[1BADSTANG]

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89 alright bro but u should think about calming down with the way u post... trying to embarras people... remember this is a public forum... and i was posting based on this bro... a family member built a 331 a while back... forged internals, balanced and blue printed, yata yata... because of money shortages used GT 40-X heads,1.6rr, b303 cam, trickflow street heat intake, CAI, 73 mm mass air, 70 mm throttle body, 24# injectors, 3.73 gears, 1 3/4" shorties, 2.5" exhaust,x-pipe, custom burnt chip with dyno tune...made 268 rwhp.... built by a reputable engine builder... (not the best setup i agree)... now Ive seen stock 5.0 dyno graphs read about 190-195 rwhp... Now if you know this and someone says hey A set of trickflow t.w. heads will give you 40, 50, 60 hp at the wheels... there might be a little skeptisism...I agree thats not a lot of power from a 331... but i swear to you that setup only made 268 rwhp... and your saying that installin a set of heads will jump 190 hp to 230-240 hp, and it may just do that... sorry for having an oppinion that might not mesh with ur thinking... just letting you know where im coming from

Embaress people? where did that come from, darrell is one of the few guys on this board that knows his shit.

268rwhp witha a331? a trick flow intake? good lord .. clogged cats? blown head gasket? thats fucking terrible!

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

it wasnt my motor so i dont know all the details... all i know is the graph... the torque numbers were around 319...

[Iownastang]

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89 i know its easy to make 300 hp 302cid... i make right at 500 with a 331... and yes the motor i described was a clusterphuck of peices...and i do respect Darrell's knowledge... from what i understand he has a pretty badass car... i just have my doubts... i guess its just my way of thinking...i apologize if anyone took me the wrong way...i dont want any hard feelings...

We dont have any hard feelings man we are just trying to inform thats all.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89 alright bro but u should think about calming down with the way u post... trying to embarras people... remember this is a public forum... and i was posting based on this bro... a family member built a 331 a while back... forged internals, balanced and blue printed, yata yata... because of money shortages used GT 40-X heads,1.6rr, b303 cam, trickflow street heat intake, CAI, 73 mm mass air, 70 mm throttle body, 24# injectors, 3.73 gears, 1 3/4" shorties, 2.5" exhaust,x-pipe, custom burnt chip with dyno tune...made 268 rwhp.... built by a reputable engine builder... (not the best setup i agree)... now Ive seen stock 5.0 dyno graphs read about 190-195 rwhp... Now if you know this and someone says hey A set of trickflow t.w. heads will give you 40, 50, 60 hp at the wheels... there might be a little skeptisism...I agree thats not a lot of power from a 331... but i swear to you that setup only made 268 rwhp... and your saying that installin a set of heads will jump 190 hp to 230-240 hp, and it may just do that... sorry for having an oppinion that might not mesh with ur thinking... just letting you know where im coming from

First off, I'm not your bro. Secondly, you are reading into things too much. I'm not sure how you think I was trying to embarras you. When you are wrong and someone corrects you, it doesn't mean they are trying to embarras you. It means you are wrong.

As for your 331 issues, the X heads and B303 cam are choking it. 268hp out of that engine is a joke. You can make over 300rwhp with a set of Trick Flow heads, Trick Flow cam and Trick Flow intake on a stock engine. There are people that are making 280+rwhp with all factory parts (P heads, Explorer intake, etc.) So just because your family member has a way underpowered 331 doesn't mean that other people are going to make less horsepower because they have a 302.

[1BADSTANG]

[quote=Darrell;1215105]First off, I'm not your bro.quote]


are you.... my bro, darrell?



Im hoping to make around 300rwhp with a nicely ported set of gt40p's, a ported explorer intake, and a decent cam.

[coffinator6]

first off ill state that im a noob to the 5.0 scene. I aqm a mod motor guy.

with that out of the way. the guy should easily make the hp Darrell stated. I also think it would help to get a set of long tube headers. no sence in getting all that air in if you can't get it out. That will also help with the scavenging effect.

just my .02 cants.

[stang94]

[notch9350]

to those of you who helped, thanks. i already have crane 1.6 rockers i will be using, i do need new pushrods though and I figured i'd do the cam while it was accessible. Its from comp, 512/533 281/284 112 l.s.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by notch9350 to those of you who helped, thanks. i already have crane 1.6 rockers i will be using, i do need new pushrods though and I figured i'd do the cam while it was accessible. Its from comp, 512/533 281/284 112 l.s.

With the heads you have I'd look at something like the Comp Cams 35-518-8 cam. The specs are 224/232 duration at .050 .555/.565 lift and 112 lobe separation. That will take more advantage of the good flowing heads you have.

[fogged306]

Originally Posted by Darrell With the heads you have I'd look at something like the Comp Cams 35-518-8 cam. The specs are 224/232 duration at .050 .555/.565 lift and 112 lobe separation. That will take more advantage of the good flowing heads you have.

PTV clearance won't be an issue with that cam and stock pistons?

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by fogged306 PTV clearance won't be an issue with that cam and stock pistons?

Probably not. I've used the TFS 51402001 cam in many stock short block 5 liters and it has similar specs to the Comp cam I listed. The Twisted Wedge heads offer a bit more valve clearance than a conventional head due to the valve placement. Either way I'd check piston to valve clearance regardless of what cam I used.