[qwkvert]

Ok, so here is my dilemma...the car runs good, spanks ls powered cars pretty easily, but I know that I am leaving a LOT on the table with my weak induction/cam combo. I would guestimate this combo is prolly puting down about 410-425 to the rears max right now, but it is just a guess.
The current combo is as follows: Eddy Performer RPM EFI w/ pro products lowwer port matched to 1262r(whew, that was a lot of grinding!),nx282hr comp cam(hydraulic roller), 75mm throttle body, 30lb injectors, 80mm maf, standard bbk in fender cai, a9l with series 2 pms and wide band, running 34* total at wot( all in at 2200 wot) and 13.5-12.5 a/f. To upgrade to anything bigger will set me back 7-8 bills(90mm,spyder,etc)....... should I just sell/trade this efi crap off and carb it and swap in a solid roller and see what it does? I know that it will improve, but just not sure if it would be enough to justify the swap/conversion. the rest of the combo is TFS R heads(205cc), 383 w/11:1 compression, built t-5, 3.73's, and no accessories but alternator and water pump. car is about 3300 with me in it.
I am looking to put it in the 6's and don't really think it will do it on motor right now. It might be close, but I want solid 6's on motor out of her.
I am not concerned about driveability, cause I love driving a wicked car, and can tolerate a lot. Just post up ur opinions, and I will listen.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

300-400 bucks on a custom ground cam... I am also considering going to what you stated 90mm, spyder intake... but I will have to upgrade my 30# injectors to 42# and get another hood... the reason I say a custom ground cam is they can work wonders... I went through Jay at camshaft innovations... even if you decide not to go with a custom cam filling out a build sheet and talking to him to see the best way to get you where you want can never hurt

[qwkvert]

ya, but I am still stuck with a sh!tty intake, and can sell this stuff off and get the carb, intake,dizzy,springs, and a cam and prolly still have cash left over. just thinkin out loud, and poking around for advice, know what I mean?

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

tru... it might workout better with the carb setup

[fastpoknee]

get you a nice proforms carb

[83fox]

i like the quickfuel carbs but right now i have an edelbrock

barry grant carburators are really nice too

[qwkvert]

so you guys say dump the efi? the more I think on it the more I think it would benifit me, and be easier to make powa.

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by qwkvert Ok, so here is my dilemma...the car runs good, spanks ls powered cars pretty easily, but I know that I am leaving a LOT on the table with my weak induction/cam combo. I would guestimate this combo is prolly puting down about 410-425 to the rears max right now, but it is just a guess. The current combo is as follows: Eddy Performer RPM EFI w/ pro products lowwer port matched to 1262r(whew, that was a lot of grinding!),nx282hr comp cam(hydraulic roller), 75mm throttle body, 30lb injectors, 80mm maf, standard bbk in fender cai, a9l with series 2 pms and wide band, running 34* total at wot( all in at 2200 wot) and 13.5-12.5 a/f. To upgrade to anything bigger will set me back 7-8 bills(90mm,spyder,etc)....... should I just sell/trade this efi crap off and carb it and swap in a solid roller and see what it does? I know that it will improve, but just not sure if it would be enough to justify the swap/conversion. the rest of the combo is TFS R heads(205cc), 383 w/11:1 compression, built t-5, 3.73's, and no accessories but alternator and water pump. car is about 3300 with me in it. I am looking to put it in the 6's and don't really think it will do it on motor right now. It might be close, but I want solid 6's on motor out of her. I am not concerned about driveability, cause I love driving a wicked car, and can tolerate a lot. Just post up ur opinions, and I will listen.

Change the cam and put a Victor EFI on it and be done with it. The Spyder would be a good choice too.

That T5 isn't going to live long behind that monster.

[qwkvert]

that is what i initially thought, so i had it g-forced(the trans)...what do you think i should go with for a cam darrell? you are the one I was hoping to see post up in here for me cause I HAVE SEEN THE VIDS!! not that I dont care or appreciate allthe other posters, but it is kinda obvious that u know what you are talkin about. is the vic efi better than the tfs r products?

[notchabovechevy]

I love the billet proform 950's and a good vic jr.....I think it really cleans and simplifies the engine bay... good luck either way

[qwkvert]

thanks, gonna mull it over a while I guess.

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by qwkvert that is what i initially thought, so i had it g-forced(the trans)...what do you think i should go with for a cam darrell? you are the one I was hoping to see post up in here for me cause I HAVE SEEN THE VIDS!! not that I dont care or appreciate allthe other posters, but it is kinda obvious that u know what you are talkin about. is the vic efi better than the tfs r products?

I'd call Cam Motion or Jay Allen for a custom solid roller. You have obviously stuck some cash into this engine so you might as well get the perfect cam for it as well. I honestly don't know if a Victor EFI is better than any TFS intake. I don't know which makes more power for any given combination. I have used several Victor EFI intakes in the past and made great power with them. I have also used the Trick Flow Track Heat, R-Series and R-Series box intake with good success. I'm working on a big inch Windsor right now with R-series heads and I'm using a Victor EFI on it. I need to open it up a bit but I think it will work as good or better than the Trick Flow intakes on this combination because of the shorter runners. I think the box intake is more of a forced induction intake because of the open design of the upper. I could be wrong though. I'm not well skilled in the abilities of EFI intakes yet. The only real information I have is the information I've gathered from using various intakes.

[qwkvert]

thanks for taking the time to answer... I guess I should just send jay some money and let him do his thing then. So you do think I should swap out these springs and cam and swap in a solid roller though? I know a hr cam leaves a lot under the curve that a solid will utilize....just not sure if it is enough to justify the cash. I guess that I just need to save a little bit of cash up.

[Sleeper_Stang_89]

If you dont want to mess with valve lash then HR is best... but it would be better to get the SR...

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by qwkvert thanks for taking the time to answer... I guess I should just send jay some money and let him do his thing then. So you do think I should swap out these springs and cam and swap in a solid roller though? I know a hr cam leaves a lot under the curve that a solid will utilize....just not sure if it is enough to justify the cash. I guess that I just need to save a little bit of cash up.

Yes, the cam is too small and is leaving power under the table. A solid roller will always out perform a hydraulic roller given the proper cam specs.

[qwkvert]

ok, I just got a tfs r intake from a buddy, I talked him into going carb and saeeing who's car is gonna break more

[qwkvert]

Holy Crap! I just cant believe the difference in runner sizes between the tfs r intake and this performer rpm. I would say alt leat 30-40 % LARGER. no joke, that much....

[1slo5.0]

Originally Posted by qwkvert Holy Crap! I just cant believe the difference in runner sizes between the tfs r intake and this performer rpm. I would say alt leat 30-40 % LARGER. no joke, that much....

Did you get the box or the standard R-series? Either way it will be an improvement over your RPM intake.

[qwkvert]

just the r series, not the box, I am leaving now for a test drive.........

[qwkvert]

well, it is not as strong from idle to 3k, but it def pulls higher, I had the light set for 6150 before, and I rolled right through that on my test drive cause it was still pulling. not sure where it pulled to, I was too busy listening and 'feeling'. it has a diferent sound when you blip the throttle now too, not as raspy as it was. I guess that is good for my neighbors though...it just sounds mellow, but still revs nice.