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Old January 10th, 2008, 08:18 AM   #1
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Well hell! I put my flywheel, trans and all back on last night. Forgot to put the block plate on behind the flywheel. I have seen ppl run without them before and just put a small washer on their starter bolts between the starter and the bellhousing. Just wondering what ya guys think.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 08:54 AM   #2
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If you do any substantial amount of street driving, you'll wanna put it back on.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #3
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Old January 10th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #4
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Road debris and flywheel/clutch do not mix well.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM   #5
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yeah you really are asking for it by leaving that plate off
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I'd take it apart and put the block plate back in.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 06:22 PM   #7
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Im gonna use washers for right now. And if everything is ok with the trans and the vibration is gone, then I will take it back down.
The plate is really just a spacer for the starter and a debris shield.
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yeah just a debris shield....tell me how thats works for ya...maybe i wont try it
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Originally Posted by ujslost View Post
Im gonna use washers for right now. And if everything is ok with the trans and the vibration is gone, then I will take it back down.
The plate is really just a spacer for the starter and a debris shield.
It also serves as a spacer to space the input shaft from the back of the crank.
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lol, maybe you can just loosen all the bolts and put washers behind them all.

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+ I think its a rule at the track that the flywheel cant be exposed.. I think..
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I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good.
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Originally Posted by ujslost View Post
I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good.
You know for a fact? Then go do it.

Not all machined parts are machined the same or have the same tolerances. Maybe one time you seen this done and didn't see any problems occur but how do you know you are not going to have issues now? The plate is there for a reason and not just for a starter shim. What happnes if your input shaft bottoms out the back of the crank? I've seen problems due to not running a block plate in both automatic and manual transmissions. But its your car, do what you want.
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Originally Posted by ujslost View Post
I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good.

ya man if your gonna put it back on later u might as well spend the hour and do it now...if it does what darrell says and messes up the input shaft "and it very well could there is a very fine area between the input shaft and the crank" then you will be replacing the input shaft which is not fun to do cause you will most likely have to open up the tranny cause when u take the shaft off 9x out of ten the 15 needle bearings fall into the case..and that's another thing....check the tip of the input shaft make sure there is no damage on it that is a common problem and that could be causing your vibration..

these guys don't suggest things like that to make fun of you they do it to help save you time and money.your here for a reason and that is to ask questions like that and if u were sure it wouldn't mess anything up u wouldn't have asked it.. it is your car do with it what u will and i hope it works for ya we are just trying to be safe and to tell you what could potentially happen..
 
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Originally Posted by e3sean View Post
ya man if your gonna put it back on later u might as well spend the hour and do it now...if it does what darrell says and messes up the input shaft "and it very well could there is a very fine area between the input shaft and the crank" then you will be replacing the input shaft which is not fun to do cause you will most likely have to open up the tranny cause when u take the shaft off 9x out of ten the 15 needle bearings fall into the case..and that's another thing....check the tip of the input shaft make sure there is no damage on it that is a common problem and that could be causing your vibration..

these guys don't suggest things like that to make fun of you they do it to help save you time and money.your here for a reason and that is to ask questions like that and if u were sure it wouldn't mess anything up u wouldn't have asked it.. it is your car do with it what u will and i hope it works for ya we are just trying to be safe and to tell you what could potentially happen..
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Old January 11th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #16
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the vibration wasnt the input shaft, you must have missed that thread. I just picked this transmission up and rebuilt it so I know all about the 15 bearings. Took the mic to, and did some measuring with another engine and transmission that I have and there is no way the input shaft is gonna touch the back of the crankshaft.
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