WTF Have I DONE?

95project · March 13th, 2008, 11:59 PM

Ok. SO i got a great idea to put a kill switch on my 95 gt. I park it on the street sometimes and I thought if i put one in atleast noone would be able to steal it. So i searched for a wire to tap into. I pulled the seats and all interiors pieces for painting and decided to tap into one of the wires going into the top of the clutch pedal. Im 6'4 and getting my loong ass arms up in there was an f-ing task. but i did it .. It didnt work. Now i put it back like it was and it wont start...turnover...or anything... Any ideas what i may have done? And does anyone have an easier way to rig up a kill switch. I had one on a F150 when i was younger and i just think that they are overlooked and not used enough. Really easy way to almost garantee that no one will gank your ride.

Iwannagofast · March 14th, 2008, 04:06 AM

what did you try to wire it into the clutch safety switch or something....thats what i would have done if thats not what you did

Arctic Fox · March 14th, 2008, 05:49 AM

Is the clutch safety switch plugged correctly, or still in place? I mean does the clutch pedal still turn the switch. Only thing that came to my mind. Does all the electrics still work as they used to? Fuses?

I was thinking of installing a kill switch to fuel pump relay,
cause its easy accessible. Switch could be under the seat on left side.

Squints · March 14th, 2008, 06:13 AM

yeah. check the fuse first. it's really easy to pop a fuse when you have exposed wire in a tight spot.

wire up a relay that runs the starter wire under the dash. hook a toggle switch up to it and you'll be set. this is a good way cause you can hide the toggle switch anywhere you want.

Squints · March 14th, 2008, 06:24 AM

85 (orange in diagram) - chassis ground
86 (pink in diagram) - 12 volt source with a toggle switch in line

Iwannagofast · March 14th, 2008, 10:48 AM

i say the easiest way would be to just put an inline toggle on the clutch safetly switch ......that cant be much current flow through there so you should be fine without a relay or anything

hookedlx · March 14th, 2008, 11:20 AM

i rec. tap in the fuel relay is much safer than the clutch switch. they ways things are if some one figures out with the clutch thing any body can push started, but with no fuel they need a tow truck. my 2cnts.

ryans88gt · March 14th, 2008, 12:09 PM

there was a guy on here with a twin turbo mustang that had his car stolen when the motor wasn't even completely built. Don't think a kill switch will stop them. A quality car alarm and your local firearms dealer will be the best prevention method.

95project · March 14th, 2008, 12:17 PM

i searched the haynes manual and found that the wire from the ignition to the clutch safety switch is blu/white and pink/lt blue. So i cut one of those wires, and wired a toggle in between them. i didnt think i would need a relay or anything. It seems like even after i wired back to original, it was doing what i wanted it to do when i put the kill switch in. all the acc comes on, lights etc, but when you turn the key...nothing...i think when i get it back up, Best buy cant take it and put an alarm on it. F-IT......I would highly recommend anyone over the height of 4'1 not try and even access anything up by the top of the clutch...what a fucking pain...if i had tried to squeeze in there with the seats in, i would have had to call the firedept to drag my ass out. JAWS of life....SO much for easy security.

ryans88gt · March 14th, 2008, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by 95project

i searched the haynes manual and found that the wire from the ignition to the clutch safety switch is blu/white and pink/lt blue. So i cut one of those wires, and wired a toggle in between them. i didnt think i would need a relay or anything. It seems like even after i wired back to original, it was doing what i wanted it to do when i put the kill switch in. all the acc comes on, lights etc, but when you turn the key...nothing...i think when i get it back up, Best buy cant take it and put an alarm on it. F-IT......I would highly recommend anyone over the height of 4'1 not try and even access anything up by the top of the clutch...what a fucking pain...if i had tried to squeeze in there with the seats in, i would have had to call the firedept to drag my ass out. JAWS of life....SO much for easy security.

I don't know about a 95, but on fox bodies you can put the steering wheel all the way up (unless you have a crappy airbag non-tilt wheel) and the seat all the way back and lay it down. Then you lay on the seat with feet by the headrest and your head by the pedals. this is not comfortable for sure, but it is the easiest way to work on the under the dash stuff. It is also useful to have a friend there in case you get stuck...lol

95project · March 14th, 2008, 12:28 PM

well i know for a fact that women can fit in the floor board pretty well

Squints · March 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by 95project

......I would highly recommend anyone over the height of 4'1 not try and even access anything up by the top of the clutch...what a fucking pain...if i had tried to squeeze in there with the seats in, i would have had to call the firedept to drag my ass out. JAWS of life....SO much for easy security.

you're tellin me. i was a car audio installer for years. and i'm 6'6"

95project · March 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM

ummmmm.....Beer.
I guess i was an idiot last night when i tried to do this. i looked at it this morning and realized that i overtightened the wire nut on one of the wires and pulled the wire out of the connector. got it back in and it works like a charm with no relay...just a toggle. i mounted it under the dash...what an obvious place i know, but i figure if someone can break into my car, find the kill switch and hot wire it before i relaize it and have time t run outside with my 9mm, then they desreve to get away with it. they win.. anyway, this really wasnt that hard had i done it right in the first place.

mustangboy8909 · March 16th, 2008, 11:25 AM

you may have cut your netrual safty switch wire and that may be your problem i would follw the wire and see where it goes and maby replace that whole wire

March 13th, 2008, 11:59 PM	#1
95project Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 609 iTrader: 0 reviews	WTF Have I DONE? Ok. SO i got a great idea to put a kill switch on my 95 gt. I park it on the street sometimes and I thought if i put one in atleast noone would be able to steal it. So i searched for a wire to tap into. I pulled the seats and all interiors pieces for painting and decided to tap into one of the wires going into the top of the clutch pedal. Im 6'4 and getting my loong ass arms up in there was an f-ing task. but i did it .. It didnt work. Now i put it back like it was and it wont start...turnover...or anything... Any ideas what i may have done? And does anyone have an easier way to rig up a kill switch. I had one on a F150 when i was younger and i just think that they are overlooked and not used enough. Really easy way to almost garantee that no one will gank your ride. __________________ 95 GT- AFR 185's, Comp CAM, Trick FLow TH upper and lower, 30lb injec, 76MM C&L kit, Full MSD, BBK Pulleys, 3:73, BBK Long Tubes, X Pipe, Magnaflow Cat back, Cobra front control arms, MM CC plates LCA's and Panhard bar, tuned by Adam @ Pops Racing.

March 14th, 2008, 06:13 AM	#4
Squints 2008 Hammock Rodeo Champ 2003 F-150 Lariat FX4 Supercab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: VB,VA Posts: 1,237 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah. check the fuse first. it's really easy to pop a fuse when you have exposed wire in a tight spot. wire up a relay that runs the starter wire under the dash. hook a toggle switch up to it and you'll be set. this is a good way cause you can hide the toggle switch anywhere you want. __________________ i have no mustang. so don't listen to anything i say. Last edited by Squints; March 14th, 2008 at 06:19 AM.

March 14th, 2008, 06:24 AM	#5
Squints 2008 Hammock Rodeo Champ 2003 F-150 Lariat FX4 Supercab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: VB,VA Posts: 1,237 iTrader: 0 reviews	85 (orange in diagram) - chassis ground 86 (pink in diagram) - 12 volt source with a toggle switch in line __________________ i have no mustang. so don't listen to anything i say.

March 14th, 2008, 12:09 PM	#8
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,627 iTrader: 0 reviews	there was a guy on here with a twin turbo mustang that had his car stolen when the motor wasn't even completely built. Don't think a kill switch will stop them. A quality car alarm and your local firearms dealer will be the best prevention method. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

March 14th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#9
95project Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 609 iTrader: 0 reviews	i searched the haynes manual and found that the wire from the ignition to the clutch safety switch is blu/white and pink/lt blue. So i cut one of those wires, and wired a toggle in between them. i didnt think i would need a relay or anything. It seems like even after i wired back to original, it was doing what i wanted it to do when i put the kill switch in. all the acc comes on, lights etc, but when you turn the key...nothing...i think when i get it back up, Best buy cant take it and put an alarm on it. F-IT......I would highly recommend anyone over the height of 4'1 not try and even access anything up by the top of the clutch...what a fucking pain...if i had tried to squeeze in there with the seats in, i would have had to call the firedept to drag my ass out. JAWS of life....SO much for easy security. __________________ 95 GT- AFR 185's, Comp CAM, Trick FLow TH upper and lower, 30lb injec, 76MM C&L kit, Full MSD, BBK Pulleys, 3:73, BBK Long Tubes, X Pipe, Magnaflow Cat back, Cobra front control arms, MM CC plates LCA's and Panhard bar, tuned by Adam @ Pops Racing.

March 14th, 2008, 05:49 AM	#3
Arctic Fox Enthusiast 1989 GT KB 2.1L Flowzilla Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Old World Posts: 540 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is the clutch safety switch plugged correctly, or still in place? I mean does the clutch pedal still turn the switch. Only thing that came to my mind. Does all the electrics still work as they used to? Fuses? I was thinking of installing a kill switch to fuel pump relay, cause its easy accessible. Switch could be under the seat on left side.

March 14th, 2008, 11:20 AM	#7
hookedlx Newbie mustang lx 84 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: central florida Posts: 39 iTrader: 0 reviews	i rec. tap in the fuel relay is much safer than the clutch switch. they ways things are if some one figures out with the clutch thing any body can push started, but with no fuel they need a tow truck. my 2cnts.

March 14th, 2008, 12:28 PM	#11
95project Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 609 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i know for a fact that women can fit in the floor board pretty well __________________ 95 GT- AFR 185's, Comp CAM, Trick FLow TH upper and lower, 30lb injec, 76MM C&L kit, Full MSD, BBK Pulleys, 3:73, BBK Long Tubes, X Pipe, Magnaflow Cat back, Cobra front control arms, MM CC plates LCA's and Panhard bar, tuned by Adam @ Pops Racing.

March 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM	#13
95project Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 609 iTrader: 0 reviews	ummmmm.....Beer. I guess i was an idiot last night when i tried to do this. i looked at it this morning and realized that i overtightened the wire nut on one of the wires and pulled the wire out of the connector. got it back in and it works like a charm with no relay...just a toggle. i mounted it under the dash...what an obvious place i know, but i figure if someone can break into my car, find the kill switch and hot wire it before i relaize it and have time t run outside with my 9mm, then they desreve to get away with it. they win.. anyway, this really wasnt that hard had i done it right in the first place. __________________ 95 GT- AFR 185's, Comp CAM, Trick FLow TH upper and lower, 30lb injec, 76MM C&L kit, Full MSD, BBK Pulleys, 3:73, BBK Long Tubes, X Pipe, Magnaflow Cat back, Cobra front control arms, MM CC plates LCA's and Panhard bar, tuned by Adam @ Pops Racing.

March 16th, 2008, 11:25 AM	#14
mustangboy8909 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	you may have cut your netrual safty switch wire and that may be your problem i would follw the wire and see where it goes and maby replace that whole wire

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