One Wheel Peel?

jrh_1980 · April 13th, 2008, 10:58 PM

I have 4.10 gears in the rear and since i got my 89 lx running good i have noticed that in first and second it will fry both tires but when i hit 3rd it goes into a one wheel peel and if i keep in the gas it gets squirrely and the other tire will take over. damnedest thing i ever saw. any ideas. perhaps a trac loc rebuild???? how long would that take to do.

Squints · April 13th, 2008, 11:57 PM

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ryans88gt · April 14th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by jrh_1980

I have 4.10 gears in the rear and since i got my 89 lx running good i have noticed that in first and second it will fry both tires but when i hit 3rd it goes into a one wheel peel and if i keep in the gas it gets squirrely and the other tire will take over. damnedest thing i ever saw. any ideas. perhaps a trac loc rebuild???? how long would that take to do.

If you want to drive the car to Bloomington, I can rebuild it for $200, parts included.

Iwannagofast · April 14th, 2008, 12:21 AM

sounds like its not too bad but probly on the verge of needing a rebuild

jrh_1980 · April 14th, 2008, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

If you want to drive the car to Bloomington, I can rebuild it for $200, parts included.

I may take you up on that. I got 3 more weeks till this semester ends then i will have a lot more time. I have been wanting to check out your ride too!! I may end up with a procharger after i see yours. it's just money right? I have a money tree growing out of my ass so im good... at least that's what everyone seems to think.... haha.

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 09:05 AM

I have a spare t lock that needs a rebuild ( with a $50.00 kit you could do it yourself)

just pay the shipping and it's yours for free.

jrh_1980 · April 14th, 2008, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

I have a spare t lock that needs a rebuild ( with a $50.00 kit you could do it yourself)

just pay the shipping and it's yours for free.

do you have a paypal account?? if so send me your info and the cost to ship to 61455 zip. that would be sweet. where can i get a good rebuild kit?

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 09:22 AM

this one is a little on the expensive side because it's carbon but I am sure you can fine them cheaper for the stock rebuild kits..
TRACTION-LOK REBUILD KIT, 8.8" W/ CARBON DISCS MISCFORD

yes I have paypal.. call it $20.00 shipped

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 09:31 AM

I send you a statement.

ryans88gt · April 14th, 2008, 11:32 AM

Why are you trying to sell him stuff he doesn't need? He only needs the rebuild kit, not a new carrier...

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 11:38 AM

I figured he can rebuild this one AND be able to drive his car at the same time.. it's worth it for $20.00 + he gets some skill out of it.
maybe he can sent it to you to get rebuilt and still have his car on the road while you work on it.

ryans88gt · April 14th, 2008, 11:42 AM

It is A LOT more work to replace the carrier than it is to rebuild the trac-lok in the car.

It only takes me about 2 hours to rebuild one in the car. It is at least a whole day ordeal to replace the carrier. You have to check and adjust bearing preload and backlash, recheck the gear mesh. It's no fun.

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 11:45 AM

my shop did it for me in about 2 hours

then again they had tools to work with.

they rebuilt a tlock (that I handed them) and put a set of 4:10's in there.
whatever.. don't matter much to me either way.. at least he can resell the t lock if he wants to.. it's only $20.00 and he already payed me.

ryans88gt · April 14th, 2008, 11:51 AM

They did a complete gear swap in 2 hours? How many people were working on it?

Anyway, my point was, he doesn't need the carrier, it will take more time to put another carrier in the car than it will to just rebuild the one in the car...but whatever...

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 12:18 PM

2 people.. it was a very good shop specifically for mustangs
MySpace.com - DPR - 101 - Male - US - www.myspace.com/dprshop

I only made $1.90 which I probably wasted in gas by the time I payed for shipping.
maybe he can upgrade the one I sent him to 31 spline and sell it for $250.00 or so..

I wasn't trying to jack you of a sale man. merely trying to get some crap out of my garage and help him out a bit.
I did get a cup of coffee on the way home though which ran me $2.02 so I think a cup of coffee for an 8.8 t lock is a half way decent deal.

91cobra5.0 · April 14th, 2008, 01:56 PM

if he just rebuilds the carrier outside the car, then pulls the cover off the diff, saves the shims and remembers where they went, all hes gotta do is bolt the gears onto the carrier and set it back into the rear end with the same shims and cal it a day.....

he shouldnt have to touch the pinion or the preoload there and with the same shims he will have the same preload on the ring....

ryans88gt · April 14th, 2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by 91cobra5.0

if he just rebuilds the carrier outside the car, then pulls the cover off the diff, saves the shims and remembers where they went, all hes gotta do is bolt the gears onto the carrier and set it back into the rear end with the same shims and cal it a day.....

he shouldnt have to touch the pinion or the preoload there and with the same shims he will have the same preload on the ring....

You're assuming there is no production variances in the carrier. That's a bad assumption. If there was no variance in production there would be no need for shims at all. Besides, anytime you take the carrier out, even if it is the same carrier you have to check backlash, preload, runout, and gear mesh. It is by far easier to rebuild the carrier while it is in the rear end.

Also, swapping the ring gear from one carrier to another may change runout and backlash, and also takes some time since the ring gear is a friction fit, you sometimes need a puller to get the old one off, then put it in the oven for an hour to get it on to the new one...

Anyway, I wasn't looking to make any money, just trying to be helpful. It costs about $100 in parts, and getting covered in gear oil isn't my idea of fun.

HMUSN · April 14th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by ryans88gt

Anyway, I wasn't looking to make any money, just trying to be helpful..

same here .

at least I got a cup of coffee out of it

jrh_1980 · April 15th, 2008, 12:42 AM

wow that sure escilated quick. it doesn't matter anyway. I may end up selling it on ebay. hell i don't know. I still wanna check out your stang ryan so i will probably have you do it as long as i can help. Trying to learn here. I will even buy the beer!!!!!

91cobra5.0 · April 15th, 2008, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by jrh_1980

wow that sure escilated quick. it doesn't matter anyway. I may end up selling it on ebay. hell i don't know. I still wanna check out your stang ryan so i will probably have you do it as long as i can help. Trying to learn here. I will even buy the beer!!!!!

sounds like a date

April 13th, 2008, 10:58 PM	#1
jrh_1980 Regular 89 Mustang LX 7.90@90mph 8th Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Macomb, Illinois Posts: 151 iTrader: 1 reviews	One Wheel Peel? I have 4.10 gears in the rear and since i got my 89 lx running good i have noticed that in first and second it will fry both tires but when i hit 3rd it goes into a one wheel peel and if i keep in the gas it gets squirrely and the other tire will take over. damnedest thing i ever saw. any ideas. perhaps a trac loc rebuild???? how long would that take to do.

April 13th, 2008, 11:57 PM	#2
Squints 2008 Hammock Rodeo Champ 2003 F-150 Lariat FX4 Supercab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: VB,VA Posts: 1,236 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trac-Lok Rebuild Brought to you by ryans88GT __________________ i have no mustang. so don't listen to anything i say.

April 14th, 2008, 09:05 AM	#6
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	I have a spare t lock that needs a rebuild ( with a $50.00 kit you could do it yourself) just pay the shipping and it's yours for free. __________________

April 14th, 2008, 09:22 AM	#8
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	this one is a little on the expensive side because it's carbon but I am sure you can fine them cheaper for the stock rebuild kits.. TRACTION-LOK REBUILD KIT, 8.8" W/ CARBON DISCS MISCFORD yes I have paypal.. call it $20.00 shipped __________________

April 14th, 2008, 09:31 AM	#9
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	I send you a statement. __________________

April 14th, 2008, 11:32 AM	#10
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	Why are you trying to sell him stuff he doesn't need? He only needs the rebuild kit, not a new carrier... __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

April 14th, 2008, 11:38 AM	#11
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	I figured he can rebuild this one AND be able to drive his car at the same time.. it's worth it for $20.00 + he gets some skill out of it. maybe he can sent it to you to get rebuilt and still have his car on the road while you work on it. __________________

April 14th, 2008, 11:42 AM	#12
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	It is A LOT more work to replace the carrier than it is to rebuild the trac-lok in the car. It only takes me about 2 hours to rebuild one in the car. It is at least a whole day ordeal to replace the carrier. You have to check and adjust bearing preload and backlash, recheck the gear mesh. It's no fun. __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

April 14th, 2008, 11:45 AM	#13
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	my shop did it for me in about 2 hours then again they had tools to work with. they rebuilt a tlock (that I handed them) and put a set of 4:10's in there. whatever.. don't matter much to me either way.. at least he can resell the t lock if he wants to.. it's only $20.00 and he already payed me. __________________

April 14th, 2008, 11:51 AM	#14
ryans88gt MM Fanatic Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 4,737 iTrader: 0 reviews	They did a complete gear swap in 2 hours? How many people were working on it? Anyway, my point was, he doesn't need the carrier, it will take more time to put another carrier in the car than it will to just rebuild the one in the car...but whatever... __________________ 88 GT CHI headed 351w 10.8 @ 125 - still figuring it out. 03 Cobra 2.3 whipple 10.7 @ 129 - sold it 04 Mach 1 12.7 @ 109 mostly stock - sold it 89 LX procharged 302 515 hp 497 ftlbs 10.7 @130 mph - sold it

April 14th, 2008, 12:18 PM	#15
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	2 people.. it was a very good shop specifically for mustangs MySpace.com - DPR - 101 - Male - US - www.myspace.com/dprshop I only made $1.90 which I probably wasted in gas by the time I payed for shipping. maybe he can upgrade the one I sent him to 31 spline and sell it for $250.00 or so.. I wasn't trying to jack you of a sale man. merely trying to get some crap out of my garage and help him out a bit. I did get a cup of coffee on the way home though which ran me $2.02 so I think a cup of coffee for an 8.8 t lock is a half way decent deal. __________________

April 14th, 2008, 01:56 PM	#16
91cobra5.0 Hardcore Enthusiast 98 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 2,057 iTrader: 0 reviews	if he just rebuilds the carrier outside the car, then pulls the cover off the diff, saves the shims and remembers where they went, all hes gotta do is bolt the gears onto the carrier and set it back into the rear end with the same shims and cal it a day..... he shouldnt have to touch the pinion or the preoload there and with the same shims he will have the same preload on the ring.... Last edited by 91cobra5.0; April 14th, 2008 at 01:59 PM.

April 15th, 2008, 12:42 AM	#19
jrh_1980 Regular 89 Mustang LX 7.90@90mph 8th Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Macomb, Illinois Posts: 151 iTrader: 1 reviews	wow that sure escilated quick. it doesn't matter anyway. I may end up selling it on ebay. hell i don't know. I still wanna check out your stang ryan so i will probably have you do it as long as i can help. Trying to learn here. I will even buy the beer!!!!!

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