When To Upgrade Fuel Pump?
Forums at Modded Mustangs
Home Register FAQ Members List Calendar Blogs Garage Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Insurance


Go Back   Forums at Modded Mustangs > Mustang Forums > 5.0 Mustangs

ModdedMustangs.com is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old November 6th, 2006, 01:05 PM   #1
Enthusiast
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 906
mikebert is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to mikebert Send a message via MSN to mikebert
Default

When To Upgrade Fuel Pump?


I had to drop my fuel tank to investigate a leak recently and I'll probably wind up buying a new tank thanks to the rust around the pump and float holes. While I have the tank sitting in my garage, I was wondering about replacing the fuel pump. Does it help at all?

The fuel system is stock and the engine has all the normal bolt ons + E303. I have 70mm MAF, 65mm TB and EGR and milled GT40Ps ready to go on for my next round of wrench turning. May get a Trickflow intake as well. No plans for forced induction.

I doubt that a fuel pump will give me more power over a stock fuel system, but I have read reports of the EFI 302's getting low fuel pressure or running lean when you push them hard. Is this really a probably with stock fuel systems? Would an upgraded fuel pump solve the problem? Or would an upgraded fuel pump + adjustable fuel pressure regulator solve the problem?
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old November 6th, 2006, 01:20 PM   #2
Doc
 
HMUSN's Avatar
 
1986 SVO
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 36,836
HMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond reputeHMUSN has a reputation beyond repute
iTrader: 9 reviews
Default

i'm not much of a pushrod guy but while you are in there why not throw one in anyway. it'll set you up for future gains without wondering if you are going to run lean.
i have an avaitor fuel pump/39 pound injectors and i never run lean
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old November 6th, 2006, 03:15 PM   #3
MM Ninjas!
 
1slo5.0's Avatar
 
1990 Mustang LX
9.36@143 mph
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Posts: 11,375
1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all
iTrader: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 1slo5.0
Default

If you are going to have the tank out and you plan on future upgrades, throw a 255lph pump in right away.
__________________
My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm....


***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost
  Reply With Quote
Old November 6th, 2006, 05:46 PM   #4
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Posts: 3,831
Tony_90fox has a spectacular aura aboutTony_90fox has a spectacular aura aboutTony_90fox has a spectacular aura about
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Tony_90fox
Default

+1, i am gonna do it whenever i have my tank out too, but that might be awhile!
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
[B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B]
[QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]
  Reply With Quote
Old November 6th, 2006, 11:09 PM   #5
MM Fanatic
 
Stangzilla's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: On my way to Baines's house!!
Posts: 3,298
Stangzilla is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

4 sure like Darrel said put a 255lph in right away and like you said a regulator and a gauge would be a wise addition
  Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:07 PM   #6
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 98
hmotes is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Which one would be ideal 155, 190, or 255? I plan on staying n/a, add a few bolt-ons and throw in the TF topend kit in the future. I just figure I go ahead and upgrade the pump. I have a e-cam and car don't feel right.
  Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:20 PM   #7
Enthusiast
 
terribleonexx88's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: new england
Posts: 820
terribleonexx88 is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to terribleonexx88
Default

the gas tank is only 2 bolts to drop it so its not that big of a deal if its down or not
__________________
85 svo. work in progress
  Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:21 PM   #8
MM Ninjas!
 
1slo5.0's Avatar
 
1990 Mustang LX
9.36@143 mph
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Posts: 11,375
1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all
iTrader: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 1slo5.0
Default

Originally Posted by hmotes
Which one would be ideal 155, 190, or 255? I plan on staying n/a, add a few bolt-ons and throw in the TF topend kit in the future. I just figure I go ahead and upgrade the pump. I have a e-cam and car don't feel right.
Go with the 255lph. It will leave room to grow in the future. It will not hurt your mileage or be less reliable than the smaller pumps so you might as well get the big one. I've used a few BBK 255lph pumps with good luck. Someone once told me that Walbro makes most of those pumps that are on the market.
__________________
My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm....


***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost
  Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:40 PM   #9
MM Fanatic
 
Stangzilla's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: On my way to Baines's house!!
Posts: 3,298
Stangzilla is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

yeah a 255 is the way to go. and L8tr on if you want to highly mod the or add nitrous all you have to do is install a inline booster pump to make up for it. remember more fuel is better than not enough fuel to a certain extent. the few extra dollars it costs for a 255 is very minimal..spend the money scrooge....
__________________
Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!!

Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.
  Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2006, 01:16 AM   #10
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 98
hmotes is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Is there a preferable brand for the fuel pump? (holley, bbk, edelbrock etc...)
  Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2006, 08:55 AM   #11
MM Fanatic
 
Stangzilla's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: On my way to Baines's house!!
Posts: 3,298
Stangzilla is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

they are all good
__________________
Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!!

Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.
  Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2006, 09:36 AM   #12
Regular
 
5.slo's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 53
5.slo is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Im gonna be installing a new fuel pump soon, what kind of job is it? Easy or PITA? I just want to prepare myself.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2006, 01:40 PM   #13
MM Ninjas!
 
1slo5.0's Avatar
 
1990 Mustang LX
9.36@143 mph
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Posts: 11,375
1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all1slo5.0 is a name known to all
iTrader: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to 1slo5.0
Default

Originally Posted by 5.slo
Im gonna be installing a new fuel pump soon, what kind of job is it? Easy or PITA? I just want to prepare myself.
It is fairly easy if the tank is empty or close to empty.
__________________
My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm....


***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost
  Reply With Quote
Old December 30th, 2006, 02:05 AM   #14
Enthusiast
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 906
mikebert is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to mikebert Send a message via MSN to mikebert
Default

It should be fairly easy. Since I've wrestled with it recently, here's what you need:

Socket set - just something normal, nothing funky here
Jack
A piece of wood to support tank with
Fuel line disconnect tool
Brass hammer or rubber mallet

If the tank is not empty, you can also buy a siphon pump. They come in several different varieties, but you can probably find a cheap one that looks like the pump from a blood pressure cuff with a rubber hose on each end. I bought something at a Home Depot which sucked because it wasn't a "siphon," it was a pump with a valve that prevented the free flow (ie, siphon) when you weren't pumping.

Just remember to relieve the fuel system pressure before doing anything. Somehow, while I was at school for a week (having depressurized the system weeks before that) I came back and disconnected the new tank and got a cloud of 93 octane straight to the face. Still haven't figured that out, because when I took the original tank out, there was no discharge. Must have been the OPEC Faeries.
  Reply With Quote
Old December 30th, 2006, 03:46 AM   #15
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Posts: 3,831
Tony_90fox has a spectacular aura aboutTony_90fox has a spectacular aura aboutTony_90fox has a spectacular aura about
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Tony_90fox
Default

gas to the face is always fun. Happened to me while changing the fuel filter. yeah the little switch in the hatch is there for a reason! lol
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
[B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B]
[QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]
  Reply With Quote
Old December 31st, 2006, 05:03 AM   #16
Enthusiast
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 906
mikebert is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to mikebert Send a message via MSN to mikebert
Default

gas to the face is always fun. Happened to me while changing the fuel filter. yeah the little switch in the hatch is there for a reason! lol
Yeah, I know it's there for a reason. I disconnected it, ran the engine til it died, dropped the tank then put the new tank in a few weeks later. But somehow, when I dropped the new tank (which was never had gas put in it) I got a cloud of gasoline to the face.

So someone (Bigfoot?) decided to prime my fuel lines with a turkey baster or something after I emptied them and removed the old fuel tank, but before I put the new tank in. It's a mystery.
  Reply With Quote
Old December 31st, 2006, 04:06 PM   #17
Banned
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Posts: 3,831
Tony_90fox has a spectacular aura aboutTony_90fox has a spectacular aura aboutTony_90fox has a spectacular aura about
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Tony_90fox
Default

I was talking about me! Wasnt trying to upset you man. I forgot all about the button and i got gas in my face.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
[B][U]MM Sapper Squad[/U][/B]
[QUOTE=Regency 2007;1676187]MSO's stupidity has never stopped amazing me since the day he joined this forum.[/QUOTE]
  Reply With Quote
Old January 18th, 2007, 10:33 PM   #18
Regular
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 98
hmotes is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Is there a way to know if I already have an aftermarket fuel pump without removing the tank? I can hear my pump constantly when the car is on.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 19th, 2007, 12:49 AM   #19
MM Fanatic
 
Stangzilla's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: On my way to Baines's house!!
Posts: 3,298
Stangzilla is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

How elso would the fuel get to the motor if the pump was not on when the car is running? And no you cannot tell if the pump is bigger by listening to it they all pretty much sound like a electric motor unless you have an additional inline pump like I do then it is quite a bit louder when I turn the key on but after my car starts i cant hear shit! lol
__________________
Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!!

Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.
  Reply With Quote
Old January 21st, 2007, 03:24 AM   #20
Regular
 
shawn91stang's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 82
shawn91stang is on a distinguished road
iTrader: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to shawn91stang Send a message via Yahoo to shawn91stang
Default

Like everyone has said a 255lph is the only way to go because you can adjust the pressure with your fuel pressure regulator so if you ever decide to go with supercharger or turbo you can just bump up your pressure a little without having to change your pump because you are running lean. Lean is really bad. After you get these get your car dyno tuned and it will make it perfect you can gain some horsepower out of it too I was running lean and I got 30rwhp just by adjusting the pressure lol. I am going 255lph as we speak. So I will see how much more I will get out of it. http://www.diablosport.com/index.php...display&pid=32 this will give you a place around you that dyno tunes your mustang if you dont know where one's @.
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools


Threads Similar to: When To Upgrade Fuel Pump?
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fuel System Upgrade??? 95blackbeauty 94-95 1 September 5th, 2007 04:31 PM
fuel pump musclepony 5.0 Mustangs 1 August 15th, 2007 03:15 PM
fuel pump 95wip 5.0 Mustangs 6 June 25th, 2007 11:57 AM
fuel pump fuel pressure stuff JBIGBOOTSY 5.0 Mustangs 2 April 26th, 2007 04:31 PM
Fuel injectors and MAF upgrade? 97TunedMustang V6 Mustangs 18 December 8th, 2006 03:44 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:14 AM.
Modded Mustangs is ©2005-2008, All Rights Reserved, And is Not Affiliated with Ford Motor Company.
Forum is powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd. & SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.

powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Ent. Ltd.