69 camaro 305

1BADSTANG · June 2nd, 2008, 08:44 AM

My buddy has a 69 camaro SS with a 305 in it. I know its still 305 cubes, it has a mild h/c/i combo. Maybe not even heads.. Where are dyno numbers for these cars? what is the average? how much do they weigh?

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2008, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

My buddy has a 69 camaro SS with a 305 in it. I know its still 305 cubes, it has a mild h/c/i combo. Maybe not even heads.. Where are dyno numbers for these cars? what is the average? how much do they weigh?

Are you sure its not a 307? Are you sure its and SS? I don't believe the SS cars came with the 307 either. Chevy didn't make a 305 until the mid 70s. The car weighs in the 3800 pound area.

Iownastang · June 2nd, 2008, 11:20 AM

+ 1 did he tell you it has a 305 in it/>/?

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2008, 11:27 AM

I think the 327 is the smallest engine offered in the 69 SS........I think.

Iownastang · June 2nd, 2008, 11:33 AM

You are correct on that one Darrell it was the smallest engine offered in the 69 ss/

1BADSTANG · June 2nd, 2008, 11:51 AM

he put the 305 in it sorry.

baine21225 · June 2nd, 2008, 12:24 PM

took out a 327 to put in a 305?

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

he put the 305 in it sorry.

Damn. Why would he do such a thing. 305s are turds.

1BADSTANG · June 2nd, 2008, 03:09 PM

he bought the car with no engine or tranny, thats what he had. So what numbers are we looking at darrell?

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2008, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

he bought the car with no engine or tranny, thats what he had. So what numbers are we looking at darrell?

Ahhhhh. I see. I have no idea on power numbers. Probably not much. The 305 is not known for its horsepower potential due to its small bore size.

1BADSTANG · June 2nd, 2008, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Ahhhhh. I see. I have no idea on power numbers. Probably not much. The 305 is not known for its horsepower potential due to its small bore size.

well okay.. if you had to put 20 dollars down on a 69 camaro with a 305 mild HCI versus a mustang gt 1988 with full bolt ons and e 303 cam what would you do?

78mach1 · June 2nd, 2008, 03:28 PM

haha mustang all the way, my buddy has a 72 nova that used to have a fairly built 350 and i left him like there was no tommorrow in my 78

to tell you the truth, i have never seen 305 that made enough power to get out of the way.

Modified88Dreamer · June 2nd, 2008, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Ahhhhh. I see. I have no idea on power numbers. Probably not much. The 305 is not known for its horsepower potential due to its small bore size.

Speaking of horsepower numbers, Darrell. Do you know by chance what the 03-04 Cobra bhp is? I'm planning to build a 302 in the 400hp range and wanted to be close to the Cobra's hp at the rear wheels, cuz I know my tranny will take more power away from the engine than the manuals in the Cobra. Heres the list.

Heads- World Windsor Sr.
Cam- Crane Solid Roller
Intake Manifold- Edelbrock Victor Jr.
Lifters- Crane Solid Roller
Pushrods-Crane
Valve Springs- Crane Dual
Roller Rockers- Harland Sharp 1.6:1 (7/16" stud mount)
Bearings- Clevite 77.... Main, Rod, Cam Bearings
Pistons- Keith Black 281
Piston Rings- Hasting Powerflex
Main Studs- ARP
Head Bolts- ARP
Rod Bolts- ARP Wave lock
Oil Pump- Melling 68HV
Oil Pump shaft- Ford Racing
Oil pickup/Screen- Clevite
Windage tray- Ford Racing
Timing Chain-Cloyes True Roller
Distributor- 1985 DuraSpark (metal gears)
Harmonic Balancer- Fluidampr (50 oz)
Water pump- CSR
Ignition- MSD 6AL
Spark plugs- Motorcraft
Headers- Hooker Super Comp 1 5/8"- 3" collector
Flywheel- 50 oz
X-Pipe
Mufflers- Flowmasters Super 44

Now I know alot of the stuff I listed isn't hp, but just wanted to see if you know of anything better to use or if all of it's a good combo. I really dont want to go with a carburetor, but if I have to it would be the holley double pumper 750. The compression ratio would be at 9.4:1. Is that low enough to run a KB in the future? If not what pistons would you recommend.

rk_2000_Z/28 · June 2nd, 2008, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

well okay.. if you had to put 20 dollars down on a 69 camaro with a 305 mild HCI versus a mustang gt 1988 with full bolt ons and e 303 cam what would you do?

You will kill him!!! Those things were piss slow witht the stock 327 in them, and then the guy goes and puts a motor that is not much better than a paper weight?!?!

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2008, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

well okay.. if you had to put 20 dollars down on a 69 camaro with a 305 mild HCI versus a mustang gt 1988 with full bolt ons and e 303 cam what would you do?

1988 GT hands down.

vfast · June 2nd, 2008, 04:02 PM

the DZsbc 302 was in 68 and 69 z28/ss camaros

Originally Posted by Darrell

I think the 327 is the smallest engine offered in the 69 SS........I think.

1slo5.0 · June 2nd, 2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Modified88Dreamer

Speaking of horsepower numbers, Darrell. Do you know by chance what the 03-04 Cobra bhp is? I'm planning to build a 302 in the 400hp range and wanted to be close to the Cobra's hp at the rear wheels, cuz I know my tranny will take more power away from the engine than the manuals in the Cobra. Heres the list.

Heads- World Windsor Sr.
Cam- Crane Solid Roller
Intake Manifold- Edelbrock Victor Jr.
Lifters- Crane Solid Roller
Pushrods-Crane
Valve Springs- Crane Dual
Roller Rockers- Harland Sharp 1.6:1 (7/16" stud mount)
Bearings- Clevite 77.... Main, Rod, Cam Bearings
Pistons- Keith Black 281
Piston Rings- Hasting Powerflex
Main Studs- ARP
Head Bolts- ARP
Rod Bolts- ARP Wave lock
Oil Pump- Melling 68HV
Oil Pump shaft- Ford Racing
Oil pickup/Screen- Clevite
Windage tray- Ford Racing
Timing Chain-Cloyes True Roller
Distributor- 1985 DuraSpark (metal gears)
Harmonic Balancer- Fluidampr (50 oz)
Water pump- CSR
Ignition- MSD 6AL
Spark plugs- Motorcraft
Headers- Hooker Super Comp 1 5/8"- 3" collector
Flywheel- 50 oz
X-Pipe
Mufflers- Flowmasters Super 44

Now I know alot of the stuff I listed isn't hp, but just wanted to see if you know of anything better to use or if all of it's a good combo. I really dont want to go with a carburetor, but if I have to it would be the holley double pumper 750. The compression ratio would be at 9.4:1. Is that low enough to run a KB in the future? If not what pistons would you recommend.

I don't know for sure but I've heard they are more than advertised by Ford. A friend of mine has one and it made 340 and some change at the wheels bone stock off the showroom floor.

BWAL · June 2nd, 2008, 04:07 PM

i believe the 03-04 cobras were rated at 390hp from the factory, but it is said that 425hp is a more realistic number, and 380ish rear wheel horsepower is common from the factory

G.T. Rags · June 2nd, 2008, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by BWAL09

i believe the 03-04 cobras were rated at 390hp from the factory, but it is said that 425hp is a more realistic number, and 380ish rear wheel horsepower is common from the factory

twiddly dinks is right

Modified88Dreamer · June 2nd, 2008, 04:19 PM

Whats the percentage of hp the AOD takes from the engine? Isn't like 15-20%?

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Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	+ 1 did he tell you it has a 305 in it/>/?

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Iownastang I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1987 ford mustang gt well see when shes done Join Date: May 2007 Location: mascot, tn Posts: 5,020 iTrader: 0 reviews	You are correct on that one Darrell it was the smallest engine offered in the 69 ss/

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1BADSTANG Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: long island Posts: 1,515 iTrader: 0 reviews	he bought the car with no engine or tranny, thats what he had. So what numbers are we looking at darrell?

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78mach1 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: utah Posts: 1,365 iTrader: 0 reviews	haha mustang all the way, my buddy has a 72 nova that used to have a fairly built 350 and i left him like there was no tommorrow in my 78 to tell you the truth, i have never seen 305 that made enough power to get out of the way.

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