Clutch Kit

shurb125 · January 5th, 2008, 10:20 PM

I'm looking to upgrade the clutch since I have gone this far, I was thinking of installing a "King Cobra" clutch kit. I have been told this was the route to go and that this kit will not allow as much "slippage" as stock and it will not grab like a race type clutch therfore not immediatly destroying the transmission. What are the other opinions out there???

White Thunder · January 5th, 2008, 10:24 PM

i've heard nothing but good things.....nothing is worse than a huge clutch on a t-5 with WOT shifting.....lol you might aswell get a aod and neutral drop it

problemCOBRA94 · January 6th, 2008, 12:24 AM

I had a king clutch with my stock 302 and killed fast... My budget Ebay/ No name brand clutch has out lasted the king cobra clutch. When I redo mine I will put in a stage 2 clutch. They bite harder but not enough to hurt a T5. They cost more but if you are going to drive it even a little hard that is what I would do. Plus, you don't want to have to replace it very often. they suck unless you have a lift and a tranny jack... I don't.
BTW, as for the brand, you get what you pay for. I will probably buy an ACT stage 2... maybe stage 3.

Iwannagofast · January 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM

i hadnt heard from anyone else about the king cobra clutch wearing out fast.....anyone else had this problem or experiece

dag545 · January 6th, 2008, 10:51 AM

I have the King cobra on my 95 gt and have had it for a couple years now and it still grabs hard. i would get it.

jwyche · January 6th, 2008, 10:53 AM

I've gone through several King Cobra clutches and find them to be excessively stiff for the clamp that you get. You probably won't go wrong with one...just that this old man thinks there's a better way. IMO the idea is to get the most clamp with the least pedal effort so the car is fun and easy to drive. The Centerforce was good for that with it's sliding weights.

Now I'm using a Spec 3+ which is much more aggressive but has easier pedal pressure than the Spec 3. I'm extremely pleased with the clutch and even more so with the company. (They stood behind my Stage 3 even when it was my fault that it was destroyed! It's a long story, but those guys went out of their way to help me.)

If I were going for a mostly street Fox, I'd look really close at the SPEC Stage 2. It will probably cost a bit more than the King Cobra, but there is a warranty, it's made in America, and you can talk to very knowledgeable people.

If you look at my website you'll see the equipment I'm using with those clutches.

Good luck with your choice.
Jim

Black Five 0h · January 6th, 2008, 01:41 PM

i got a ram clutch and a king cobra, id say ram over king cobra better pedal pressure the king cobra is very stiff but both good clutches

shurb125 · January 6th, 2008, 09:15 PM

I've just about finished building a 306 hope to get 350-375 HP out of it, but hopefully in the near future I will be able to afford a supercharger. So my dilema is prepare for the future and get maybe a Spec 3 or 3+ or just go with the stage 2. What's your opinions, I need to have one at my door step by Thursday of this week.

ryans88gt · January 6th, 2008, 09:35 PM

If you don't like your T5 very much and are interested in replacing it, get a spec stage 3. Transmission killer if you take it to the track and use sticky tires. The king cobra isn't the greatest. I recommend the non-king cobra FORD HD clutch. The one with the extra pedal pressure. It just grips better. If you want to go with a spec, stage 2 maximum, unless a trans replacement is in your budget.

As far as them wearing out fast, I have had a HD clutch on my 88 since 2002 and it has seen countless dragstrip passes with 5K rpm launches and has not only saved my T-5, but is still very good (1.5 second 60 foots). The key to making everything work is cleanliness (use a full bottle of brakleen on the parts before installation), new pilot/ throwout bearings, a FORD clutch cable, and a resurfaced flywheel. Replace the rear main seal as well, a leaking rear main with destroy a clutch quickly.

shurb125 · January 6th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Is this the one your talking about ryans88gt?

79-98 CLUTCH KIT, HEAVY DUTY, MOTORSPORT MISCFORD

White Thunder · January 6th, 2008, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

If you don't like your T5 very much and are interested in replacing it, get a spec stage 3. Transmission killer if you take it to the track and use sticky tires. The king cobra isn't the greatest. I recommend the non-king cobra FORD HD clutch. The one with the extra pedal pressure. It just grips better. If you want to go with a spec, stage 2 maximum, unless a trans replacement is in your budget.

As far as them wearing out fast, I have had a HD clutch on my 88 since 2002 and it has seen countless dragstrip passes with 5K rpm launches and has not only saved my T-5, but is still very good (1.5 second 60 foots). The key to making everything work is cleanliness (use a full bottle of brakleen on the parts before installation), new pilot/ throwout bearings, a FORD clutch cable, and a resurfaced flywheel. Replace the rear main seal as well, a leaking rear main with destroy a clutch quickly.

nice rims lol

Speedstang302 · January 6th, 2008, 11:07 PM

i've used my king cobra for a little over 7 months and still no problems...i bought a centerforce dual friction clutch (which not 1 person i read recommended) and i thought i would swap it out immediatly, 2 months later king cobra's still going...if it aint broke dont fix it..the cobra isnt a bad clutch, pedal pressure is a little stiff..but ANYTHING is better than stock..i've had no problem with wearing and nor heard of them wearing quick...that HD clutch ryan recommend i heard a couple good things about so far...

but im set with my centerforce..even with 347 in later...

Stangzilla · January 6th, 2008, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by problemCOBRA94

I had a king clutch with my stock 302 and killed fast... My budget Ebay/ No name brand clutch has out lasted the king cobra clutch. When I redo mine I will put in a stage 2 clutch. They bite harder but not enough to hurt a T5. They cost more but if you are going to drive it even a little hard that is what I would do. Plus, you don't want to have to replace it very often. they suck unless you have a lift and a tranny jack... I don't.
BTW, as for the brand, you get what you pay for. I will probably buy an ACT stage 2... maybe stage 3.

Go ahead and buy a stage 3 and kiss that tranny good by if you drive hard..

86ttops · January 6th, 2008, 11:46 PM

I have a king cobra in mine and they bit i was going to pop the clutch i rolled back and dumped it and bingo drive shaft whent flying out the side broke the yoke on the rear end cande cand the driveshaft and broke off the seal on the back of the trany oops ya they bit lol

ryans88gt · January 7th, 2008, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by shurb125

Is this the one your talking about ryans88gt?

79-98 CLUTCH KIT, HEAVY DUTY, MOTORSPORT MISCFORD

Yeah, that looks like the right one, should be good to about 500 hp or so.
Ford doesn't rate it that high, I'm just going on personal experience.

Centerforce does make a good clutch too. They feel weird IMO, but a lot of people like them.

ryans88gt · January 7th, 2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by White Thunder

nice rims lol

What's wrong with my wheels? They are ROH RTs finished in Black ICE, 17 x 8 up front with 18 x 9 in the rear. I think they look bad ass.

Iwannagofast · January 7th, 2008, 02:21 AM

i just noticed how unproportioned they are in that pic in your sig

Speedstang302 · January 7th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Iwannagofast

i just noticed how unproportioned they are in that pic in your sig

the ones in his sig arent his ROH's....those are drawn in...

Speedstang302 · January 7th, 2008, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by 86ttops

I have a king cobra in mine and they bit i was going to pop the clutch i rolled back and dumped it and bingo drive shaft whent flying out the side broke the yoke on the rear end cande cand the driveshaft and broke off the seal on the back of the trany oops ya they bit lol

JBIGBOOTSY · January 7th, 2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

Yeah, that looks like the right one, should be good to about 500 hp or so.
Ford doesn't rate it that high, I'm just going on personal experience.

Centerforce does make a good clutch too. They feel weird IMO, but a lot of people like them.

I ditched my ram for a centerforce, the ram was killer the CF feels weaker than it is, but after 25K and about 100 or so 1/4 mile runs it's starting to slip.

IMO, Get the strongest clutch, either way, over time the trans is gonna go. Might as well start out with an aggressive clutch and get used to it. My old ram was a bitch to drive, it was in or out. Kinda like a light switch.

January 5th, 2008, 10:20 PM	#1
shurb125 Regular 1993 Mustang LX Vert Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 437 iTrader: 0 reviews	Clutch Kit I'm looking to upgrade the clutch since I have gone this far, I was thinking of installing a "King Cobra" clutch kit. I have been told this was the route to go and that this kit will not allow as much "slippage" as stock and it will not grab like a race type clutch therfore not immediatly destroying the transmission. What are the other opinions out there???

January 6th, 2008, 12:24 AM	#3
problemCOBRA94 Regular 1994 Mustang Cobra it runs now. Kinda... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rocklin, ca Posts: 72 iTrader: 0 reviews	I had a king clutch with my stock 302 and killed fast... My budget Ebay/ No name brand clutch has out lasted the king cobra clutch. When I redo mine I will put in a stage 2 clutch. They bite harder but not enough to hurt a T5. They cost more but if you are going to drive it even a little hard that is what I would do. Plus, you don't want to have to replace it very often. they suck unless you have a lift and a tranny jack... I don't. BTW, as for the brand, you get what you pay for. I will probably buy an ACT stage 2... maybe stage 3. Last edited by problemCOBRA94; January 6th, 2008 at 12:26 AM. Reason: after thought

January 6th, 2008, 10:53 AM	#6
jwyche Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Collegedale, TN Posts: 70 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've gone through several King Cobra clutches and find them to be excessively stiff for the clamp that you get. You probably won't go wrong with one...just that this old man thinks there's a better way. IMO the idea is to get the most clamp with the least pedal effort so the car is fun and easy to drive. The Centerforce was good for that with it's sliding weights. Now I'm using a Spec 3+ which is much more aggressive but has easier pedal pressure than the Spec 3. I'm extremely pleased with the clutch and even more so with the company. (They stood behind my Stage 3 even when it was my fault that it was destroyed! It's a long story, but those guys went out of their way to help me.) If I were going for a mostly street Fox, I'd look really close at the SPEC Stage 2. It will probably cost a bit more than the King Cobra, but there is a warranty, it's made in America, and you can talk to very knowledgeable people. If you look at my website you'll see the equipment I'm using with those clutches. Good luck with your choice. Jim Attached Images __________________ 2002 GT, 1992 GT, 2008 Bullitt. Basic Senior Citizen Transportation for a 63 year old guy. See details at http://web.mac.com/jwyche

January 6th, 2008, 01:41 PM	#7
Black Five 0h Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT Cant wait to find out Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 567 iTrader: 1 reviews	i got a ram clutch and a king cobra, id say ram over king cobra better pedal pressure the king cobra is very stiff but both good clutches __________________ 02 Mustang GT "We build it up, run it hard, we know whats breaking and we enjoy it breaking, we dump money into it, we re-build it stronger, run it harder in anticipation of it breaking again. We are sick individuals."

January 6th, 2008, 09:35 PM	#9
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you don't like your T5 very much and are interested in replacing it, get a spec stage 3. Transmission killer if you take it to the track and use sticky tires. The king cobra isn't the greatest. I recommend the non-king cobra FORD HD clutch. The one with the extra pedal pressure. It just grips better. If you want to go with a spec, stage 2 maximum, unless a trans replacement is in your budget. As far as them wearing out fast, I have had a HD clutch on my 88 since 2002 and it has seen countless dragstrip passes with 5K rpm launches and has not only saved my T-5, but is still very good (1.5 second 60 foots). The key to making everything work is cleanliness (use a full bottle of brakleen on the parts before installation), new pilot/ throwout bearings, a FORD clutch cable, and a resurfaced flywheel. Replace the rear main seal as well, a leaking rear main with destroy a clutch quickly. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

January 6th, 2008, 02:48 AM	#4
Iwannagofast Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 Mustang GT havent gone since gears Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,940 iTrader: 0 reviews	i hadnt heard from anyone else about the king cobra clutch wearing out fast.....anyone else had this problem or experiece

January 6th, 2008, 10:51 AM	#5
dag545 Regular 1995 Mustang GT N/A Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 102 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have the King cobra on my 95 gt and have had it for a couple years now and it still grabs hard. i would get it.

January 6th, 2008, 09:15 PM	#8
shurb125 Regular 1993 Mustang LX Vert Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 437 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've just about finished building a 306 hope to get 350-375 HP out of it, but hopefully in the near future I will be able to afford a supercharger. So my dilema is prepare for the future and get maybe a Spec 3 or 3+ or just go with the stage 2. What's your opinions, I need to have one at my door step by Thursday of this week.

January 6th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#10
shurb125 Regular 1993 Mustang LX Vert Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 437 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is this the one your talking about ryans88gt? 79-98 CLUTCH KIT, HEAVY DUTY, MOTORSPORT MISCFORD

January 6th, 2008, 11:07 PM	#12
Speedstang302 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1996 Mustang GT 13.64@101mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 5,828 iTrader: 1 reviews	i've used my king cobra for a little over 7 months and still no problems...i bought a centerforce dual friction clutch (which not 1 person i read recommended) and i thought i would swap it out immediatly, 2 months later king cobra's still going...if it aint broke dont fix it..the cobra isnt a bad clutch, pedal pressure is a little stiff..but ANYTHING is better than stock..i've had no problem with wearing and nor heard of them wearing quick...that HD clutch ryan recommend i heard a couple good things about so far... but im set with my centerforce..even with 347 in later... __________________ 1990 GT- GT40p Heads\| Anderson N41 cam\| Crane 1.6 RR's\| Trickflow Intake\|MGW Short Throw\| Aluminum d/s\| 3.73's.....still slow....

January 6th, 2008, 11:46 PM	#14
86ttops Hardcore Enthusiast 86,97 mustang gt t tops n/a Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: decatur il Posts: 1,287 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have a king cobra in mine and they bit i was going to pop the clutch i rolled back and dumped it and bingo drive shaft whent flying out the side broke the yoke on the rear end cande cand the driveshaft and broke off the seal on the back of the trany oops ya they bit lol

January 7th, 2008, 02:21 AM	#17
Iwannagofast Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 Mustang GT havent gone since gears Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,940 iTrader: 0 reviews	i just noticed how unproportioned they are in that pic in your sig

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