new intake

AJSTANG · July 9th, 2008, 09:36 PM

I want to put a new intake on my car so I used the search on hear to read some old threads and now I have a couple of questions. First off this is for an 86 5.0 with cat back flowmaster, k&n air filter and bypassed smog pump. I want to get in the 300s for hp and I was told the best way is head cam and intake from another thread I posted. The intakes I am looking at are the eldelbrock performer, trick flow street burner, and the cobra. My questions are:

1: Which will be best when I put on new heads and a cam later on down the road?
2: The first two are for idle to 5500 rpms. Is this a good choice or not? I'm not doing track, just street riding.
3: What size tb should I go with? I want to go with a 70mm because I don't want to have to change it later so will it work on my set-up so far?

I read the cobra is only good up to 350hp and I want to supercharge in the future so I am leaning towards the other two. I know I should probably be going with heads and cam first but I want to do suspension mods first and can't afford to do all right now. I want to buy the heads and cam together to match them so I am going to get the intake now in preperation for the heads and cam. Any help is appretiated.

White Thunder · July 9th, 2008, 09:58 PM

if you s/c with the cobra you will make more than 350...but i say look around somemore. how much money you willing to spend and you sill got speed density?

AJSTANG · July 9th, 2008, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by White Thunder

if you s/c with the cobra you will make more than 350...but i say look around somemore. how much money you willing to spend and you sill got speed density?

I'm trying to spend as little as I need to but I will spend what I need to for getting one to work with new heads and cam later. I don't want to buy one now just to find out it won't work later because I didn't spend the extra money on a good one.

93hatch · July 9th, 2008, 10:15 PM

wana be cheap? do a explorer intake mani and put the stock tb on it till you do the rest or its gona run like shit

AJSTANG · July 9th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

wana be cheap? do a explorer intake mani and put the stock tb on it till you do the rest or its gona run like shit

Thanks I was wondering that too. I would rather wait on the tb if it would be better. No need to lose power now

93hatch · July 9th, 2008, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by AJSTANG

Thanks I was wondering that too. I would rather wait on the tb if it would be better. No need to lose power now

White Thunder · July 9th, 2008, 10:46 PM

yeah i say save and buy all at once....

91cobra5.0 · July 9th, 2008, 11:00 PM

dont forget to include the tune in the expenses

AJSTANG · July 9th, 2008, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by 91cobra5.0

dont forget to include the tune in the expenses

What gets done during a tune?

Sleeper_Stang_89 · July 9th, 2008, 11:12 PM

a tuner will put your car on the dyno and tune a chip for your ecu that optimizes performance

qwkvert · July 10th, 2008, 01:38 PM

MAF conversion 1st...........I am not sure, but I think you are gonna run into problems with the piston clearence as well in an 86, I think they have flat top w/o reliefs. may just want to look into finding a longblock from someone for sale.

Hunt_chevs · July 10th, 2008, 02:50 PM

yea your gonna wanna get rid of the speed density if you do h/c/i stuff, S/D doesnt do too well with the cams/heads and stuff

fordrarities · July 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM

yea you need to convert to MAF otherwise your wasting your money and its just gonna make it run worse. like posted above you will also run into clearence issues with the pistons...
before you do anything convert everything over to maf

nolife · July 10th, 2008, 04:44 PM

The Cobra/GT40/Explorer intake makes equal or more torque than most intakes under 4500-5000 rpm. They are cheaper as well. Makes a good choice if your not going all balls high rpm down the 1/4.

AJSTANG · July 10th, 2008, 05:26 PM

Well I decided I will wait and get the suspension and mass air this year and do the heads, cam, intake, and tune next year. What do I do about the piston clearance though? Is there a way to fix it for when I upgrade?

83fox · July 10th, 2008, 05:29 PM

i think you can either have valve reliefs put in your pistons, or you can buy aftermarket pistons.

im not sure but you might be able to use 87-92 302 pistons but others will chime in if im wrong

tmoss · July 10th, 2008, 11:01 PM

when you have some time, spend some time reading in the tech section of my website - lots of data on the power different street intakes make.

July 9th, 2008, 09:36 PM	#1
AJSTANG Regular 1986 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OHIO Posts: 56 iTrader: 0 reviews	new intake I want to put a new intake on my car so I used the search on hear to read some old threads and now I have a couple of questions. First off this is for an 86 5.0 with cat back flowmaster, k&n air filter and bypassed smog pump. I want to get in the 300s for hp and I was told the best way is head cam and intake from another thread I posted. The intakes I am looking at are the eldelbrock performer, trick flow street burner, and the cobra. My questions are: 1: Which will be best when I put on new heads and a cam later on down the road? 2: The first two are for idle to 5500 rpms. Is this a good choice or not? I'm not doing track, just street riding. 3: What size tb should I go with? I want to go with a 70mm because I don't want to have to change it later so will it work on my set-up so far? I read the cobra is only good up to 350hp and I want to supercharge in the future so I am leaning towards the other two. I know I should probably be going with heads and cam first but I want to do suspension mods first and can't afford to do all right now. I want to buy the heads and cam together to match them so I am going to get the intake now in preperation for the heads and cam. Any help is appretiated.

July 9th, 2008, 10:15 PM	#4
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,644 iTrader: 0 reviews	wana be cheap? do a explorer intake mani and put the stock tb on it till you do the rest or its gona run like shit __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

July 10th, 2008, 01:38 PM	#11
qwkvert Regular 1989 lx convertible 10.87 @ 128 ( old 302 combo) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mt Juliet,TN Posts: 277 iTrader: 1 reviews	MAF conversion 1st...........I am not sure, but I think you are gonna run into problems with the piston clearence as well in an 86, I think they have flat top w/o reliefs. may just want to look into finding a longblock from someone for sale. __________________ A bigger motor with a lot of parts they said would make me go faster......

July 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM	#13
fordrarities Regular 1990 GT Join Date: May 2006 Location: NC Posts: 111 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea you need to convert to MAF otherwise your wasting your money and its just gonna make it run worse. like posted above you will also run into clearence issues with the pistons... before you do anything convert everything over to maf __________________ 1990 Mustang GT

July 10th, 2008, 04:44 PM	#14
nolife MM Fanatic 91GT, 88GT, 02GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,057 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	The Cobra/GT40/Explorer intake makes equal or more torque than most intakes under 4500-5000 rpm. They are cheaper as well. Makes a good choice if your not going all balls high rpm down the 1/4. __________________

July 9th, 2008, 11:00 PM	#8
91cobra5.0 Hardcore Enthusiast 98 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 2,057 iTrader: 0 reviews	dont forget to include the tune in the expenses

July 10th, 2008, 02:50 PM	#12
Hunt_chevs Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Gt Not Slow Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SJ-CA, 50-ft elev. Posts: 1,649 iTrader: 1 reviews	yea your gonna wanna get rid of the speed density if you do h/c/i stuff, S/D doesnt do too well with the cams/heads and stuff

July 10th, 2008, 05:26 PM	#15
AJSTANG Regular 1986 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OHIO Posts: 56 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well I decided I will wait and get the suspension and mass air this year and do the heads, cam, intake, and tune next year. What do I do about the piston clearance though? Is there a way to fix it for when I upgrade?

July 10th, 2008, 05:29 PM	#16
83fox Enthusiast 1983 mustang lx Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 504 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think you can either have valve reliefs put in your pistons, or you can buy aftermarket pistons. im not sure but you might be able to use 87-92 302 pistons but others will chime in if im wrong

July 10th, 2008, 11:01 PM	#17
tmoss Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Louis, Mo Posts: 382 iTrader: 0 reviews	when you have some time, spend some time reading in the tech section of my website - lots of data on the power different street intakes make. __________________ 88 GT Vert 5spd, 3:73 gears, Explorer intake/65mm TB, Explorer Ps, Manley race 1.85/1.55 valves, 1.7/1.6 stud rockers, stock cam +4 degrees, MAC Jet-Hot coated shorties. 277RWHP/330RWTQ www.fastlanecars.com http://tmossporting.0catch.com/

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