just a few ?'s

Mlx50man · March 19th, 2008, 09:53 PM

ok soo i have a 347 stoker in my garauge carburated ofcourse my question is, how can i get to start it on the stand?..I have the fuel pump and fuel cell all set up. soo that part of it is good to go. i also ihave the msd 7al2 box and pro power coil so ignition is takin care of, my only thing is how to get poer to the starter i have an old type starter that just takes a hot wire and nothing else, and i have an old type cylinoid, how do i have to wire the cylinoid? i know a hot wire goes on the right side and a wire goes from the left side of it to the starter, what goes on the middle 2 prongs??? im soo close to getting it to turn over i can feel it, soo help if you can thanks.

Mlx50man · March 19th, 2008, 10:45 PM

ok soo how does the cylinoid work???

Mlx50man · March 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM

so im guessing nobody knows much about the older cylinoid?

fogged306 · March 20th, 2008, 08:03 PM

Take a pic of the solenoid and post it

Mlx50man · March 20th, 2008, 08:37 PM

its the standard ford starter soleniod i dont have a pic of it.

fogged306 · March 20th, 2008, 08:44 PM

I haven't looked at mine in years so I'm just going on how most starters operate.. There should be one hot wire in and one hot wire out. Then a smaller post on the starter that is the switch side. IIRC, usually a starter gets its ground from the block itself so don't forget to ground the block with the same power source that you are attempting to start it with. ie. hook-up the negative of a battery to the block and then the hot to the "in" and the switch side (smaller post) of the starter and it should crank. and make sure you can remove the power from the switch side quickly.

All that being said, this probably isn't the safest thing to do.

Mlx50man · March 20th, 2008, 08:57 PM

lol, its on a special stand all bolted down, soo its safe, and thanks for the help.

blue88lx · March 20th, 2008, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mlx50man

lol, its on a special stand all bolted down, soo its safe, and thanks for the help.

Don't forget to torque the flywheel bolts. There was a video floating around somewhere of a moron running a sbc w/ no headers and the flywheel took a trip into the side of his house. Can't find it on youtube.

Mlx50man · March 20th, 2008, 09:57 PM

haha ya i think ive see it, but ya ive taken all the precations, just cant get the dang thing to turn over..

blue88lx · March 20th, 2008, 10:03 PM

Starter relay or other problems?

Mlx50man · March 20th, 2008, 10:11 PM

i think it has to do with the wiring of the starter soleniod wireing.

blue88lx · March 20th, 2008, 10:26 PM

Alot of ppl get the relay and the solenoid confused. The relay is on the fenderwell(usually), and the solenoid is on the starter assy. There are plenty of wiring diagrams around. I'm kinda buzzed, but i'll keep looking for something to help ya

March 19th, 2008, 09:53 PM	#1
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	just a few ?'s ok soo i have a 347 stoker in my garauge carburated ofcourse my question is, how can i get to start it on the stand?..I have the fuel pump and fuel cell all set up. soo that part of it is good to go. i also ihave the msd 7al2 box and pro power coil so ignition is takin care of, my only thing is how to get poer to the starter i have an old type starter that just takes a hot wire and nothing else, and i have an old type cylinoid, how do i have to wire the cylinoid? i know a hot wire goes on the right side and a wire goes from the left side of it to the starter, what goes on the middle 2 prongs??? im soo close to getting it to turn over i can feel it, soo help if you can thanks.

March 19th, 2008, 10:45 PM	#2
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok soo how does the cylinoid work???

March 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM	#3
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	so im guessing nobody knows much about the older cylinoid?

March 20th, 2008, 08:03 PM	#4
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	Take a pic of the solenoid and post it

March 20th, 2008, 08:37 PM	#5
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	its the standard ford starter soleniod i dont have a pic of it.

March 20th, 2008, 08:44 PM	#6
fogged306 MM Fanatic 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 4,875 iTrader: 2 reviews	I haven't looked at mine in years so I'm just going on how most starters operate.. There should be one hot wire in and one hot wire out. Then a smaller post on the starter that is the switch side. IIRC, usually a starter gets its ground from the block itself so don't forget to ground the block with the same power source that you are attempting to start it with. ie. hook-up the negative of a battery to the block and then the hot to the "in" and the switch side (smaller post) of the starter and it should crank. and make sure you can remove the power from the switch side quickly. All that being said, this probably isn't the safest thing to do.

March 20th, 2008, 08:57 PM	#7
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol, its on a special stand all bolted down, soo its safe, and thanks for the help.

March 20th, 2008, 09:57 PM	#9
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	haha ya i think ive see it, but ya ive taken all the precations, just cant get the dang thing to turn over..

March 20th, 2008, 10:03 PM	#10
blue88lx Regular 88 lx hatch too slow Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	Starter relay or other problems?

March 20th, 2008, 10:11 PM	#11
Mlx50man Enthusiast 90 Mustang lx Boss 347 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lakeland, FL Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think it has to do with the wiring of the starter soleniod wireing.

March 20th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#12
blue88lx Regular 88 lx hatch too slow Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 51 iTrader: 0 reviews	Alot of ppl get the relay and the solenoid confused. The relay is on the fenderwell(usually), and the solenoid is on the starter assy. There are plenty of wiring diagrams around. I'm kinda buzzed, but i'll keep looking for something to help ya

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