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Old October 5th, 2006, 02:37 PM   #1
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Total Fox Body Noob - Have Some Questions (Performance)


I currently own a 03 focus SVT which I absolutely love to death- but she was made for corners not for straight lines (stock quarter with my mods is 15.1!) I was considering putting a blower and clutch in her which would run about 5k but that would only put my numbers @ 235/200 at the wheels which isnt so hot.

I had my mind set on an 03-04 cobra but the fact that it would take 25k and a kick in the butt from insurance made me change my mind.

I have now decided that a 5.0 fox body is probably the answer! I can then keep my focus for a daily driver and get a 5.0 to play with, work on and take to the track.

I am looking to spend probably about 3-5k on one but dont know what to look for right now. The 89-92's have 225/300 at the crank right?

What is the difference between the LX and the GT? suspension?

What does the 5.0 run in the quarter stock? What is it capable of with basic bolt ons?

What is the best way to spend 1-2k on the 5.0? (I dont know if the one I would find would be stock or modified so it may have the basic bolt ons on it- not that I even know what those are for 5.0's!)

also, what are you guys paying for insurance on these things? I will be 21 in the spring so i know my age plays a big part, but im hoping insurance is relatively cheap seeing as how the value wouldnt be too much.

Sorry I spammed with questions - I have been searching but havnt gotten my exact questions answered even with all the reading (I plan to continue though as im learning a lot from the old threads).

Any help is greatly appreciated!!
 
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An LX is a GT without all the extra options, it's got the same suspension and motor as the regular GT. All the info you need Can be found here.

Bolt on's would be gears, exhaust, CAI, throttle body, shifter, underdrive pulleys, some fuel system upgrades like ignition wires, and so on and so forth.

Places like Auto Trader will have good prices on a fox body but it isn' going to be extrmely easy to find one that is a total Gem.

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Re: Total Fox Body Noob - Have Some Questions (Performance)


What is the difference between the LX and the GT? suspension?

<<<<<LX suspension is stiffer>>>>>

What does the 5.0 run in the quarter stock? What is it capable of with basic bolt ons?
<<<<problably what your focus runs>>>

What is the best way to spend 1-2k on the 5.0? (I dont know if the one I would find would be stock or modified so it may have the basic bolt ons on it- not that I even know what those are for 5.0's!)
>>>>>TURBOCHARGER!!!!!
also, what are you guys paying for insurance on these things? I will be 21 in the spring so i know my age plays a big part, but im hoping insurance is relatively cheap seeing as how the value wouldnt be too much.

>>>>>>>>>Say it is a 4 cylinder mustang and insurance gets cheap
 
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Re: Total Fox Body Noob - Have Some Questions (Performance)


Originally Posted by TurboLX
What is the difference between the LX and the GT? suspension?

<<<<<LX suspension is stiffer>>>>>

What does the 5.0 run in the quarter stock? What is it capable of with basic bolt ons?
<<<<problably what your focus runs>>>

What is the best way to spend 1-2k on the 5.0? (I dont know if the one I would find would be stock or modified so it may have the basic bolt ons on it- not that I even know what those are for 5.0's!)
>>>>>TURBOCHARGER!!!!!
also, what are you guys paying for insurance on these things? I will be 21 in the spring so i know my age plays a big part, but im hoping insurance is relatively cheap seeing as how the value wouldnt be too much.

>>>>>>>>>Say it is a 4 cylinder mustang and insurance gets cheap
How can LX be stiffer when it is the same at GT?

There is a little thing called a VIN number that lets the insurance company know exactly what engine is in your car, so unless you have a 4 cyl vin, you are screwed
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i am 19 and have a 90 lx 5.0 hatchback and i pay 800 every six months. Not too bad, considering my day pays it because i am in college. My 89 was originally a 4 cyl and the vin should still be a 4cyl, but it now has a 306 in it, this will be cheaper in insurance, but it is built alot better than my 90.
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Originally Posted by r00st
I currently own a 03 focus SVT which I absolutely love to death- but she was made for corners not for straight lines (stock quarter with my mods is 15.1!) I was considering putting a blower and clutch in her which would run about 5k but that would only put my numbers @ 235/200 at the wheels which isnt so hot.

I had my mind set on an 03-04 cobra but the fact that it would take 25k and a kick in the butt from insurance made me change my mind.

I have now decided that a 5.0 fox body is probably the answer! I can then keep my focus for a daily driver and get a 5.0 to play with, work on and take to the track.

I am looking to spend probably about 3-5k on one but dont know what to look for right now. The 89-92's have 225/300 at the crank right?

What is the difference between the LX and the GT? suspension?

What does the 5.0 run in the quarter stock? What is it capable of with basic bolt ons?

What is the best way to spend 1-2k on the 5.0? (I dont know if the one I would find would be stock or modified so it may have the basic bolt ons on it- not that I even know what those are for 5.0's!)

also, what are you guys paying for insurance on these things? I will be 21 in the spring so i know my age plays a big part, but im hoping insurance is relatively cheap seeing as how the value wouldnt be too much.

Sorry I spammed with questions - I have been searching but havnt gotten my exact questions answered even with all the reading (I plan to continue though as im learning a lot from the old threads).

Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Sounds like you are making a smart move by going with a 5.0. From what I have gathered in your post it seems like you want to make this is track car. How concerned are you about gas mileage? Do you plan on getting a AOD or a T-5 (5spd)?

Insurance really depends on where you live and what companies you go though, I would just start checking with companies in your area because they are different all over the place.

As for first mods, here is a really good article on the first mods to you Stang. http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/50must.htm

Also, this right here will get you familar with the 5.0 engine bay before you actually get one. This should help alot! http://www.mustangforums.com/m_563238/tm.htm

The difference between a GT and LX is basically what everyone posted above. There is no difference in power, motor, tranny, suspension, etc. The only difference is the GT comes standard with a different rear bumper, front bumper, side skirts and fog lights. The interior is also a little different since the GT seats are a little different. Most GT's are basically a fully loaded LX.

As for power, do you have 5K to spend in mods or 5K to spend all together? If you just have 2K to spend on the car than I would try and piece together a nice h/c/i setup. This should put you into the 12's for around 2,000 dollars. Alot of people really like the TrickFlow topend kit because it comes with heads, cam, intake, pushrods, gaskets, head bolts (I think), timing chain and valve covers for around 2,300 and should put you somewhere around 300rwhp. With minor supporting mods (throttle body, maf upgrade, exhaust, etc.) this should put you into mid 12's depending on how radical your suspension setup and how steep your gears are. If you are not too worried about gas mileage I would go with a set of 4.10's from ford racing wether its a 5spd or an auto. This will really get you off of the line quick. If you end up going with an automatic, the best advice I can give is to upgade to a street/strip valve body from a reputable company like performance automatic, lentech, etc. and upgrade your stall converter. The stall converter size will also depend on how streetable you want the car. A trickflow top end kid, suspension mods, 4.10's, 3200 stall and a VB will put you deep into the 12's! Also, if you go with a h/c/i combination I would recommend upgrading your injectors and your fuel pump. They say you dont have to but your DC will be very high on the 19lb injectors with 300rwhp. Good luck and give us some more information on your future plans so maybe we can be more specific! Good Luck!
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wow thanks for all the info!

Price is semi-negotiable (once I get the modding itch its hard to be stopped). I was thinking like 3-4k for the car and about 2k in mods. I have seen the top end kits on ebay - I assume this would be more reliable than a turbo setup? I love boost but i know its risky if it isnt setup correctly and I only have basic mechanical skills and dont want to have to pay someone to keep tuning it.

Fuel economy wouldnt be a major issue as long as it isnt totally horrendous (hopefully not below 10mpg). There are SO many 5.0's out there i just dont know where to start. I have looked locally but am not too satisfied with what I have found. There are tons on ebay as expected but of course most are a good distance away. I am pretty sure I want to stick with the t-5 as I am MTX obsessed- but one concern I have is the stock clutch- what can it handle? What are all the gearing options for the rear end on these? (what is stock?) is there a chart anywhere that shows what each gear puts the top speed at in each gear? What do the gears cost and how much to install? I want to do a lot of the work myself on this car as it wouldnt be my daily driver but I dont like the idea of not getting gears shimmed right and having to rip the rear open numerous times.

This is one of the probably 15 5.0's im watching on ebay right now but it intrigued me because it is 3k starting bid with no bids yet- already has a turbo (noticed it said no intercooler- would this be reliable or would there be heat build up and therefore make it a run->then shutdown and cool off car?) I really want a car that is streetable but decent on the track.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

I dont mind the idea of buying a car that already has mods done to it (can always find more things to add ) but I just want to make sure whatever I get runs well and is reliable.
 
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well i was told lx was stiffer because of adjustable gas shocks and the 4 cylinder trick does work because if the car was origanally a 4cyl and swapped it out to a v8 but the VIN still says its a 4 cyl but it is a v8 now see cause it worked with my 88 and my buddies 93' 392
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Old October 6th, 2006, 04:24 PM   #9
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and it really dosent need an intercooler if it is gonna be dailydriven but if your gonna beat on it you might be better off with an ic an also you will need a blow off valve if it has too much boost but if it is rated at 10lbs or less you problably wont need one but you will if you put an IC on it
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