[_UnLiMiTeD_]

Hey guys, im new here and new to mustangs, always loved them but never owned one. In the next few months, hopefully by the end of summer i will be purchasing a mustang 5.0 notchback.

I had been going back and forth between a notchback and a 03/04 cobra terminator for quite some time but i like making my cars unique and it made more sense to start off cheaper and save the extra money for my own mods to make it unique.

What i am looking to get is a weekend car that can be taken to the tracks here and there but still be streetable. Looking into the 500hp range, i was considering starting with a fresh block, maybe a 306 stroker. The price range i am at right now for a motor is 8-$10,000. If less then deffinately.j

Here is a few things i would like though:
To run off pump gas
Have a/c
power steering
5 speed or a 6 speed tranny

Now what i need help with is what is the best way to go about doing this?

Turbo?procharger?Super charger?N/A? The only thing i dont want is to use nitrous, i want power that will always be there when i need it, not run out of a bottle.

From my reading this looks to be a very good forum to go to for advice so im putting my trust in you guys to help steer this noob in the right direction. Once its all done i will of course show you guys the end result but this wont be an overnight thing, im thinking in over a year or so span. Its going to be clean, not blingy, not covered in stickers or loaded with a million subs. I much prefer the sound of a healthy V8 with some headers and a cam singing its own tune. Im sure many agree with me on that.

So anything you guys can tell me will be great, i have a decent understanding about cars but deffinately not enough to do my own 500hp project lol.

[BWAL]

no such thing as a 306 stroker.. go with a turbocharged 347 stroker

[SALIV8]

talk to jay allen at camshaftinnovations.com let him know what you want, he'll get you a custom cam and possibly heads and look for a fresh 347 stroker- with a mexican block because they're stronger- if you can find one and you'll be at 5000.00 dollars and probably more than 500 hp.

[_UnLiMiTeD_]

hmm no 306 stroker, could have swore i read about one before oh well, see im a noob lol. Anyways, is a 347 stroker reliable? like not prone to cracking or premature wear? Like i said, i will want to race it sometimes also, so it will need to stand up to some abuse, not just look pretty and be a trailer queen. I know there is always risks when you start getting into the 500+ range, but if done right i dont see a problem.

So far one guy for N/A and one for Turbo.

Also i do live in B.C Canada so im not sure if some places where you guys go to i can get.

[BWAL]

to make a 306, you just bore a 302 .030 over

[demonicus]

there is no stroke to the 306... just bigger pistons on the stock rotating assembly.
If you would like to go forced induction with good driving manners and a stock 5.0 block then I suggest you go with an STS twin turbo kit to put the turbo's out of the engine bay as you want to keep the A/C.

you can stroke a 306 to 331 if you would like but 347 is for those that want to stay N/A with a stock block. otherwise you are removing alot of the sidewall for adding pressure in there.

[BWAL]

Originally Posted by demonicus there is no stroke to the 306... just bigger pistons on the stock rotating assembly. If you would like to go forced induction with good driving manners and a stock 5.0 block then I suggest you go with an STS twin turbo kit to put the turbo's out of the engine bay as you want to keep the A/C. you can stroke a 306 to 331 if you would like but 347 is for those that want to stay N/A with a stock block. otherwise you are removing alot of the sidewall for adding pressure in there.

yeah, i should have mentioned that a turbo 347 on the stock block isn't a great idea

[r.barn]

Just run a turbo on a lightly built 306.
Simple to do in your budget with good street manners and insane power.

FordStrokers.com 331-347-393-408-418-427 stroker kits and ford parts. is awesome engine house.
UNBEATABLE customer service.


This guy made 520rwhp on simple turbo build at 12psi
Got the car tuned today. Quicktime turbo!!! - Corral Forums

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Here are some of the mods...

Stock bottom end
TFS twisted wedge heads
TFS track heat intake
E303 cam
60lb injectors
SCT 2800 MAF
TKO trans
3.27 gears
PT6776 turbo
Single 3.5" exhaust with a Borla XR1 muffler dumped at the axle.

[1slo5.0]

500 hp on pump gas is pretty simple to do. You have many options which a few have already been mentioned in this thread. I'd stick with a 306 and a blower or turbo. With the small cubes and boost you will maintain good fuel economy as long as you stay out of the boost. These days fuel economy is just as important as A/C in a street cruiser.

[Iownastang]

Originally Posted by demonicus there is no stroke to the 306... just bigger pistons on the stock rotating assembly. If you would like to go forced induction with good driving manners and a stock 5.0 block then I suggest you go with an STS twin turbo kit to put the turbo's out of the engine bay as you want to keep the A/C. you can stroke a 306 to 331 if you would like but 347 is for those that want to stay N/A with a stock block. otherwise you are removing alot of the sidewall for adding pressure in there.

It is huh?: well lets see the 331 uses a .030 bore and so does the 347 so how would stroking it to a 347 be any different than stroking it to a 331 well there is none. They both use a .030 bore the 331 uses a 3.250 in stroke and the 347 uses a 3.4 in stroke.

If you could please explain to me how you are going to be taking away more cylinder wall with a 347 than a 331/?

[BWAL]

Originally Posted by Darrell 500 hp on pump gas is pretty simple to do. You have many options which a few have already been mentioned in this thread. I'd stick with a 306 and a blower or turbo. With the small cubes and boost you will maintain good fuel economy as long as you stay out of the boost. These days fuel economy is just as important as A/C in a street cruiser.

why not keep it stock displacement? will the few extra cubic inches make that much of a difference?

[Iownastang]

Originally Posted by BWAL09 why not keep it stock displacement? will the few extra cubic inches make that much of a difference?

Cleans up the cylinder walls and allows for a better ring seal.

[BWAL]

gotcha.

so that's only for a stock block, right?

why not just bore it out .010? isn't that what most shops do when they rebuild your engine?

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by BWAL09 why not keep it stock displacement? will the few extra cubic inches make that much of a difference?

The added displacement is a by product of boring the block .030 to create a "fresh" engine. If the engine runs strong, doesn't burn any oil and passes a compression test I probably wouldn't touch the bottom end.

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by BWAL09 gotcha. so that's only for a stock block, right? why not just bore it out .010? isn't that what most shops do when they rebuild your engine?

.030 is probably the most common over bore size out there. .010 might clean up some cylinders by not others. Take it .030 right away and make sure it is cleaned up. Pistons are more common as well.

[e3sean]

just buy ryans procharged 306 518hp to the wheels he is selling it for 10K and bam no guess work ryan built it you know its done right the only thing u would proly want to do is put a tremic in it he is running on borrowed time with that stock t-5

[_UnLiMiTeD_]

Ok just to make it clear, i will be starting with a fresh block. I wont be using the one in the car, i got the budget to get it so why not instead of risk using a used and older block that could create problems later on, no way to tell how a previous person has really treated that motor so easy way to eliminate that fear is to start new lol.


Also there are some high horsepower notchbacks to buy out here, but i want my own to make, not one that someone else did.

Right now im hearing 306 with a turbo or blower. I promise, this car will look like a brand new notchback when im done. Im going to be gutting the interior and the entire drivetrain and getting it all prepped and painted. The only things i am looking for when buying my mustang is one with minimal or no rust which living in B.C Canada wont be too hard to find since we dont use salt on our roads.

[BWAL]

what is your budget anyways?

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_ Ok just to make it clear, i will be starting with a fresh block. I wont be using the one in the car, i got the budget to get it so why not instead of risk using a used and older block that could create problems later on, no way to tell how a previous person has really treated that motor so easy way to eliminate that fear is to start new lol. Also there are some high horsepower notchbacks to buy out here, but i want my own to make, not one that someone else did. Right now im hearing 306 with a turbo or blower. I promise, this car will look like a brand new notchback when im done. Im going to be gutting the interior and the entire drivetrain and getting it all prepped and painted. The only things i am looking for when buying my mustang is one with minimal or no rust which living in B.C Canada wont be too hard to find since we dont use salt on our roads.

A new factory block or a new aftermarket block. If you are going to use a factory block it won't matter if it is new or not. As long as your current block is not cracked (unlikely) it will be no weaker or stronger than a new factory block. Either way you will need machine work so you aren't saving any money there either. People use old blocks all the time. After you have it machined the cylinders and mains are new again anyway.

[_UnLiMiTeD_]

Well i was thinking a new aftermarket but your saying it will be safe to use to block that comes in it and just get it all machined?. My budget for the motor is around $8000 BWAL09.