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post #1 of 26 Old September 27th, 2006, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
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Easy 400 HP from N/A SBF with Heads & Headers change!

I just wanted to share this interesting article with you guys.. a stock 302 motor with stock cam.. only by changing heads to a small AFR 165, using 1-3/4" long tube headers and 1.7 rockers.. we get a 405 hp / 380 lb.ft monster Ford engine! Of course, it is carburetted.. but it's just a baby Barry Grant Road Demon Jr. 625

Some of you may be familiar with this article but here it is anyway:

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This is another 400hp 302 project with complete parts list & build-up specs:

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Unbelievable!! And I thought you can only get that much from Chevy!
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thats at the motor tho.....kinda close to what i did with mine and mine is still a 302 just rebuilt with new rings and bearings..

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What's the mods (I can see AFR heads, TFS-TW intake, E cam, 3.73 gears) and what's you static compression ratio?
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dang, i think i am gonna get a 5.0 as my first car. they look better and better every day.

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5.0s own. dont let anyone tell u anything else

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5.0 is one of the cheapest, most dependable, and most effective cars to mod

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That is impressive for a stock cam but at the same time they are only making 1.34 hp per cubic inch so it is far from setting any records.

My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm....


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What's the mods (I can see AFR heads, TFS-TW intake, E cam, 3.73 gears) and what's you static compression ratio?
afr heads, track heat intake, e cam, 1.6 fms rr's, 70mm tb and egr, stock internals and just new rings and bearings, used ROL gaskets to bump the compression up just a tad. Not alot done. Im super happy with my combo, and everyone there was shocked at the numbers. He even shut down the dyno the rebooted everything and reinput all my info just to make sure the machine was working right.
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post #9 of 26 Old September 30th, 2006, 08:31 PM
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5.0 is one of the cheapest, most dependable, and most effective cars to mod
i dont know about the cheapest...you can build a small block chevy for like 25 bucks :wink

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5.0 is one of the cheapest, most dependable, and most effective cars to mod
i dont know about the cheapest...you can build a small block chevy for like 25 bucks :wink
25 bucks? Get outa here

besides, 5-0stank's statement is true.. it's "one of the" cheapest cars to mod.. compared to imports, sport compacts, Chryslers & Vettes..
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i dont know about the cheapest...you can build a small block chevy for like 25 bucks :wink
go to autozone and price a timing cover for a 350 then look up the price of a timing cover for a 5.0...tell me which is cheapest.....lol

chevy timing cover at autozone $25
summit brand 5.0 timing cover $125
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Depends on the brand of course..

I bought a brand new stock aluminum timing cover for my carburetted 302 Stang (comes with a hole for the mechanical fuel pump) for $44 from carpartswholesale.com but if i'd go for some high performance brand names, i'd definitly have to pay more..

but in general Chevy parts are cheaper in price than Ford.. right on.
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o yeah chevy is cheaper...they have dominated the aftermarket world forever and there are billions of parts for them. i didnt say the 5.0 was THE cheapest, but its cheaper than a 4.6 and tons of other cars out there.

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o yeah chevy is cheaper...they have dominated the aftermarket world forever and there are billions of parts for them. i didnt say the 5.0 was THE cheapest, but its cheaper than a 4.6 and tons of other cars out there.
Very true statement...

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^^^ I would have to say that no mods are cheap PERIOD lol


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NOT!!!!!

Sorry but I dont believe you got that much power from what you listed!! I have been working on Fox bodies for 15 years and I dont care what you say that dyno was F*%ked up!!!!
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is that rwhp or flywheel? Flywheel I can believe but not rwhp.
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I think it is possible...

My guess is the motor would not be streetable though...But I could be wrong...

It is prolly Fly-Wheel HP...

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Im pretty sure its flywheel also. Maybe AFR can get that much power but I would love to see an average joe throw them parts on and make that lol


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I would like to see if the car is streetable or if it is a dyno queen or not...

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