4 Lug vs. 5 Lug Wheels

rocket · October 9th, 2006, 10:23 PM

I was wondering if there is a significant differance or reason why some people do a 5 lug conversion for wheels. Is it just so they can get a specific type of wheel on their car, or does it serve a different purpose?

How hard or expensive is it to do a 4 to 5 lug conversion?

Darrell · October 9th, 2006, 10:27 PM

Wider selection of wheels is the major reason. Strength is another reason for cars that make alot of horsepower. It is fairly easy to convert and will cost you about $300 to $500 depending on what route you go. The easiest way is to get 2 driver side 83-92 ranger axles and drums (or 2 passenger side 86-97 Aerostar axles and drums) from a junk yard and a new set of Lincoln Mark VII rotors from and auto parts store.

mdvaldosta · October 9th, 2006, 10:59 PM

You know, it really sucks when Darrel answers a question because he never leaves anything left for the rest of us... heh.

Darrell · October 10th, 2006, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by mdvaldosta

You know, it really sucks when Darrel answers a question because he never leaves anything left for the rest of us... heh.

Sorry Joe, I'll be quiet now.

88BlueGT · October 10th, 2006, 11:21 AM

+1 Thats definetly the cheapest way to go. Alot of companies also sell conversion kits. I was just looking at a conversion kit last night for 299.99. That was just for the rear though. So, if you go all brand new I would guess about $500-600 or half of that from a junkyard.

streetrodder15 · October 11th, 2006, 10:30 AM

I am working on a 65 Mustang and was converting my 4 lug pattern to 5. I already got the rear axle out of a 75 maverick for $30, but I cannot seem to find a car with a similar front end. Any one know of any cars that will work with this mustang. It can be drumb or disk brakes.

billb303 · October 12th, 2006, 09:51 PM

How much power can a 4 lug easily handle under hard launch conditions?

Darrell · October 13th, 2006, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by streetrodder15

I am working on a 65 Mustang and was converting my 4 lug pattern to 5. I already got the rear axle out of a 75 maverick for $30, but I cannot seem to find a car with a similar front end. Any one know of any cars that will work with this mustang. It can be drumb or disk brakes.

Find a 64-66 (possibly up to 68) Mustang with a V8 and take the entire spindle and brake assembly. There are alot of them in junk yards but you have to do a little work and look for them.

Darrell · October 13th, 2006, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by billb303

How much power can a 4 lug easily handle under hard launch conditions?

I know guys that are making 600hp at the wheels and still running 4 lug axles but they have bigger balls than me. I think the only reason they are doing it is because they have good Strange axles and wheels and don't want to have to buy new wheels and axles. The stock 28 spline axles will break before the 4 lug wheel studs will.

Tony_90fox · October 13th, 2006, 01:54 PM

i have never broke an axle in a car, but i have been on a tractor when one broke. If the ride in a car is like anything that i experienced on that tractor, i never want to do that again. I was like 12 or 13 at the time and it threw me for one helluva ride. I am no where near the power to break an axle but i think that when i am, i will definately upgrade.

stang fanatic · October 13th, 2006, 11:56 PM

thats a classic, why start changing everything????
I have always HEARD that 600 was considered max hp to run on 4 lug with long studs...anything + should be converted

Stangzilla · October 16th, 2006, 10:35 PM

if you are doing the conversion strictly for the wheel choices the ranger axle route is the way to go. But... If you are doing it for strength reasons because your pony is makin lots a power 350RWHP and up you will need after market axles anyway.

rednsilver91 · October 17th, 2006, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by streetrodder15

I am working on a 65 Mustang and was converting my 4 lug pattern to 5. I already got the rear axle out of a 75 maverick for $30, but I cannot seem to find a car with a similar front end. Any one know of any cars that will work with this mustang. It can be drumb or disk brakes.

what do you have to do to convert 4 lug to 5? my 5.0 is 4 lug and its really hard to find anything for them cuz everything is 5 lug!!

Tony_90fox · October 17th, 2006, 02:50 AM

they do make the cobra r rims in 4 lug, and alot of others actually. there isnt as wide of a selection but plenty for me.

October 9th, 2006, 10:23 PM	#1
rocket Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ankeny, IA Posts: 24	4 Lug vs. 5 Lug Wheels I was wondering if there is a significant differance or reason why some people do a 5 lug conversion for wheels. Is it just so they can get a specific type of wheel on their car, or does it serve a different purpose? How hard or expensive is it to do a 4 to 5 lug conversion?

October 9th, 2006, 10:27 PM	#2
Darrell MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 6,034	Wider selection of wheels is the major reason. Strength is another reason for cars that make alot of horsepower. It is fairly easy to convert and will cost you about $300 to $500 depending on what route you go. The easiest way is to get 2 driver side 83-92 ranger axles and drums (or 2 passenger side 86-97 Aerostar axles and drums) from a junk yard and a new set of Lincoln Mark VII rotors from and auto parts store. __________________ Racing in memory of Dave Bandt 11/19/69 - 3/23/08 "he's traded his wheels for wings" Professor of Natural Aspiration Thanks to: Artie at Trick Flow and Harold at Furo Racecraft http://www.myspace.com/odarrellrules Videos of junk

October 10th, 2006, 11:21 AM	#5
88BlueGT Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hamilton, NJ Posts: 198	+1 Thats definetly the cheapest way to go. Alot of companies also sell conversion kits. I was just looking at a conversion kit last night for 299.99. That was just for the rear though. So, if you go all brand new I would guess about $500-600 or half of that from a junkyard. __________________ http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...8bluegt6wk.jpg 93 GT - Full Exhaust, 3.90's, Front Tubular Suspension, etc. 88 GT "Big Blue" - Body work & primer!

October 13th, 2006, 01:54 PM	#10
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,445	i have never broke an axle in a car, but i have been on a tractor when one broke. If the ride in a car is like anything that i experienced on that tractor, i never want to do that again. I was like 12 or 13 at the time and it threw me for one helluva ride. I am no where near the power to break an axle but i think that when i am, i will definately upgrade. __________________ Suck on it Trebek. Suck it long, suck it hard.

October 13th, 2006, 11:56 PM	#11
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 853	thats a classic, why start changing everything???? I have always HEARD that 600 was considered max hp to run on 4 lug with long studs...anything + should be converted __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

October 9th, 2006, 10:59 PM	#3
mdvaldosta Maintenance Man 2002 Mustang GT 11.47@120.58 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 3,929	You know, it really sucks when Darrel answers a question because he never leaves anything left for the rest of us... heh.

October 11th, 2006, 10:30 AM	#6
streetrodder15 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6	I am working on a 65 Mustang and was converting my 4 lug pattern to 5. I already got the rear axle out of a 75 maverick for $30, but I cannot seem to find a car with a similar front end. Any one know of any cars that will work with this mustang. It can be drumb or disk brakes.

October 12th, 2006, 09:51 PM	#7
billb303 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 27	How much power can a 4 lug easily handle under hard launch conditions?

October 16th, 2006, 10:35 PM	#12
Stangzilla Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 2,984	5 lug if you are doing the conversion strictly for the wheel choices the ranger axle route is the way to go. But... If you are doing it for strength reasons because your pony is makin lots a power 350RWHP and up you will need after market axles anyway.

October 17th, 2006, 02:50 AM	#14
Tony_90fox MM Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 3,445	they do make the cobra r rims in 4 lug, and alot of others actually. there isnt as wide of a selection but plenty for me. __________________ Suck on it Trebek. Suck it long, suck it hard.

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