R.I.P motor need advice

gotn20 · May 17th, 2008, 10:18 PM

Ok so it finaly happend my stock 182,000 mile stock motor finally went. 20+ bottles of nitrous later lol. So here's my delima. I just bought 220 cc trickflow heads and I'm gunna by a short block from woody but for now I wana get my stock one running again. Well my problem is this my piston blew a chunk out the side and the intire top ring just got chewed up and i guess spit out cause i cant find it lol. Well it scored about a little gouge at the very top of the cylinder where only the top ring impacts it and it's for about a quater of an inch. My question is on a tiny gouge if i just put in the new rotating assembly and rings and I all ready honed the cylinders will it run ok at least for a few months while i save up? Plus I scored some 351 iron dart windsor heads and a b cam that I can use for free for two or three months till i have the new motor done. I just hope it will run ok What do you guys think.

93hatch · May 17th, 2008, 10:25 PM

is it shallow enough to where a .030 bore would take care of it? cuz you prob gota get that anyways for your stroker kit

gotn20 · May 17th, 2008, 10:31 PM

i dont want to bore this motor. I got a stock rotating assembly and new bearings for free so all i'm gunna be out is rings and a gasket kit. I just want it to run for a few months till I order the the long block the new intake manifold put my heads on it etc etc. I just wonder if that little gouge will hurt the ring that touches it for like a quater of an inch

Iownastang · May 18th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by gotn20

i dont want to bore this motor. I got a stock rotating assembly and new bearings for free so all i'm gunna be out is rings and a gasket kit. I just want it to run for a few months till I order the the long block the new intake manifold put my heads on it etc etc. I just wonder if that little gouge will hurt the ring that touches it for like a quater of an inch

could you take some pics?

And what do you mean by iron dart windsor heads?

world products windsor sr's or jr's maybe'?

JBIGBOOTSY · May 18th, 2008, 12:21 AM

As long as the gouge is not exactly parallel with the top ring, you'll be OK.

gotn20 · May 18th, 2008, 03:29 PM

sweet. You know I'm not sure what the heads are exactly they came of my buddies 302 all i know is the ports are huge compared to my e7's and they have some pretty big valves. But i'm not worried about ptv cause I'm using his old rotating assembly, his old b cam and his lifters and his old heads lol. They say windsor on the top. I'll take pics when i get home of the heads and the cylinders. Oh the heads are iron. He says there dart 351 windsor heads. They look sick. Oh and i got earson cam 1.6 roller rockers from him. Are those any good? I think i'm just gunna put it together and see how it runs.

gotn20 · May 18th, 2008, 03:37 PM

so like i said above the number 8 piston was the broken one, there was a huge chunk missing out of the side and the entire top ring was missing. what are you guys guesses on where the ring is and what caused it lol. I think the ring chunked up and went through the valve and i hadn't sprayed nitrous in like 4 weeks before it blew up. I was just crusing down the freeway. It doesnt look like the motor ever went lean. The valves and carbon plugs everything showed perfect color. Pics tomorrow.

Iownastang · May 18th, 2008, 10:38 PM

If they say windsor on the top of them then more than likely they are 351 windsor heads that have been worked.

There is no such thing as a dart windsor head

May 17th, 2008, 10:18 PM	#1
gotn20 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 361	R.I.P motor need advice Ok so it finaly happend my stock 182,000 mile stock motor finally went. 20+ bottles of nitrous later lol. So here's my delima. I just bought 220 cc trickflow heads and I'm gunna by a short block from woody but for now I wana get my stock one running again. Well my problem is this my piston blew a chunk out the side and the intire top ring just got chewed up and i guess spit out cause i cant find it lol. Well it scored about a little gouge at the very top of the cylinder where only the top ring impacts it and it's for about a quater of an inch. My question is on a tiny gouge if i just put in the new rotating assembly and rings and I all ready honed the cylinders will it run ok at least for a few months while i save up? Plus I scored some 351 iron dart windsor heads and a b cam that I can use for free for two or three months till i have the new motor done. I just hope it will run ok What do you guys think.

May 17th, 2008, 10:25 PM	#2
93hatch Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 Lx Skittle fast Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: sitting on my hand Posts: 2,866	is it shallow enough to where a .030 bore would take care of it? cuz you prob gota get that anyways for your stroker kit __________________ Greatest fail of MM's history http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...icer-page.html

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May 17th, 2008, 10:31 PM	#3
gotn20 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 361	i dont want to bore this motor. I got a stock rotating assembly and new bearings for free so all i'm gunna be out is rings and a gasket kit. I just want it to run for a few months till I order the the long block the new intake manifold put my heads on it etc etc. I just wonder if that little gouge will hurt the ring that touches it for like a quater of an inch

May 18th, 2008, 12:21 AM	#5
JBIGBOOTSY Hardcore Enthusiast 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 2,064	As long as the gouge is not exactly parallel with the top ring, you'll be OK.

May 18th, 2008, 03:29 PM	#6
gotn20 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 361	sweet. You know I'm not sure what the heads are exactly they came of my buddies 302 all i know is the ports are huge compared to my e7's and they have some pretty big valves. But i'm not worried about ptv cause I'm using his old rotating assembly, his old b cam and his lifters and his old heads lol. They say windsor on the top. I'll take pics when i get home of the heads and the cylinders. Oh the heads are iron. He says there dart 351 windsor heads. They look sick. Oh and i got earson cam 1.6 roller rockers from him. Are those any good? I think i'm just gunna put it together and see how it runs.

May 18th, 2008, 03:37 PM	#7
gotn20 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 361	so like i said above the number 8 piston was the broken one, there was a huge chunk missing out of the side and the entire top ring was missing. what are you guys guesses on where the ring is and what caused it lol. I think the ring chunked up and went through the valve and i hadn't sprayed nitrous in like 4 weeks before it blew up. I was just crusing down the freeway. It doesnt look like the motor ever went lean. The valves and carbon plugs everything showed perfect color. Pics tomorrow.

May 18th, 2008, 10:38 PM	#8
Iownastang MM Fanatic 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 4,825	If they say windsor on the top of them then more than likely they are 351 windsor heads that have been worked. There is no such thing as a dart windsor head

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