429/460 or 351W?

ajb4507 · March 18th, 2008, 10:06 PM

I recently purchased a 1991 GT with a 6 point roll cage sub frame connectors and 3.73 gears. The car has no motor or trans in it which is good cause i wanted to do a swap any way. The car is going to be driven mostly on the street and taken to the strip occasionally for some fun. I want to use a 5 speed no mater which motor. I love the 429/460 and the fact that they have 370 horse and close to 500 ftlbs stock is awesome. The con with the 429/460 is weight, causing poorer handling, and poor gas mileage. The 351W would be more practical but would require lots of parts to get the power levels to just stock 429/460 form, but they'll get better gas mileage and will be lighter as well. In your opinions which should i go with the 429/460 or a 351W.

Also does anyone have mpg ratings for their 351 or 460?

Tony_90fox · March 18th, 2008, 10:07 PM

What is your budget? N/A or power adder? Want to do it all right the first time?

ajb4507 · March 18th, 2008, 10:10 PM

not to big of a budget, I'm a college student. Dont really want to go with a power adder and i want to put the motor in and leave it in till it has to come out for a rebuild or somthing

05stanggta · March 18th, 2008, 10:13 PM

i dont know how much they are. probably out of your range since your a college student, but roush offers some really nice 427's producing a lot of power.

MikeD05GT · March 18th, 2008, 10:26 PM

those roush engines are sick...i would love to drop one of them in a fox and make it a sleeper....

ajb4507 · March 18th, 2008, 11:32 PM

yea those engines do look preety awesome but most definitely out of my price range. looking to build my own motor to keep the cost down. which is why i want the 429 cause i could easily get 400+ horsepower with a simple cam, carb and intake upgrade. what kind of numbers would i get with a 351 with just that

Iwannagofast · March 19th, 2008, 01:22 AM

where did you see a stock 460 pushing 370 hp

ajb4507 · March 19th, 2008, 07:19 AM

Lincoln Continental Mark III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ford Classics - Engine Specs

its actually 365 for the mill 460's cj's were 370 and scj's were 375

Its also in lots of books on thunderbirds and lincolns

WAR-PARTY · March 19th, 2008, 07:31 AM

429 Ftw

MikeD05GT · March 19th, 2008, 09:26 AM

build up a 351...thats what i would do....my uncle has a 351c in this 70 cougar....my dad built the engine...endlebroke intake holley carb and crane cam with long tubes and flows...thing sounds wicked and probably has close to 400horse...

Iwannagofast · March 19th, 2008, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by ajb4507

Lincoln Continental Mark III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ford Classics - Engine Specs

its actually 365 for the mill 460's cj's were 370 and scj's were 375

Its also in lots of books on thunderbirds and lincolns

i thot you were referring to the common 460 in the trucks and stuff through the 90s.....i knew the cobra jets and super cobra jets would make some power but not be easy to find

nolife · March 19th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by WAR-PARTY

429 Ftw

429? The 460 is the same thing but with a longer stroke right. Just comparing those two, I'd take more cu inches myself.
I think that is why he asked 429/460 or a 351, not between the three.

Tony_90fox · March 19th, 2008, 11:42 AM

460 stroked to 545

ajb4507 · March 19th, 2008, 12:56 PM

yea i was reffering to the earlier 1968 to 1970 429's and 460's. The scj's and the cj's are hard to find but ford put many of the regular 460 and 429's in thunderbirds and lincolns and also galaxies.

Is there anyone that thinks i should go with a 351W?

MikeD05GT · March 19th, 2008, 01:02 PM

yes me....look at my earlier post....

zers · March 19th, 2008, 01:17 PM

I think the biggest issue you'll find is when/if something breaks, parts for the 351 are going to be cheaper, and easier to find. But the 460 would be dead ass sexy. stroked to 545 make like 800 horsepower naturally aspirated, that'd be hot.

Edit: How much clearance would a big block give you anyway? I thought the fox bodies could only hold small blocks.

MikeD05GT · March 19th, 2008, 01:21 PM

there is a kit in jegs for a 460 swap...comes with hooker headers, mounts, dipstick i think...some other shit to

MikeD05GT · March 19th, 2008, 01:23 PM

Hooker 6224K - Hooker/Ford Racing/Melling 460 Swap Kit for 1979-93 Mustang - JEGS

MikeD05GT · March 19th, 2008, 01:24 PM

thats a good freakin deal if you ask me...i still say 351w

ajb4507 · March 19th, 2008, 02:15 PM

jlaw98gt in your earlier post you said that "my uncle has a 351c in this 70 cougar." A Cleveland is very different from a Windsor. The W is a small block based engine were as a C is a part of the 351M 400 family. Im not sure on all the specs, but i definetly know that they arent the same. Also why would you chose a 351?

March 18th, 2008, 10:06 PM	#1
ajb4507 Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	429/460 or 351W? I recently purchased a 1991 GT with a 6 point roll cage sub frame connectors and 3.73 gears. The car has no motor or trans in it which is good cause i wanted to do a swap any way. The car is going to be driven mostly on the street and taken to the strip occasionally for some fun. I want to use a 5 speed no mater which motor. I love the 429/460 and the fact that they have 370 horse and close to 500 ftlbs stock is awesome. The con with the 429/460 is weight, causing poorer handling, and poor gas mileage. The 351W would be more practical but would require lots of parts to get the power levels to just stock 429/460 form, but they'll get better gas mileage and will be lighter as well. In your opinions which should i go with the 429/460 or a 351W. Also does anyone have mpg ratings for their 351 or 460? __________________ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a Chevy will never pass me

March 18th, 2008, 10:10 PM	#3
ajb4507 Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	not to big of a budget, I'm a college student. Dont really want to go with a power adder and i want to put the motor in and leave it in till it has to come out for a rebuild or somthing __________________ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a Chevy will never pass me

March 18th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#4
05stanggta Regular 2005 Mustang GT 13.76@101 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Twin Falls, ID Posts: 406 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont know how much they are. probably out of your range since your a college student, but roush offers some really nice 427's producing a lot of power. __________________ 343RWHP

March 18th, 2008, 11:32 PM	#6
ajb4507 Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea those engines do look preety awesome but most definitely out of my price range. looking to build my own motor to keep the cost down. which is why i want the 429 cause i could easily get 400+ horsepower with a simple cam, carb and intake upgrade. what kind of numbers would i get with a 351 with just that __________________ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a Chevy will never pass me

March 19th, 2008, 07:19 AM	#8
ajb4507 Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lincoln Continental Mark III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Ford Classics - Engine Specs its actually 365 for the mill 460's cj's were 370 and scj's were 375 Its also in lots of books on thunderbirds and lincolns __________________ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a Chevy will never pass me

March 18th, 2008, 10:07 PM	#2
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	What is your budget? N/A or power adder? Want to do it all right the first time?

March 18th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#5
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	those roush engines are sick...i would love to drop one of them in a fox and make it a sleeper....

March 19th, 2008, 07:31 AM	#9
WAR-PARTY Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 YUGO GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: GOAT LOCKER PENSACOLA FL Posts: 1,700 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	429 Ftw __________________ How I met my wife! Our first date...

March 19th, 2008, 09:26 AM	#10
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	build up a 351...thats what i would do....my uncle has a 351c in this 70 cougar....my dad built the engine...endlebroke intake holley carb and crane cam with long tubes and flows...thing sounds wicked and probably has close to 400horse...

March 19th, 2008, 11:42 AM	#13
Tony_90fox Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,803 iTrader: 0 reviews	460 stroked to 545

March 19th, 2008, 12:56 PM	#14
ajb4507 Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea i was reffering to the earlier 1968 to 1970 429's and 460's. The scj's and the cj's are hard to find but ford put many of the regular 460 and 429's in thunderbirds and lincolns and also galaxies. Is there anyone that thinks i should go with a 351W? __________________ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a Chevy will never pass me

March 19th, 2008, 01:02 PM	#15
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	yes me....look at my earlier post....

March 19th, 2008, 01:17 PM	#16
zers Regular 1965 Coupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 356 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think the biggest issue you'll find is when/if something breaks, parts for the 351 are going to be cheaper, and easier to find. But the 460 would be dead ass sexy. stroked to 545 make like 800 horsepower naturally aspirated, that'd be hot. Edit: How much clearance would a big block give you anyway? I thought the fox bodies could only hold small blocks. __________________

March 19th, 2008, 01:21 PM	#17
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	there is a kit in jegs for a 460 swap...comes with hooker headers, mounts, dipstick i think...some other shit to

March 19th, 2008, 01:23 PM	#18
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hooker 6224K - Hooker/Ford Racing/Melling 460 Swap Kit for 1979-93 Mustang - JEGS

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March 19th, 2008, 01:24 PM	#19
MikeD05GT MM Fanatic 2005 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cedar Grove NJ Posts: 3,204 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats a good freakin deal if you ask me...i still say 351w

March 19th, 2008, 02:15 PM	#20
ajb4507 Regular 1990 Mustang GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 iTrader: 0 reviews	jlaw98gt in your earlier post you said that "my uncle has a 351c in this 70 cougar." A Cleveland is very different from a Windsor. The W is a small block based engine were as a C is a part of the 351M 400 family. Im not sure on all the specs, but i definetly know that they arent the same. Also why would you chose a 351? __________________ Sticks and stones may break my bones, but a Chevy will never pass me

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