tranny fluid

terribleonexx88 · November 21st, 2006, 06:00 PM

my t-5 tranny squeaks when my car is on (louder under high rpm) and doesnt shift as well as i like. i changed the fluid not to long ago with cheap dextron/mercon lll atf. is it because the fluid is cheap

stang fanatic · November 21st, 2006, 08:22 PM

sounds like a pilot bearing or u-joint. But could very well be a dry input shaft bearing

Jojogunne · November 21st, 2006, 08:26 PM

Am I miss reading this or did you say you put Auto Transmission Fluid in your T5 manual and you wonder why it squeaks?

jjg

stang fanatic · November 21st, 2006, 08:31 PM

he did right...t-5's take dexron in them...

terribleonexx88 · November 21st, 2006, 08:35 PM

ill take a look at the u joints. the privious owner roasted the tires almost everyday after school so the u-joint bearings are prob f***ed

Jojogunne · November 21st, 2006, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by stang fanatic

he did right...t-5's take dexron in them...

I looked that up and it is world class t5s that use atf.

Can you use atf in non world class t5s and how is it better then 70 gear lube?

Just wondering if I can switch.

jjg

Stangzilla · November 21st, 2006, 09:25 PM

dexron is a type of atf

83 5.0 · November 21st, 2006, 09:28 PM

How can you tell you have a WC unit? Bought a T5 which originally had gear old, and put Dexron in and have some sticky shifts trying to get into 1st and second.

terribleonexx88 · November 22nd, 2006, 11:36 AM

i was on the shitter thinking and it squeaks in neutral so the u-joints wouldnts be spinning. it sound like a squeaky fan belt but coming for the tranny

Jojogunne · November 22nd, 2006, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by 83 5.0

How can you tell you have a WC unit? Bought a T5 which originally had gear old, and put Dexron in and have some sticky shifts trying to get into 1st and second.

Get the # of the metal tag on the trany and enter it at this url.

http://www.5speeds.com/t5/

jjg.

ps. I guess some folks use atf in both but the non world class had gear lube from the factory.

Twist 2 Go · November 22nd, 2006, 10:56 PM

all t5's are designed to use atf.

Jojogunne · November 23rd, 2006, 09:37 AM

http://www.moderndriveline.com/FAQ.htm#_Toc29404679

Here is a nice FAQ file on tranys .... read it and then do what you think will best fit your situation.

jjg

83 5.0 · November 23rd, 2006, 07:25 PM

Wow! Great info, I might drain out the ATF as it had gear oil before, the tag is missing so I am SOL for figuring out if it is WC.

Thanks

Twist 2 Go · November 23rd, 2006, 07:51 PM

Ford motor company has never specified anything but atf for the t5's in their cars.

Jojogunne · November 23rd, 2006, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by 83 5.0

Wow! Great info, I might drain out the ATF as it had gear oil before, the tag is missing so I am SOL for figuring out if it is WC.

Thanks

Many people on this sight are disagreeing with my info. I have continued to search and have found sites that recommend ATF and other that recommend gear lube. So I am starting to get confused myself.

One sight said all T5 after 1990 are considered world class but I haven't the foggiest who is right anymore.

I hope someone can give us something definitive on the subject

jjg

Screemin3o2 · November 23rd, 2006, 10:36 PM

Don't diagree with what the company that manufactured the transmission says to put in it. Plain and simple, they are a lot smarter than you or I and they know what their transmission takes. Some manuals do take gear oil and some take ATF. Put in what your transmission takes and a t5 takes ATF. Also, Twist 2 Go posted that t5's have only ever taken ATF and he eats, breeds, and shits transmissions so I would take his word for it.

By they way, your driveshaft will still be spinning if your car is in neutral and still moving. First of all, I have never heard of a driveshaft bearing or u-joint bearing. You might be calling something by a different name than I am familiar with. And I expect it doesn't necessarily squeak when you are in neutral but it squeaks when you have the clutch disengaged and that is a common problem that everyone has, especially if they are on and off the clutch more than they should be. Sounds like a simple release bearing.

terribleonexx88 · November 24th, 2006, 12:00 AM

when i said u joint bearings i mean in the u joint itself the four ends have needle bearings in them so im wondering if the u joint isnt properly lubricated. but as i said in neutral the drive shaft does not spin, not driving and pushing down the clutch, but sittin in my driveway tranny in neutral and i get out of the car and there is noise coming from my transmission area similar to the sound of a squeaky fan belt.

Twist 2 Go · November 24th, 2006, 09:50 AM

sounds like it needs a release bearing for the clutch. try putting just a slight amount of pressure on the clutch pedal ( push it downwards about 1 inch) and see if it stops or changes in pitch. If so, there's your noise

terribleonexx88 · November 24th, 2006, 01:09 PM

ok the sound goes away when i push in the clutch so, how do i change the throw out bearing and is anything else gonna get ruined with the bearing being the way it is

CyberPrey · November 24th, 2006, 02:48 PM

to change the Throwout bearing isn't to bad, but it DOES require you to remove the transmission. I am not sure how the bellhousing looks on a mustang/t-5 combo, so I am not sure if you can pull the transmissiont itself out and leave the bellhousing and stuff on the car, and reach in and remove the bearing, or if you have to remove the bellhousing with the transmission and do it that way..... If you can just pull the transmission, thats generally easiest, but as I said I am not sure which way you need to go about it.

I would recommend a haynes/chilton manual, as they DO cover changing the clutch / bearing...

November 21st, 2006, 06:00 PM	#1
terribleonexx88 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: new england Posts: 817	tranny fluid my t-5 tranny squeaks when my car is on (louder under high rpm) and doesnt shift as well as i like. i changed the fluid not to long ago with cheap dextron/mercon lll atf. is it because the fluid is cheap __________________ 85 svo. work in progress

November 21st, 2006, 08:22 PM	#2
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 855	sounds like a pilot bearing or u-joint. But could very well be a dry input shaft bearing __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

November 21st, 2006, 08:26 PM	#3
Jojogunne Regular 1984 GT 13.79@98.99 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bloomsburg PA Posts: 102	Am I miss reading this or did you say you put Auto Transmission Fluid in your T5 manual and you wonder why it squeaks? jjg __________________ Eibach Sportsline, Mac, Moroso,Comp Cams,PRW roller rockers, and no money left over.

November 21st, 2006, 08:31 PM	#4
stang fanatic Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 855	he did right...t-5's take dexron in them... __________________ "The gods too are fond of a joke." "If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith. "

November 21st, 2006, 08:35 PM	#5
terribleonexx88 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: new england Posts: 817	ill take a look at the u joints. the privious owner roasted the tires almost everyday after school so the u-joint bearings are prob f***ed __________________ 85 svo. work in progress

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November 21st, 2006, 09:25 PM	#7
Stangzilla MM Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On my way to Baines's house!! Posts: 3,268	dexron is a type of atf __________________ Rotating The Earth 1320 Feet At A Time!! Today, I found out that when I masturbate at night while watching internet porn I cast a huge shadow on the curtain and the entire street is able to see it.

November 21st, 2006, 09:28 PM	#8
83 5.0 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Ont. Canada Posts: 256	How can you tell you have a WC unit? Bought a T5 which originally had gear old, and put Dexron in and have some sticky shifts trying to get into 1st and second.

November 22nd, 2006, 11:36 AM	#9
terribleonexx88 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: new england Posts: 817	i was on the shitter thinking and it squeaks in neutral so the u-joints wouldnts be spinning. it sound like a squeaky fan belt but coming for the tranny __________________ 85 svo. work in progress

November 22nd, 2006, 10:56 PM	#11
Twist 2 Go Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 1,716	all t5's are designed to use atf. __________________ 88 Mustang Coupe 2006 FFW Richmond True Street Runner-Up www.rickscarcare.net http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2158/ricksadql2.jpg

November 23rd, 2006, 09:37 AM	#12
Jojogunne Regular 1984 GT 13.79@98.99 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bloomsburg PA Posts: 102	http://www.moderndriveline.com/FAQ.htm#_Toc29404679 Here is a nice FAQ file on tranys .... read it and then do what you think will best fit your situation. jjg __________________ Eibach Sportsline, Mac, Moroso,Comp Cams,PRW roller rockers, and no money left over.

November 23rd, 2006, 07:25 PM	#13
83 5.0 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Ont. Canada Posts: 256	Wow! Great info, I might drain out the ATF as it had gear oil before, the tag is missing so I am SOL for figuring out if it is WC. Thanks

November 23rd, 2006, 07:51 PM	#14
Twist 2 Go Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 1,716	Ford motor company has never specified anything but atf for the t5's in their cars. __________________ 88 Mustang Coupe 2006 FFW Richmond True Street Runner-Up www.rickscarcare.net http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2158/ricksadql2.jpg

November 23rd, 2006, 10:36 PM	#16
Screemin3o2 Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 616	Don't diagree with what the company that manufactured the transmission says to put in it. Plain and simple, they are a lot smarter than you or I and they know what their transmission takes. Some manuals do take gear oil and some take ATF. Put in what your transmission takes and a t5 takes ATF. Also, Twist 2 Go posted that t5's have only ever taken ATF and he eats, breeds, and shits transmissions so I would take his word for it. By they way, your driveshaft will still be spinning if your car is in neutral and still moving. First of all, I have never heard of a driveshaft bearing or u-joint bearing. You might be calling something by a different name than I am familiar with. And I expect it doesn't necessarily squeak when you are in neutral but it squeaks when you have the clutch disengaged and that is a common problem that everyone has, especially if they are on and off the clutch more than they should be. Sounds like a simple release bearing. __________________ 95 Mustang GT Slow Bolt On Car http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8386/sig4rx2.jpg www.steelcitystangs.com

November 24th, 2006, 12:00 AM	#17
terribleonexx88 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: new england Posts: 817	when i said u joint bearings i mean in the u joint itself the four ends have needle bearings in them so im wondering if the u joint isnt properly lubricated. but as i said in neutral the drive shaft does not spin, not driving and pushing down the clutch, but sittin in my driveway tranny in neutral and i get out of the car and there is noise coming from my transmission area similar to the sound of a squeaky fan belt. __________________ 85 svo. work in progress

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November 24th, 2006, 09:50 AM	#18
Twist 2 Go Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 1,716	sounds like it needs a release bearing for the clutch. try putting just a slight amount of pressure on the clutch pedal ( push it downwards about 1 inch) and see if it stops or changes in pitch. If so, there's your noise __________________ 88 Mustang Coupe 2006 FFW Richmond True Street Runner-Up www.rickscarcare.net http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2158/ricksadql2.jpg

November 24th, 2006, 01:09 PM	#19
terribleonexx88 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: new england Posts: 817	ok the sound goes away when i push in the clutch so, how do i change the throw out bearing and is anything else gonna get ruined with the bearing being the way it is __________________ 85 svo. work in progress

November 24th, 2006, 02:48 PM	#20
CyberPrey Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 333	to change the Throwout bearing isn't to bad, but it DOES require you to remove the transmission. I am not sure how the bellhousing looks on a mustang/t-5 combo, so I am not sure if you can pull the transmissiont itself out and leave the bellhousing and stuff on the car, and reach in and remove the bearing, or if you have to remove the bellhousing with the transmission and do it that way..... If you can just pull the transmission, thats generally easiest, but as I said I am not sure which way you need to go about it. I would recommend a haynes/chilton manual, as they DO cover changing the clutch / bearing...