sidewalls" i guess is what they're called on the pulley. but if it works i guess it works.

ryans88gt · December 19th, 2007, 02:33 AM

.[/quote]

2 things I can add. You can see in this picture how you could also run it without the Power steering, just the water pump and alt. You do need a standard size crank pulley however to get enough belt on the water pump if you don't run a PS pump.

the second thing is, you can get a tensioner that goes the opposite direction of the stock one so that it pulls the belt ups. I would give you the part number, but my cars in storage for the winter.

Nice work!

ryans88gt · December 19th, 2007, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by TT86

Great little write up you gave here, I'm sure it will give lots of great ideas to people. I'll toss in a little more extreme routing too. Recently I found my self in need of running only an Alt and water pump, but did not want to buy a new opposite rotation water pump for my car, so I relocated my tensioner on a piece of plate aluminum, with a 45.5" belt... and well here it is... the way the tensioner is positioned, it actually tightens the belt under acceleration......purposely

March sells the same thing for $50, however they recommend a slightly different belt routing.

whitefox89 · December 19th, 2007, 02:41 AM

that march one looks nice. someday i will upgrade all my pulleys and what not to look good. but for now. functional is what im lookin at. lol

December 14th, 2007, 03:10 AM	#1
whitefox89 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 525 iTrader: 0 reviews	Smog & A/C Delete Ok, let me start by saying this thread is going out for all of the people that ask about eliminater pulleys for smog and a/c. You can do that but if you're on a budget and need to save as much $ as possible, this may be a solution to your problem. I am not sure if there has been a thorough run through on how to do this but i will try and make it short and to the point... As you can see there are 4 diagrams, but i know most people that want to get rid of smog also want to get rid of a/c too. So, it would do you no good to get rid of power steering and smog just to keep a/c. The last diagram will be how the belt will end up being ran, you will need to take a tape measure to get a good judgement on the length of belt you need. Ok, so you will unbolt the tensioner pulley from the alternater bracket by loosening the bolt on the rear side of the tensioner with a wrench or impack if need be. You will have a tab on the back of the tensioner like on the farthest pictured. You will need to grind that off completly to get a flat surface like tensioner #2. Here is an example of a finished product. The tab was ground off so that you could pull the tensioner tight to get a hold on the shorter belt. Proceed to tighten the bolt on the rear of the tensioner back into place. I decided to grind some of the tensioner housing away so i would have no problems of clearance. You could also run a little longer belt than what i have ran. (my setup has an underdrive crank pulley so i can not be certain my size belt will fit all setups) If you decide to grind some of the tensioner housing away make sure to remember the bolt on the front of the pulley is reverse threaded. Righty Loosey, Lefty Tighty. -Well this concludes removal of the smog & a/c pulley to run a smaller belt. I hope i covered all the details and could help. If somebody would like to chime in on the actual removal of the smog pump and pump lines that would be appreciated. __________________ Last edited by whitefox89; December 14th, 2007 at 03:14 AM.

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December 17th, 2007, 04:05 AM	#6
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December 17th, 2007, 07:09 AM	#8
whitefox89 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 525 iTrader: 0 reviews	thank you, if anybody has something to add as far as smog pump/lines removal id appreciate it. __________________

December 14th, 2007, 03:17 AM	#2
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sticky this __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

December 17th, 2007, 06:31 AM	#7
bigdawg Regular 1990 GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 56 iTrader: 1 reviews	good write up.

December 17th, 2007, 06:02 PM	#10
whitefox89 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 525 iTrader: 0 reviews	I found that diagram on google. i would recommend just to measure what you need instead of going off somebody elses thought. im not sure if they are correct but it was good way for me to show a diagram of how to run the belt for a/c and smog removal. __________________

December 18th, 2007, 01:03 PM	#11
EscortSportage Hardcore Enthusiast 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT Posts: 2,186 iTrader: 0 reviews	U R THE MAN! THIS IS what ive been talking about for the longest instead of buyin those elimanator brackets for like 80 y dont u run a smaller belt! amazing!

December 18th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#12
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sticky This Fo Sho

December 19th, 2007, 12:51 AM	#14
TT86 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 248 iTrader: 0 reviews	Great little write up you gave here, I'm sure it will give lots of great ideas to people. I'll toss in a little more extreme routing too. Recently I found my self in need of running only an Alt and water pump, but did not want to buy a new opposite rotation water pump for my car, so I relocated my tensioner on a piece of plate aluminum, with a 45.5" belt... and well here it is... the way the tensioner is positioned, it actually tightens the belt under acceleration......purposely __________________ 69 convertible: 302/ DART heads/Z303 cam/Vic Jr./ 650 DP Tremec w/ 4:10s 86 hatch: 302/ Edel Al. heads/ F303 cam/ twin Garret T3 turbos 10 psi intercooled 52# injectors MegaSquirt II EMS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_urWMgS_IRQ

December 19th, 2007, 12:56 AM	#15
whitefox89 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 525 iTrader: 0 reviews	Nicely done __________________

December 19th, 2007, 02:14 AM	#16
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	Itsnt it bad if it tightens the belt tho. To much resistance Im gonna use this when I go home too I still want my A/C but smog is going to GTFO of my car __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

December 19th, 2007, 02:24 AM	#17
whitefox89 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 525 iTrader: 0 reviews	Id worry about the belt sliding since there are no "sidewalls" i guess is what they're called on the pulley. but if it works i guess it works. __________________

December 19th, 2007, 02:33 AM	#18
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	.[/quote] 2 things I can add. You can see in this picture how you could also run it without the Power steering, just the water pump and alt. You do need a standard size crank pulley however to get enough belt on the water pump if you don't run a PS pump. the second thing is, you can get a tensioner that goes the opposite direction of the stock one so that it pulls the belt ups. I would give you the part number, but my cars in storage for the winter. Nice work! __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

December 19th, 2007, 02:41 AM	#20
whitefox89 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 525 iTrader: 0 reviews	that march one looks nice. someday i will upgrade all my pulleys and what not to look good. but for now. functional is what im lookin at. lol __________________

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