Twin Turbo or s-trim sc

imported_Gt_Jay · January 24th, 2008, 03:43 PM

but this is a dd still is it streetable.

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 03:46 PM

100% streetable. Get it tuned, and leave it alone. 500hp on pump gas would be as easy as pie.

imported_Gt_Jay · January 24th, 2008, 03:50 PM

how easy?

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 03:55 PM

Let me put it to you this way... Its so easy to make 500hp with a 351 and small frame turbo, that you'll probably make 550 accidently. I see it all the time with turbo guys. Its happend to me with my little turbo 4 cylinder. Was shooting for 400bhp.. made over 530bhp with the same expectations.

imported_Gt_Jay · January 24th, 2008, 04:01 PM

You have a 4 banger turbo,, how man

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 04:13 PM

I dont own a Ford 2.3. I was using my Dodge 2.2L turbo as an example to further back my response. With turbocharging.. you can lay safe bet that you'll make more power than you were expecting, thats all im saying. Its very easy to make alot of power with an efficient intercooled turbocharged system.

TurboLX · January 24th, 2008, 04:19 PM

i have a 4 banger turbo and a 351 turbo

baine21225 · January 24th, 2008, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by imported_Gt_Jay

hey guys i found a jdm twin turbo system, or should i just find a sc.

go single

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 06:18 PM

I never really understood twins for a street car. I understand that back in the day people swore by twins for boost response, but its not like that today. I dont understand why people get excited about twins anymore. For a street car, single is where its at.

TurboLX · January 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM

Word^

baine21225 · January 24th, 2008, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Goblin

I never really understood twins for a street car. I understand that back in the day people swore by twins for boost response, but its not like that today. I dont understand why people get excited about twins anymore. For a street car, single is where its at.

i didn't feel like typing all of that

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 06:49 PM

Lazy ass

baine21225 · January 24th, 2008, 06:55 PM

it's how i roll

ryans88gt · January 24th, 2008, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Goblin

I never really understood twins for a street car. I understand that back in the day people swore by twins for boost response, but its not like that today. I dont understand why people get excited about twins anymore. For a street car, single is where its at.

Twin T3s on a 5.0 start spooling at about 1500 and hit full boost by 2500.

With a single 67-70mm you are looking at full boost by 3500. That is one reason to go with twins.

Alternatively, two 70 mm turbos can produce a lot of power and can be easier to package that one huge turbo.

but single is definitely cheaper and easier.

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

Twin T3s on a 5.0 start spooling at about 1500 and hit full boost by 2500.

With a single 67-70mm you are looking at full boost by 3500. That is one reason to go with twins.

Alternatively, two 70 mm turbos can produce a lot of power and can be easier to package that one huge turbo.

but single is definitely cheaper and easier.

I will never argue that twins can make alot of power, and sometimes more than a nicely tuned single. I will say though, with twins comes two of everything. Extra plumbing, more exhaust fabbricating and over all more elaborate layout. Easier to package? Ahhhh, i think the single will win that... less is easier, and with twins theres more of everything. Like i said, i understand why twins USED to be the hot ticket, but you dont need twins now to get excellent boost response.

ryans88gt · January 24th, 2008, 07:38 PM

I agree that singles are way easier, but two twins can be easier to package...look at the incon kits of the past. Two turbos mounted between the headers and H-pipe...pretty nice, noway you could fit a big single in the same location.

Goblin · January 24th, 2008, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

I agree that singles are way easier, but two twins can be easier to package...look at the incon kits of the past. Two turbos mounted between the headers and H-pipe...pretty nice, noway you could fit a big single in the same location.

Incon? Oh, you mean the guys that are no longer in business? Ahh, i see. Before i get all worked up... what exactly do you mean by packaged? Because i could be taking this the wrong way... as i usually do these days. These days, the most successful systems for the street are singles. Cheap, easy to fab, and work without any major modification.. that would be a better package in my eyes, but we might have a different idea on what is a better package.

baine21225 · January 24th, 2008, 07:57 PM

my vote goes to single, less parts + more power = faster time and less problems

imported_Gt_Jay · January 26th, 2008, 02:15 AM

Agreed /\/\/\/\

e3sean · January 26th, 2008, 04:38 AM

i agree if u are starting from scratch going from a 4 to 8 then go stright to a 351 i was going to go with a 351 but i already had the 302...i know poor excuse but FUCK OFF ..lol

...

but i say ditch the turbos and just go with a 408 stroker with some afr 205's nice intake then ither beef up or get a new tranny... and some strong sub frame connectors

u will be over 500 hp N/A and STILL HAVE ROOM FOR A BOTTLE

or save up another 2k and make me jelous and do a turbo 408 like my next build is gonna be

January 24th, 2008, 03:43 PM	#21
imported_Gt_Jay Regular 1993 Mustang LX N/A Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Terrell, tx Posts: 209 iTrader: 0 reviews	but this is a dd still is it streetable. __________________ Fastfordsoftexascc.com

January 24th, 2008, 03:46 PM	#22
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	100% streetable. Get it tuned, and leave it alone. 500hp on pump gas would be as easy as pie. __________________

January 24th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#23
imported_Gt_Jay Regular 1993 Mustang LX N/A Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Terrell, tx Posts: 209 iTrader: 0 reviews	how easy? __________________ Fastfordsoftexascc.com

January 24th, 2008, 03:55 PM	#24
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Let me put it to you this way... Its so easy to make 500hp with a 351 and small frame turbo, that you'll probably make 550 accidently. I see it all the time with turbo guys. Its happend to me with my little turbo 4 cylinder. Was shooting for 400bhp.. made over 530bhp with the same expectations. __________________

January 24th, 2008, 04:01 PM	#25
imported_Gt_Jay Regular 1993 Mustang LX N/A Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Terrell, tx Posts: 209 iTrader: 0 reviews	You have a 4 banger turbo,, how man __________________ Fastfordsoftexascc.com

January 24th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#26
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	I dont own a Ford 2.3. I was using my Dodge 2.2L turbo as an example to further back my response. With turbocharging.. you can lay safe bet that you'll make more power than you were expecting, thats all im saying. Its very easy to make alot of power with an efficient intercooled turbocharged system. __________________

January 24th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#27
TurboLX I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 Mustang LX Turbo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY Posts: 8,792 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have a 4 banger turbo and a 351 turbo __________________ 1988 LX Coupe 2.5L, GT35R, 44mm WG, 32psi, C16.

January 24th, 2008, 06:18 PM	#29
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	I never really understood twins for a street car. I understand that back in the day people swore by twins for boost response, but its not like that today. I dont understand why people get excited about twins anymore. For a street car, single is where its at. __________________

January 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM	#30
TurboLX I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 Mustang LX Turbo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NY Posts: 8,792 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Word^ __________________ 1988 LX Coupe 2.5L, GT35R, 44mm WG, 32psi, C16.

January 24th, 2008, 06:49 PM	#32
Goblin Hardcore Enthusiast 88mm Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,111 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lazy ass __________________

January 24th, 2008, 06:55 PM	#33
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,338 iTrader: 1 reviews	it's how i roll

January 24th, 2008, 07:38 PM	#36
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,627 iTrader: 0 reviews	I agree that singles are way easier, but two twins can be easier to package...look at the incon kits of the past. Two turbos mounted between the headers and H-pipe...pretty nice, noway you could fit a big single in the same location. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

January 24th, 2008, 07:57 PM	#38
baine21225 MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 4,338 iTrader: 1 reviews	my vote goes to single, less parts + more power = faster time and less problems

January 26th, 2008, 02:15 AM	#39
imported_Gt_Jay Regular 1993 Mustang LX N/A Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Terrell, tx Posts: 209 iTrader: 0 reviews	Agreed /\/\/\/\ __________________ Fastfordsoftexascc.com

January 26th, 2008, 04:38 AM	#40
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,596 iTrader: 0 reviews	i agree if u are starting from scratch going from a 4 to 8 then go stright to a 351 i was going to go with a 351 but i already had the 302...i know poor excuse but FUCK OFF ..lol ... but i say ditch the turbos and just go with a 408 stroker with some afr 205's nice intake then ither beef up or get a new tranny... and some strong sub frame connectors u will be over 500 hp N/A and STILL HAVE ROOM FOR A BOTTLE or save up another 2k and make me jelous and do a turbo 408 like my next build is gonna be __________________

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