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351W and a C6 into a Fox?
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the 351w will use the same motor mounts. the only different things he will need is an oil pan, headers. Also intake manifold, distributer and oil pump are different on a 351w....
as far as the C6 goes I've never heard of that being done..... Why would you? If you want a drag transmission build up a C4 and put a ratchet shifter in it. If you want a more streetable tranny use a tremec 5 or 6 speed.....
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The C-6 is a little bigger physically than a C-4, you may run into some clearance issues, especially when it comes to headers. I don't know for certain about the drive shaft. I think the front yoke is the same but the length may be different. Any good drive shaft shop can fix that problem.
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A 351 with a C6 will be slower than a 302 with a T5.
C6 is a junk tranny, don't bother with it. Sell it on ebay and buy a C4 or even an AOD.
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Its his car, and he found this combo "deal" so I dno, I personally would have stuck with building the 5.0 block up, ill let him know that the tranny is garbage for his application though
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a c6 is good tranny,if built is stronger then most built c4s, but robs more hp then a c4,i think a shorty header is req when a c6 is used with its larger bell area..id get a c4 if ya wanta auto or get c6 built up along with good upgrades on the 351w,also if a 351w is mounted in a fox usually ya need a cowl hood for taller 351w..unless you use a drop engine mount like a solid kind or so..but 351w droped in place of a 302 is pretty simple drop in
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A stock C-6 is stronger than a stock C-4. The C-6 is heavier, larger and has an intigrated bellhousing. It will be a tight fit but it will go in. A sledge hammer helps with firewall and tunnel clearance. I would try to trade the C-6 off for a C-4 instead.
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you cant run long tubes with a c6 like said above it will hit, it is a tight enough fit with a 302. i would loose the block get a 302 and put them heads on with a diff head bolt arp sells run a 5spd and it could be done cheap
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A C6 is heavy and sucks up about 100 hp. As far as strong, no not really any better than a C4.
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If that was the case, Ford would have just used the C-4 behind the 460 truck motor instead of the C-4
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towing and drag racing are very different... *yawn*
and because ford did something, doesn't mean it is logical...for example the mustang II king cobra.
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yeah, I guess that was a bad assumption on my part. With a 351w and C6, they are probably going to use the mustang as a tow rig.
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I can see how you could make that kind of mistake.
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I'd pull all of my finger nails and toe nails out with a pliers before I'd use a C6 in a performance application. Not only is it heavy and consumes a ton of power but it also will require tunnel modifications to get it to fit.
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yes it is going to be a drag car, and i did convince him to get rid of the c6 for a c4, we still need heads, intake, and a drive shaft
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