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Old July 9th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #1
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okay well Im about ready to replace my TFS track heat intake with A spyder intake... now here comes the question... I know I need larger injectors (30# are working at 92% already) so 42# injectors would naturally be my choice, with that would I need new fuel rails maybe even a 255lph fuel pump? also Im assuming the best MAF and TB would just be the 90mm right? and of course I am gonna have jay grind a new cam for me...and I would get another dyno tune... wow this is turning out rather expensive...I might as well just save up the extra dough and get the 2.055 intake valves in my canfield 195 heads...
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I know probe makes it but does summit or jegs carry it? I heard its just a Victor Jr with the power elbow... is this true?
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dude i drive a neon....but it makes perfect sence to get all the other mods as well. no reason to push the 30's get the 42's and with those your going to need the fuel pump...and so on....how you like them canfields
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man I love them... I ordered them from Jay Allen along with a custom cam and actually they were back ordered and jay never got his hands on them they 100% ootb 195's and I am impressed... also I like them because they dont have any markings or logos on them... it makes it pretty fun when someone looks and they ant figure out what heads im running...
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hell yeah. list your mods and your times...
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1st: Get the Edlebrock Vic Jr EFI. Same thing as Spyder, but cheaper (which is a copy of the Vic.)
You have to get the $80 matching Edlebrock fuel rails for it. (same w/ spyder)

2nd: order just the TB elbow from Coast High. They cost about $150

3rd: I would get the Lightning 90mm MAF and Accufab 85mm "race" TB.

4th: Get the Anderson 4" power pipe CAI with 9" filter.

3 and 4 will really open up intake path for zero restriction.
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1st: Get the Edlebrock Vic Jr EFI. Same thing as Spyder, but cheaper (which is a copy of the Vic.)
You have to get the $80 matching Edlebrock fuel rails for it. (same w/ spyder)

2nd: order just the TB elbow from Coast High. They cost about $150

3rd: I would get the Lightning 90mm MAF and Accufab 85mm "race" TB.

4th: Get the Anderson 4" power pipe CAI with 9" filter.

3 and 4 will really open up intake path for zero restriction.
The Spyder includes rails and the 90mm elbow, the Victor Jr. EFI does not. The Edelbrock comes out to be more expensive once you buy the rails and elbow.
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dude i drive a neon....but it makes perfect sence to get all the other mods as well. no reason to push the 30's get the 42's and with those your going to need the fuel pump...and so on....how you like them canfields
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hell yeah. list your mods and your times...

331ci...tfs track heat intake, canfield 195 heads, jay allen (top secret lol) cam, 75 mm tb, 73 maf, 30# injectors, canton 7qt oil pan, centerforce dual friction clutch, CAI, 1&3/4 inch shorty headers (i know get long tubes) they have been opened a god bit at the collectors... 2.5" x-pipe, magnaflow blow through mufflers, rear seat delete, ac delete, electric fan, 200 amp altenator, custom dyno tuned chip (SCT) by Tony G at HP performance...

Suspension: Baseline pro launch 1 kit (Anti roll bar & double adjustable upper control arms), Pro3i Weight Jacker Lower control arms, battle boxes, subframes, strange 10-way adjustable shocks and stuts, stock springs,3.73's... weld draglites (skinnies up front) 10" slicks on the back...

no times yet with this new setup...I ended up reusing my old intake and I was really satisfied with the 488 hp in the engin dyno... also I really need a new tranny... Truth be told its my daily driver right now and if I break it Im walking...lol... but my engine builder (Zane Bates) said a similar motor came through his shop that went 10.70 consistantly with a 3000 lb car with driver in it....
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The Spyder includes rails and the 90mm elbow, the Victor Jr. EFI does not. The Edelbrock comes out to be more expensive once you buy the rails and elbow.
Plus CHP also offers the Fuel line kits for the jumbo rails to fit the stock fuel lines I believe...
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Old July 9th, 2008, 08:24 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Hunt_chevs View Post
whats up with your trick flows? gettiin rid of em?
I would keep the TFS upper and lower intake just as some spares or if I ever needed extra moola I could get rid of them pretty easily...
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also everyone that has one says they are running a 1" spacer just for the little bit linger runner... with me not being forced induction would that be a neccesity?
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331ci...tfs track heat intake, canfield 195 heads, jay allen (top secret lol) cam, 75 mm tb, 73 maf, 30# injectors, canton 7qt oil pan, centerforce dual friction clutch, CAI, 1&3/4 inch shorty headers (i know get long tubes) they have been opened a god bit at the collectors... 2.5" x-pipe, magnaflow blow through mufflers, rear seat delete, ac delete, electric fan, 200 amp altenator, custom dyno tuned chip (SCT) by Tony G at HP performance...

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no times yet with this new setup...I ended up reusing my old intake and I was really satisfied with the 488 hp in the engin dyno... also I really need a new tranny... Truth be told its my daily driver right now and if I break it Im walking...lol... but my engine builder (Zane Bates) said a similar motor came through his shop that went 10.70 consistantly with a 3000 lb car with driver in it....
Sounds like a bad ass little engine. I agree with the 10.70 predicition if your car in in the 2900-3000 ball park with you in it. If your builder is the same Zane that I'm thinking of, you made a good choice in an engine builder. I've heard alot of good things about him and I see him post alot of good info on a couple other sites that I go to.
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zane...from harcore 5.0 and sbftech and maybe even yellow bullet... i know he goes by bad95gts i think on sbftech
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zane...from harcore 5.0 and sbftech and maybe even yellow bullet... i know he goes by bad95gts i think on sbftech
Yes, that is the guy I'm thinking of.
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also everyone that has one says they are running a 1" spacer just for the little bit linger runner... with me not being forced induction would that be a neccesity?
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anyone know?
Ask Zane or dyno it with and without the spacer. Every engine is different.
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good point... he said he prefers short runner intakes...
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