timing?

5.0Madness · July 24th, 2008, 05:58 PM

ok I have a problem, Im trying to bump my timing up to 14, but I cant find any marks on the harmonic balancer and have no idea where to make new ones

boostjunkie · July 24th, 2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by 5.0Madness

ok I have a problem, Im trying to bump my timing up to 14, but I cant find any marks on the harmonic balancer and have no idea where to make new ones

Why 14? Hope I can help...

5.0Madness · July 24th, 2008, 06:10 PM

becus it should run better with the timing bumped up to 14, I just cant figure out how to do that

boostjunkie · July 24th, 2008, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by 5.0Madness

becus it should run better with the timing bumped up to 14, I just cant figure out how to do that

Can you at least do 15!! You got mail....

5.0Madness · July 24th, 2008, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by boostjunkie

Can you at least do 15!! You got mail....

wtf?

95StangMX · July 24th, 2008, 09:16 PM

believe you bring the number one piston to the top and put a mark on the top of your harmonic balancer....not positive on that....if you cant see the marks just pull the spout connector and move the dizzy a little and drive it...if you are detonating (pinging noise) back it off a little at a time till it stops....

86_Notch · July 24th, 2008, 10:35 PM

get a timing light with a knob ( i've got a relatively cheap ACTRON timing light that i got at autozone ) , then all you need to do is to make 1 mark on the balancer at 0 and adjust the knob, i've found that to be much easier then trying to read the balancer or making more then 1 mark on it ( my eyes aren't the greatest anyway tho )

dr.gonzo! · July 24th, 2008, 11:30 PM

Get a really bright floresent light and go under the car then look at the balancer. I couldnt see any number with a normal flash light but as soon as I put the timing light to it I could see it very clear. You may have to hit it with some solvent and a rag...

JBIGBOOTSY · July 25th, 2008, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by 86_Notch

get a timing light with a knob ( i've got a relatively cheap Laser ray gun, it kills aliens, and zombies ) , then all you need to do is to make 1 mark on the balancer at 0 and adjust the knob, i've found that to be much easier then trying to read the balancer or making more then 1 mark on it ( my eyes aren't the greatest anyway tho )

fixed

86_Notch · July 25th, 2008, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by JBIGBOOTSY

fixed

hehehe, i like that

1slo5.0 · July 25th, 2008, 09:44 AM

Clean the balancer. The numbers are there but most likely they are dirty or have a small layer of rust over them.

fox bodies rule · July 25th, 2008, 10:54 AM

before you go nuts trying to find the timing marks and doing what has been suggested may I suggest that you determine if your balancer is any good?The stock ones are notorious for the rubber islolater ring tearing and the timing marks slipping around to where they shouldn't be. If it isn't obvious to you that the balancer is toast try to wiggle it or turn it by hand. If you get any movement at all or find rubber hanging out where it shouldn't be, you have found your problem and can proceed from there- if you aren't comfortable that you have determined the status of the balancer, try findiing TDC. Be careful here, there are two TDC's in play per complete cycle so you need to know that both valves are closed when the piston is at TDC, that one is where you should be able to see the 0 on the dampner. If you need more help, pm me and I can walk you through the whole process

Hunt_chevs · July 25th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

Clean the balancer. The numbers are there but most likely they are dirty or have a small layer of rust over them.

+1, when i did my timing i had to get down there and rub/wipe the balancer b4 i could see any marks on it what so ever. Than you should be able to see and place a mark on it down there

1slo5.0 · July 25th, 2008, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by fox bodies rule

before you go nuts trying to find the timing marks and doing what has been suggested may I suggest that you determine if your balancer is any good?The stock ones are notorious for the rubber islolater ring tearing and the timing marks slipping around to where they shouldn't be. If it isn't obvious to you that the balancer is toast try to wiggle it or turn it by hand. If you get any movement at all or find rubber hanging out where it shouldn't be, you have found your problem and can proceed from there- if you aren't comfortable that you have determined the status of the balancer, try findiing TDC. Be careful here, there are two TDC's in play per complete cycle so you need to know that both valves are closed when the piston is at TDC, that one is where you should be able to see the 0 on the dampner. If you need more help, pm me and I can walk you through the whole process

+1 on the possibility of a bad stock balancer.

July 24th, 2008, 05:58 PM	#1
5.0Madness Regular 1994 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kernville Posts: 103 iTrader: 0 reviews	timing? ok I have a problem, Im trying to bump my timing up to 14, but I cant find any marks on the harmonic balancer and have no idea where to make new ones __________________ Mac CAI, flowmaster 40-series mufflers, Steeda shortthrow shifter, Mac O/R H-pipe

July 24th, 2008, 06:10 PM	#3
5.0Madness Regular 1994 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kernville Posts: 103 iTrader: 0 reviews	becus it should run better with the timing bumped up to 14, I just cant figure out how to do that __________________ Mac CAI, flowmaster 40-series mufflers, Steeda shortthrow shifter, Mac O/R H-pipe

July 24th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#7
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,522 iTrader: 0 reviews	get a timing light with a knob ( i've got a relatively cheap ACTRON timing light that i got at autozone ) , then all you need to do is to make 1 mark on the balancer at 0 and adjust the knob, i've found that to be much easier then trying to read the balancer or making more then 1 mark on it ( my eyes aren't the greatest anyway tho ) __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " . Last edited by 86_Notch; July 24th, 2008 at 10:45 PM.

July 25th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#11
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Clean the balancer. The numbers are there but most likely they are dirty or have a small layer of rust over them. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

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95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	believe you bring the number one piston to the top and put a mark on the top of your harmonic balancer....not positive on that....if you cant see the marks just pull the spout connector and move the dizzy a little and drive it...if you are detonating (pinging noise) back it off a little at a time till it stops....

July 25th, 2008, 10:54 AM	#12
fox bodies rule Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15 iTrader: 0 reviews	before you go nuts trying to find the timing marks and doing what has been suggested may I suggest that you determine if your balancer is any good?The stock ones are notorious for the rubber islolater ring tearing and the timing marks slipping around to where they shouldn't be. If it isn't obvious to you that the balancer is toast try to wiggle it or turn it by hand. If you get any movement at all or find rubber hanging out where it shouldn't be, you have found your problem and can proceed from there- if you aren't comfortable that you have determined the status of the balancer, try findiing TDC. Be careful here, there are two TDC's in play per complete cycle so you need to know that both valves are closed when the piston is at TDC, that one is where you should be able to see the 0 on the dampner. If you need more help, pm me and I can walk you through the whole process

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