Aluminum block plate

ujslost · January 10th, 2008, 08:18 AM

Well hell! I put my flywheel, trans and all back on last night. Forgot to put the block plate on behind the flywheel. I have seen ppl run without them before and just put a small washer on their starter bolts between the starter and the bellhousing. Just wondering what ya guys think.

JBIGBOOTSY · January 10th, 2008, 08:54 AM

If you do any substantial amount of street driving, you'll wanna put it back on.

Speedstang302 · January 10th, 2008, 02:14 PM

+1

ryans88gt · January 10th, 2008, 02:36 PM

Road debris and flywheel/clutch do not mix well.

Speedstang302 · January 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM

yeah you really are asking for it by leaving that plate off

Darrell · January 10th, 2008, 04:18 PM

I'd take it apart and put the block plate back in.

ujslost · January 10th, 2008, 06:22 PM

Im gonna use washers for right now. And if everything is ok with the trans and the vibration is gone, then I will take it back down.
The plate is really just a spacer for the starter and a debris shield.

Speedstang302 · January 10th, 2008, 09:07 PM

yeah just a debris shield....tell me how thats works for ya...maybe i wont try it

Darrell · January 10th, 2008, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by ujslost

Im gonna use washers for right now. And if everything is ok with the trans and the vibration is gone, then I will take it back down.
The plate is really just a spacer for the starter and a debris shield.

It also serves as a spacer to space the input shaft from the back of the crank.

ryans88gt · January 10th, 2008, 11:10 PM

lol, maybe you can just loosen all the bolts and put washers behind them all.

Do it right or pay the price

Stangzilla · January 10th, 2008, 11:28 PM

+ I think its a rule at the track that the flywheel cant be exposed.. I think..

ujslost · January 10th, 2008, 11:31 PM

I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good.

Darrell · January 11th, 2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by ujslost

I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good.

You know for a fact? Then go do it.

Not all machined parts are machined the same or have the same tolerances. Maybe one time you seen this done and didn't see any problems occur but how do you know you are not going to have issues now? The plate is there for a reason and not just for a starter shim. What happnes if your input shaft bottoms out the back of the crank? I've seen problems due to not running a block plate in both automatic and manual transmissions. But its your car, do what you want.

e3sean · January 11th, 2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by ujslost

I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good.

ya man if your gonna put it back on later u might as well spend the hour and do it now...if it does what darrell says and messes up the input shaft "and it very well could there is a very fine area between the input shaft and the crank" then you will be replacing the input shaft which is not fun to do cause you will most likely have to open up the tranny cause when u take the shaft off 9x out of ten the 15 needle bearings fall into the case..and that's another thing....check the tip of the input shaft make sure there is no damage on it that is a common problem and that could be causing your vibration..

these guys don't suggest things like that to make fun of you they do it to help save you time and money.your here for a reason and that is to ask questions like that and if u were sure it wouldn't mess anything up u wouldn't have asked it.. it is your car do with it what u will and i hope it works for ya we are just trying to be safe and to tell you what could potentially happen..

Iownastang · January 11th, 2008, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by e3sean

ya man if your gonna put it back on later u might as well spend the hour and do it now...if it does what darrell says and messes up the input shaft "and it very well could there is a very fine area between the input shaft and the crank" then you will be replacing the input shaft which is not fun to do cause you will most likely have to open up the tranny cause when u take the shaft off 9x out of ten the 15 needle bearings fall into the case..and that's another thing....check the tip of the input shaft make sure there is no damage on it that is a common problem and that could be causing your vibration..

these guys don't suggest things like that to make fun of you they do it to help save you time and money.your here for a reason and that is to ask questions like that and if u were sure it wouldn't mess anything up u wouldn't have asked it.. it is your car do with it what u will and i hope it works for ya we are just trying to be safe and to tell you what could potentially happen..

+1

ujslost · January 11th, 2008, 10:59 PM

the vibration wasnt the input shaft, you must have missed that thread. I just picked this transmission up and rebuilt it so I know all about the 15 bearings. Took the mic to, and did some measuring with another engine and transmission that I have and there is no way the input shaft is gonna touch the back of the crankshaft.

January 10th, 2008, 08:18 AM	#1
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	Aluminum block plate Well hell! I put my flywheel, trans and all back on last night. Forgot to put the block plate on behind the flywheel. I have seen ppl run without them before and just put a small washer on their starter bolts between the starter and the bellhousing. Just wondering what ya guys think. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

January 10th, 2008, 08:54 AM	#2
JBIGBOOTSY Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 1,911	If you do any substantial amount of street driving, you'll wanna put it back on. __________________ Originally Posted by HELLRAZR94 what up pussy lets stop talking shit i would love for your pussy ass to come to cali so that i can show you what im about, when you get here let me know and i will come to you fag

January 10th, 2008, 02:14 PM	#3
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January 10th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#4
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 3,462	Road debris and flywheel/clutch do not mix well. __________________ 89 LX 515 hp 497 ftlbs 88 GT 11.4 @ 118

January 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM	#5
Speedstang302 MM Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 12.86@ 111mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 4,533	yeah you really are asking for it by leaving that plate off __________________ 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Stock w/ F303 cam and 1.6 Roller Rockers BBK Shortys, BBK o/r H, Flowmaster Super 44s "The LS1 was subject to a paternity test!!! The results are back....03 cobra you are the Father!!!!"

January 10th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#6
Darrell MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 6,579	I'd take it apart and put the block plate back in. __________________ Racing in memory of Dave Bandt 11/19/69 - 3/23/08 "he's traded his wheels for wings" Professor of Natural Aspiration Thanks to: Artie at Trick Flow, Dave at Team Z Motorsports, Brian at Total Engine Airflow and Harold at Furo Racecraft

January 10th, 2008, 06:22 PM	#7
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	Im gonna use washers for right now. And if everything is ok with the trans and the vibration is gone, then I will take it back down. The plate is really just a spacer for the starter and a debris shield. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

January 10th, 2008, 09:07 PM	#8
Speedstang302 MM Fanatic 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 12.86@ 111mph Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Massachusetss Posts: 4,533	yeah just a debris shield....tell me how thats works for ya...maybe i wont try it __________________ 1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Stock w/ F303 cam and 1.6 Roller Rockers BBK Shortys, BBK o/r H, Flowmaster Super 44s "The LS1 was subject to a paternity test!!! The results are back....03 cobra you are the Father!!!!"

January 10th, 2008, 11:10 PM	#10
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 3,462	lol, maybe you can just loosen all the bolts and put washers behind them all. Do it right or pay the price __________________ 89 LX 515 hp 497 ftlbs 88 GT 11.4 @ 118

January 10th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#11
Stangzilla Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 2,992	+ I think its a rule at the track that the flywheel cant be exposed.. I think.. __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”

January 10th, 2008, 11:31 PM	#12
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	I guess I should have never started this thread. I know for a fact its not gonna mess anything up. I have seen it done before with no problems at all. Do i wish I had it on , yeah. I also said I was gonna put it back, once I make sure this trans is good. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

January 11th, 2008, 10:59 PM	#16
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,847	the vibration wasnt the input shaft, you must have missed that thread. I just picked this transmission up and rebuilt it so I know all about the 15 bearings. Took the mic to, and did some measuring with another engine and transmission that I have and there is no way the input shaft is gonna touch the back of the crankshaft. __________________ http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/86839-wtt-90-lx-hatch-red-black-north-alabama.html#post1394801

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