[The Novice]

Hey guys i know the 93 Mustang's and up dont have superchargers. But i was just wondering, is it a bad idea to put a supercharger on a non-forgered interal mustang? Or will it be ok? My buddy has one (93) and another buddy has a (95) Both GT's And I was just thinking is it a really bad idea to get a supercharger on those cars? Or will they be ok even with out the forged internals?

[Goblin]

Keep it moderate, and you'll be fine. Perform a leak down test first, and check compression. If everything checks out okay.. boost those bad boys!

[jam77]

yeah like goblin said keep the boost to a moderate level and have a good fuel supply on tap and a good tune and you will be fine . I have had no issues with mine what so ever and im at about 8 psi

[nba1341]

forged internals won't do you any good on a stock block because its going to crack at right above 500hp (wheels) anyways

[The Novice]

Ok well i too was thinking about superchargers since they have been talking about them non stop and i have another questions.
I was looking at the (1)= Vortech 5-6 PSI SC - $2,123.95 (Doesnt have Bypass Valve, how much do they cost???)
Vortech 4FA218-010 - Vortech Centrifugal Supercharger Kits - summitracing.com
AND
(2)= Vortech 8-10 PSI SC - $2,971.95
Vortech 4FA218-040SQ - Vortech Centrifugal Supercharger Kits - summitracing.com
BUT
What i was thinking was saving money getting the 5-6 PSI Supercharger (buying a Bypass valve- how much are they anyone know??) And adding this methonal Kit (LINK BELOW) How much HP would i get out of it then and would it be a little bit of a money saver then, but get HP (somewhat) Close to the 8-10 PSI Supercharger?
AEM 30-3000 - AEM Water/Methanol Injection Kit - JEGS

So what do you guys think? Let me know if i can get somewhat close to HP range with out having to spend the extra money right now i would be happy. But i guess it depends on the price of the Bypass valve which im sure i need right? (Or dont i, anyone know?) And would this be worth it?/How much HP would i get with the 5-6PSI S/C and the Methonal Kit? Or do these methonal kits suck? Thanks guys alot, sorry for the long post, just really wondering what would/could work, so please help me out here guys! Thanks alot!- The Novice.

PS- This is a stock block, thats why i dont want to much HP, but i dunno how much HP the combo's put out + the menthonal Kit.

[nba1341]

you don't have a gargage so out of curiosity what do you have done to your 5.0 right now as it stands? how many miles and what year? 93 or 95

[The Novice]

Originally Posted by nba1341 you don't have a gargage so out of curiosity what do you have done to your 5.0 right now as it stands? how many miles and what year? 93 or 95

Actually Mine is an 87 T-Top GT hatchback 5-speed. For the last question i was woundering for myself ( b/c my friends keep talking about S/C's got me interested.
My car has the following ( from what i can think of late at night, off the top of my head )

1- Tremec Tranny and beefy drive shaft
2- 8.8 rear end ( stronger than stock ) with a 3.73
3- King Cobra Clutch Kit
4- hurst shifter
5- Disc brakes
6- 5 lug conversion
7- Rear upper and lower controll arms
8- BBK In tank Fuel Pump
9- Trick Flow upper and lower Intake
10- MAF conversion
11- TB
12-Cold air intake
13-BBK Adjustable Fuel Regulators
14-BBK Exhaust
15-MSD Ignition 6AL
16-Roush heads
17-(2) 10Inch rad. Fans
18-BBK Lowering springs
19-140 Gauge Cluster with white face
20- Shift Light
21- Water and Oil Temp Gauges.
22- Subframe connectors

The Engine rebuild has about 30,000 Miles on it ( from the guy before me )

Thats about all i can think of right now and an aftermarket cam, dont remember what though -_- sorry tired its 4:30 AM here. But i appreciate the help! Any insight would be great thanks again guys! The Novice.

[Goblin]

Procharger P1SC, 12 rib arrangement, 3 core intercooler and race bypass.

If your going to run a centrifigual supercharger, the way to go is Procharger.

[The Novice]

I wish! But i can only spend so much money, i am a college student. So for now i was just looking for a little extra HP, Goblin, or anyone for example, what do you think about the Vortech with a menthonal kit? How much HP does it make, and is it worth it? The posted question is 4 Posts up. If any one can help it would me much appreciated, thanks guys.

[Goblin]

Definately yes to the second choice. The V-2 SQ Trim is a good head unit, and running at 10psig you can expect about 400rwhp with your current combination of parts. I would leave the methonal out of the picture for now. Keep things simple.

[The Novice]

Originally Posted by Goblin Definately yes to the second choice. The V-2 SQ Trim is a good head unit, and running at 10psig you can expect about 400rwhp with your current combination of parts. I would leave the methonal out of the picture for now. Keep things simple.

So would you say its not worth saving the extra $900? Just wondering.
Since you seem to know quite a bit, just wondering here is there away to get the 1st one listed to put out more HP? Like with a new pulley? Or is it just not worth it since i'd have to get the bypass valve to? ( or do i not really need it? how much do they run jw?)

Also if i did get that 2nd Vortech, what else would i prob need to get this thing going? Or is the kit 100% ready to go ( i know they say it is but ya never know anymore with fine print and all ) Plus i see it comes with a Blue MSD ignition ( see pic ) do i use that instead of the 6AL? or both now or something?

Thanks Goblin for the help! If ya couldnt already tell i dont exactly know a ton about this stuff, so thank you very much! -The Novice.

[Goblin]

The second system you listed would be your best choice in your situation. It comes with everything you need, including the bypass valve. You wouldnt need to purchase anything else other than the kit.

The V1 head unit is old, its Vortechs first supercharger. Its not nearly as efficient as the V2, and it will build more heat trying to provide the same airflow the V2 would... and it gets worse at elevated boost levels. If your going to spend the money, spend it on the V2.

[The Novice]

Well thank you very much for your help! And i will look into that one for sure now, What is the Blue MSD box though? Im guessing i need it, but will it replace my MSD 6AL? It doesnt say exactly what it is so i dunno, hopefully there is a Rev limiter in it? I dunno though hopefully someone does?
Also if im going to have boost as a plus would it be a good idea to get a boost gauge and/or a air/fuel gauge? Or are those more for show and i dont need them? If so i'll look into them, just figured it might be a good idea but since this will be just a street rod dunno if you thing it is still a good thing to have or not, got any opinion on that?
Thanks again for your help Goblin, very much appreciated and your advice is very helpful, thanks * Gives Goblin a star sticker *

[ryans88gt]

It is the BTM (boost timing retard module). It will work together with your current 6AL and instructions will come with it. It pulls timing when it sees boost (you run a vacuum/boost line to it) to keep things safe.

It would be a good idea to get a fuel pressure gauge and a boost vacuum gauge. Don't wast money on a A/F gauge unless you are going to get a wideband unit.

I agree that if you want the power of a 10 PSI unit, don't buy the 5 PSI unit because it does not come with the supporting parts. Also 5 PSI isn't going to get you very much. Maybe 80 extra hp, you'll want more for sure and then you'll end up spending more money to get it.

[ryans88gt]

Originally Posted by Goblin Procharger P1SC, 12 rib arrangement, 3 core intercooler and race bypass.

that sounds familiar...

[fogged306]

Are the internals stock? If not, you may want to check and see if your compression ratio has been upped from stock before you look into any boost. Just my .02

[Goblin]

Originally Posted by ryans88gt that sounds familiar...

It does, doesnt it... Wonder where i got the idea from....


The Novice > Ryan covered your last question perfectly.