Procharger

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 03:53 PM

So as many of you know, I bought a used procharger kit.

Everything looks good accept this is what the discharge piping looks like.

Yeah, that is oil and those are metal shavings. The guy I bought it from said it leaked no oil at all and had very few miles on it.

So, now I am going to take the impeller housing off to see what gives. If there is anything messed up in there, or any oil, I'm gonna shine the discharge pipe up real nice and then shove it straight up his candy ass.

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 04:04 PM

Man, thats really gonna suck if the impeller shelled out.. and thats why he sold it. Look at the plus side though, if the head unit is jacked up.. you still have the brackets and such.

jam77 · January 18th, 2008, 04:05 PM

that doesn't look good, I would beat his ass if the head unit is screwed up

jam77 · January 18th, 2008, 04:07 PM

I just noticed you are in bloomington ryan im in aurora. I used to go to the corvette show there all the time with my dad untill it got moved to springfield.

problemCOBRA94 · January 18th, 2008, 04:11 PM

Those things will shave off some metal when they are new and it might just be virgin oil. you know how a new motor burns oil until the ring seat. well same effect. If it is really new you should be fine and it would explain the shavings for sure. pulling off the impeller housing might be a real kick in the ...

However, if it is a worn out impeller or worn housing, kick his...

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by problemCOBRA94

Those things will shave off some metal when they are new and it might just be virgin oil. you know how a new motor burns oil until the ring seat. well same effect. If it is really new you should be fine and it would explain the shavings for sure. pulling off the impeller housing might be a real kick in the ...
However, if it is a worn out impeller or worn housing, kick his...

Prochargers dont consume oil, atleast they shouldnt. They run on their own self-contained oil supply. If its leaking oil to the point where its getting into the charge tube.. thats bad. Metal shavings? If theres any metal shavings ANYWHERE in the impeller, charge tube.. intake tract... ANYWHERE... thats BAD, end of story. Dude, read what your wrote... your saying its okay for the engine to inhale metal shavings.

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 04:57 PM

The pieces of aluminum are about 0.5 mm by 0.5 mm. Easily large enough to ruin a valve seat.

Shaving off metal when new?? That is a first for me and no supercharger should put oil into the discharge tube. The prochargers only hold 6 oz of oil, any oil going into the discharge tube means it should be running low on oil really quickly.

The impeller housings are pretty easy to take off on the prochargers, so that is what I am going to do...tonight most likely. If anything is damaged

someone is getting a back door delivery they weren't expecting.

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by jam77

I just noticed you are in bloomington ryan im in aurora. I used to go to the corvette show there all the time with my dad untill it got moved to springfield.

They have a car show here almost every month. In the summer it draws around 400 cars and entry is free. You should come check it out sometime.

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 05:01 PM

6oz of oil? Wow, ive always thought they were 8. I know thats not a big deal, but damn im slow!

Superchargers dont "shave" metal when they're new. If there shaving metal, there defective, and need to get sent back to the manufacture. Low oil could cause the shavings. Either way, if the shavings are in the charge tube... thats bad, and even if the supercharger was new when it happend.. im willing to bet that destroyed a motor, or caused some expensive damage.

Maybe that 2500 bucks wasnt a good deal after all...

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM

Well, if theres any impeller or housing damage it is going straight back and I'll cancel the charge through my CC company. End of story. I don't put up with shitty parts or the shitty people that sell them. The thing is, the guy has like a 25 trader feedback on corral with all outstanding reviews, so I figured this was in decent shape.

As far as destroying the motor, if it was a vortech, definitely, but since its a procharger, there wasn't anything past the intercooler, it trapped all the crap. But still, who would sell something like this, I mean if I was trying to fuck someone, I'd at least take the time to clean out the discharge tube...right? But to leave it all coated in oil and metal shavings...who would accept that?

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 05:24 PM

Ahh, well i didnt realize it didnt make it past the IC.

I agree man, if i was going to truly fuck someone, i would atleast cover my tracks. I would consult this guy asap, and see what he has to say. If hes shady.. well, he already comes off that way to me... i would cancel your CC and send it back to him with a COD.

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 05:24 PM

Well I just got off the phone with procharger, they told me a new head unit is $3000. New bearings and reseal with a new impeller and housing costs about $1500.

The tech guy I talked to said any metal shavings means the impeller hit the housing and that basically they need to be repaired after that. He also said that it sounded like the guy never changed the oil and had 10K miles or more on it. I'm pissed.

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 05:26 PM

Fuck man. Really sorry to hear you got raped. Take care of business.

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 05:28 PM

Any chance ATI will repair it for less than 1500? If so, you can get 1000 back from the jackass, and use that money to repair the supercharger... your cost is still 2500.. but atleast it'll be in working condition.

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 05:34 PM

I don't know, it's a shame because it was a hell of a deal with the 12-rib setup, AFM power pipe, polished renegade brackets, and polished head unit.

I guess I will pull the impeller housing before I do anything else. But seriously, who spends $5K on a procharger kit and then refuses to spend $10 to change the oil...did I mention the guy said it was on his wife's car?

Goblin · January 18th, 2008, 05:39 PM

Badass Procharger setup - $5,000

Replacement oil for regular service intervals - $10.00

Slapping your bitch ass for having no common sense - Priceless

SALIV8 · January 18th, 2008, 05:43 PM

if i knew u were looking i know a guy slling his f1r cheapass

ryans88gt · January 18th, 2008, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by SALIV8

if i knew u were looking i know a guy slling his f1r cheapass

F1R is a bit big for my 306, thanks though. I already have one cheapass kit to deal with.

Maybe I'll just change the oil and run it and see how it does....just need to find a blow through air filter...lol

SALIV8 · January 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM

blow through for the carb setup? i know of one also 4 sale. ill pm u with details. also- about the blower- i would get my money back and look for another. dont hope for the best, especially with a damaged unit, just my thoughts

JayVee · January 18th, 2008, 11:03 PM

OUCH! fkn looser! < seller... Hope allz well! G/L!

January 18th, 2008, 03:53 PM	#1
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 3,769	Procharger So as many of you know, I bought a used procharger kit. Everything looks good accept this is what the discharge piping looks like. Yeah, that is oil and those are metal shavings. The guy I bought it from said it leaked no oil at all and had very few miles on it. So, now I am going to take the impeller housing off to see what gives. If there is anything messed up in there, or any oil, I'm gonna shine the discharge pipe up real nice and then shove it straight up his candy ass. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 89 LX 515 hp 497 ftlbs 11.3 @ 125 mph 88 GT 11.4 @ 118

January 18th, 2008, 04:04 PM	#2
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast Secret In The Works Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Relocated Back To Tucson, Arizona Posts: 2,038	Man, thats really gonna suck if the impeller shelled out.. and thats why he sold it. Look at the plus side though, if the head unit is jacked up.. you still have the brackets and such. __________________ Definition of Fast? I'd say thats good enough. NMRA Outlaw 10.5 Season Opener 2008 Photo courtesy of - Yours Truly

January 18th, 2008, 04:05 PM	#3
jam77 Enthusiast 1987 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: IL Posts: 685	that doesn't look good, I would beat his ass if the head unit is screwed up __________________ 87 GT, typhoon upper and lower,70mm tb, 90mm maf, bbk shorties, bbk x-pipe, flowmaster cat back, 3:73 gear, pro 5.0 shifter, novi blower,afm power pipe, load IO, Trick Flow heads, Anderson B-31 cam, Anderson PMS, 42 lb injectors, t-rex fuel pump.

January 18th, 2008, 04:07 PM	#4
jam77 Enthusiast 1987 Mustang GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: IL Posts: 685	I just noticed you are in bloomington ryan im in aurora. I used to go to the corvette show there all the time with my dad untill it got moved to springfield. __________________ 87 GT, typhoon upper and lower,70mm tb, 90mm maf, bbk shorties, bbk x-pipe, flowmaster cat back, 3:73 gear, pro 5.0 shifter, novi blower,afm power pipe, load IO, Trick Flow heads, Anderson B-31 cam, Anderson PMS, 42 lb injectors, t-rex fuel pump.

January 18th, 2008, 04:57 PM	#7
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 3,769	The pieces of aluminum are about 0.5 mm by 0.5 mm. Easily large enough to ruin a valve seat. Shaving off metal when new?? That is a first for me and no supercharger should put oil into the discharge tube. The prochargers only hold 6 oz of oil, any oil going into the discharge tube means it should be running low on oil really quickly. The impeller housings are pretty easy to take off on the prochargers, so that is what I am going to do...tonight most likely. If anything is damaged someone is getting a back door delivery they weren't expecting. __________________ 89 LX 515 hp 497 ftlbs 11.3 @ 125 mph 88 GT 11.4 @ 118

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January 18th, 2008, 04:11 PM	#5
problemCOBRA94 Regular 1994 Mustang Cobra it runs now. Kinda... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rocklin, ca Posts: 71	Those things will shave off some metal when they are new and it might just be virgin oil. you know how a new motor burns oil until the ring seat. well same effect. If it is really new you should be fine and it would explain the shavings for sure. pulling off the impeller housing might be a real kick in the ... However, if it is a worn out impeller or worn housing, kick his...

January 18th, 2008, 05:01 PM	#9
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast Secret In The Works Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Relocated Back To Tucson, Arizona Posts: 2,038	6oz of oil? Wow, ive always thought they were 8. I know thats not a big deal, but damn im slow! Superchargers dont "shave" metal when they're new. If there shaving metal, there defective, and need to get sent back to the manufacture. Low oil could cause the shavings. Either way, if the shavings are in the charge tube... thats bad, and even if the supercharger was new when it happend.. im willing to bet that destroyed a motor, or caused some expensive damage. Maybe that 2500 bucks wasnt a good deal after all... __________________ Definition of Fast? I'd say thats good enough. NMRA Outlaw 10.5 Season Opener 2008 Photo courtesy of - Yours Truly

January 18th, 2008, 05:11 PM	#10
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 3,769	Well, if theres any impeller or housing damage it is going straight back and I'll cancel the charge through my CC company. End of story. I don't put up with shitty parts or the shitty people that sell them. The thing is, the guy has like a 25 trader feedback on corral with all outstanding reviews, so I figured this was in decent shape. As far as destroying the motor, if it was a vortech, definitely, but since its a procharger, there wasn't anything past the intercooler, it trapped all the crap. But still, who would sell something like this, I mean if I was trying to fuck someone, I'd at least take the time to clean out the discharge tube...right? But to leave it all coated in oil and metal shavings...who would accept that? __________________ 89 LX 515 hp 497 ftlbs 11.3 @ 125 mph 88 GT 11.4 @ 118

January 18th, 2008, 05:24 PM	#11
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast Secret In The Works Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Relocated Back To Tucson, Arizona Posts: 2,038	Ahh, well i didnt realize it didnt make it past the IC. I agree man, if i was going to truly fuck someone, i would atleast cover my tracks. I would consult this guy asap, and see what he has to say. If hes shady.. well, he already comes off that way to me... i would cancel your CC and send it back to him with a COD. __________________ Definition of Fast? I'd say thats good enough. NMRA Outlaw 10.5 Season Opener 2008 Photo courtesy of - Yours Truly

January 18th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#13
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast Secret In The Works Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Relocated Back To Tucson, Arizona Posts: 2,038	Fuck man. Really sorry to hear you got raped. Take care of business. __________________ Definition of Fast? I'd say thats good enough. NMRA Outlaw 10.5 Season Opener 2008 Photo courtesy of - Yours Truly

January 18th, 2008, 05:28 PM	#14
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast Secret In The Works Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Relocated Back To Tucson, Arizona Posts: 2,038	Any chance ATI will repair it for less than 1500? If so, you can get 1000 back from the jackass, and use that money to repair the supercharger... your cost is still 2500.. but atleast it'll be in working condition. __________________ Definition of Fast? I'd say thats good enough. NMRA Outlaw 10.5 Season Opener 2008 Photo courtesy of - Yours Truly

January 18th, 2008, 05:34 PM	#15
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 3,769	I don't know, it's a shame because it was a hell of a deal with the 12-rib setup, AFM power pipe, polished renegade brackets, and polished head unit. I guess I will pull the impeller housing before I do anything else. But seriously, who spends $5K on a procharger kit and then refuses to spend $10 to change the oil...did I mention the guy said it was on his wife's car? __________________ 89 LX 515 hp 497 ftlbs 11.3 @ 125 mph 88 GT 11.4 @ 118

January 18th, 2008, 05:39 PM	#16
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast Secret In The Works Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Relocated Back To Tucson, Arizona Posts: 2,038	Badass Procharger setup - $5,000 Replacement oil for regular service intervals - $10.00 Slapping your bitch ass for having no common sense - Priceless __________________ Definition of Fast? I'd say thats good enough. NMRA Outlaw 10.5 Season Opener 2008 Photo courtesy of - Yours Truly

January 18th, 2008, 05:43 PM	#17
SALIV8 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lookin' at you in my rearview Posts: 519	if i knew u were looking i know a guy slling his f1r cheapass

January 18th, 2008, 11:03 PM	#20
JayVee Regular 2003 COBRA 10th ANNI. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl. Posts: 171	OUCH! fkn looser! < seller... Hope allz well! G/L! __________________ FOR A WOUNDED MAN SHALL SAY TO HIS ASSAILANT, "IF I LIVE, I WILL KILL YOU... IF I DIE, YOU ARE FORGIVEN". SUCH IS THE RULE OF HONOR.

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January 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM	#19
SALIV8 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lookin' at you in my rearview Posts: 519	blow through for the carb setup? i know of one also 4 sale. ill pm u with details. also- about the blower- i would get my money back and look for another. dont hope for the best, especially with a damaged unit, just my thoughts Last edited by SALIV8 : January 18th, 2008 at 09:36 PM.