[notch9350]

My 93 is basically stock with a Mac cai, FRPP shorties, flowmaster h pipe and catback. I have a set of TFS twisted wedge heads from my old carbed 87, do you guys think it would be worth it to install these heads the way the car is? Or should I buy other supporting top-end parts and install everything in a few months?

[1BADSTANG]

depends, if you cant wait it would be a sweet street car regardless.

[r.barn]

You'll def. pick up some power ....... specially if you already have them.

I would go ahead and change out the cam while it's all apart though.
Intake you can upgrade easy later, but cam would require complete
tear down again.

[Avaric3]

well if youre doin the work yourself and dont mind spending the time id throw them on asap

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

get the supporting parts... my hones oppinion... it wont hurt to go ahead and put them on but dont expect them to help a great bunch until you get the correct pieces to make good gaines performance wise...

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

what cam are you thinking about going with? Intake? You will notice a difference if you just install the heads but if you get a cam and intake that work well with the heads you can make some decent power even from a stock bottom end...

[1BADSTANG]

the heads would give you at least 40rwhp increase,id say thats a nice amount.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

I hate to disaree here being new and all...but 40rwhp...on a stock motor seems a little much i could believe 40 bhp

[1BADSTANG]

no.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

im not aguing with you, believe what you want...

[91cobra5.0]

put em on +11213243221232144132413214

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by notch9350 My 93 is basically stock with a Mac cai, FRPP shorties, flowmaster h pipe and catback. I have a set of TFS twisted wedge heads from my old carbed 87, do you guys think it would be worth it to install these heads the way the car is? Or should I buy other supporting top-end parts and install everything in a few months?

Yes, it would be well worth it.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89 I hate to disaree here being new and all...but 40rwhp...on a stock motor seems a little much i could believe 40 bhp

Would you care to make a wager on that? I'll up the ante and estimate 50-60 horsepower with the heads, 1.7 rockers, stock cam and stock intake. Would you like to take my bet? I know people that have picked up over 30 rear wheel horsepower just by bolting on P heads.

I'd swap intakes before I'd spend money on a cam. Alot of people make alot of power with the stock cam. Some 1.7 rockers will take advantage of the increased airflow at higher lifts.

[Iownastang]

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG no.

What is with your bitchy attitude all the time.?

[1BADSTANG]

Originally Posted by Iownastang What is with your bitchy attitude all the time.?

Bitchy attitude? Its well over 40rwhp and i know that from looking at dynos recently and all i said was no. jesus christ my bitchy attitude? your the one lol chill dude were all family. Maybe lately i am acting different because i am going through a divorce but i try not to let that affect me but sorry all if im being a jerk.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

I just thought that 40rwhp by just putting on a set of twisted wedge heads was a high number... Im no professional engine builder but still 40RWHP is a considerable gain... I would have no problem believing 40+ rwhp with heads, 1.7 rockers, etc...

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89 I just thought that 40rwhp by just putting on a set of twisted wedge heads was a high number... Im no professional engine builder but still 40RWHP is a considerable gain... I would have no problem believing 40+ rwhp with heads, 1.7 rockers, etc...

Like I said, people pick up 30 hp with GT40P heads. And for the record I said "50-60 horsepower with the heads, 1.7 rockers, stock cam and stock intake". You made it sound like I was implying heads and a bunch of other parts. Heads and rockers only. You would need rockers for the heads anyway so you might as well get some 1.7 rockers to take advantage of the heads increased flow capabilities. That's fine if you are not an engine builder and have no experience with what you are talking about. If that is the case, don't say you can't gain that much with those heads and tell other people that they are wrong. Just because you think something isn't possible doesn't mean that it isn't possible.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

alright bro but u should think about calming down with the way u post... trying to embarras people... remember this is a public forum... and i was posting based on this bro... a family member built a 331 a while back... forged internals, balanced and blue printed, yata yata... because of money shortages used GT 40-X heads,1.6rr, b303 cam, trickflow street heat intake, CAI, 73 mm mass air, 70 mm throttle body, 24# injectors, 3.73 gears, 1 3/4" shorties, 2.5" exhaust,x-pipe, custom burnt chip with dyno tune...made 268 rwhp.... built by a reputable engine builder... (not the best setup i agree)... now Ive seen stock 5.0 dyno graphs read about 190-195 rwhp... Now if you know this and someone says hey A set of trickflow t.w. heads will give you 40, 50, 60 hp at the wheels... there might be a little skeptisism...I agree thats not a lot of power from a 331... but i swear to you that setup only made 268 rwhp... and your saying that installin a set of heads will jump 190 hp to 230-240 hp, and it may just do that... sorry for having an oppinion that might not mesh with ur thinking... just letting you know where im coming from

[Iownastang]

Originally Posted by Sleeper_Stang_89 alright bro but u should think about calming down with the way u post... trying to embarras people... remember this is a public forum... and i was posting based on this bro... a family member built a 331 a while back... forged internals, balanced and blue printed, yata yata... because of money shortages used GT 40-X heads,1.6rr, b303 cam, trickflow street heat intake, CAI, 73 mm mass air, 70 mm throttle body, 24# injectors, 3.73 gears, 1 3/4" shorties, 2.5" exhaust,x-pipe, custom burnt chip with dyno tune...made 268 rwhp.... built by a reputable engine builder... (not the best setup i agree)... now Ive seen stock 5.0 dyno graphs read about 190-195 rwhp... Now if you know this and someone says hey A set of trickflow t.w. heads will give you 40, 50, 60 hp at the wheels... there might be a little skeptisism...I agree thats not a lot of power from a 331... but i swear to you that setup only made 268 rwhp... and your saying that installin a set of heads will jump 190 hp to 230-240 hp, and it may just do that... sorry for having an oppinion that might not mesh with ur thinking... just letting you know where im coming from

Hes not trying to embarass you hes trying to help you. And you can make 300rwhp with a 302 very easily but i have never heard of someone only making 268 rwhp with a 331 that is a very badly mismatched piece of a motor. And its not his opinions, he is right and he has been around the block more than once. Like i said before it is very easy and not real expensive to make 300 hp to the wheels with a 302 and i can see a set of tf heads giving you at least 50 hp to the wheels at a minimum.

BTW:That reputable engine builder must have been a retard.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

i know its easy to make 300 hp 302cid... i make right at 500 with a 331... and yes the motor i described was a clusterphuck of peices...and i do respect Darrell's knowledge... from what i understand he has a pretty badass car... i just have my doubts... i guess its just my way of thinking...i apologize if anyone took me the wrong way...i dont want any hard feelings...