Water temperature

shurb125 · August 11th, 2008, 05:00 PM

I just installed some new Autometer gauges one being the water temp. I know the original car gauge ran to 270 but the new one only runs to 250. After a while of driving hard and not so hard the temp seems to stay around 230, is that running to hot or is that normal? I'm running an Taurus elec fan on high speed wire with a Delta Current Control unit with underdrive pullies. Thanks for all your help in advance.

83fox · August 11th, 2008, 05:15 PM

thats a little too hot for my comfort. id say 195-210 would be about perfect

Haggis13 · August 11th, 2008, 05:18 PM

+1 You're in the upper zone of discomfort for my liking.

trueblue01 · August 11th, 2008, 06:06 PM

That's the max I would ever want to see. 200 range would be alot safer with a small cushion for safety.

1slo5.0 · August 11th, 2008, 06:42 PM

That is a bit warm.

Goblin · August 12th, 2008, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by Darrell

That is a bit warm.

Just a tad. Could be worse.

shurb125 · August 12th, 2008, 10:11 AM

What do you guys reccomend I do to get it to cool better?

1slo5.0 · August 12th, 2008, 10:45 AM

I have no idea what a Delta Current Control is but that Taurus fan should be keeping it cool. What thermostat is in it? How hot is it outside when it is running 230 degrees? I know in extremely hot temperatures there isn't much you can do. My Suburban ran pretty hot in Las Vegas when the temp got over 100 degrees.

jrh_1980 · August 12th, 2008, 10:52 AM

pull the thermostat and see if that helps. if the temp stays low then try putting a cooler thermostat in. your cooling fan control may need to be adjusted. I would let the car cool off then start it and let it run until the upper hose starts to get warm. this indicates the thermostat has opened at that point i would adjust the temp control for the fan until the fan kicks on. give her a try and let us know how it goes.

Quetzali1 · August 12th, 2008, 11:04 AM

Did you replace the tempature sender? Also make sure that the fan actually works when hot. My dad's car had the electrical go out on him. So we jerry rigged the fan to always be on. Needless to say it didnt overheat anymore. Also, make sure that any gaps are closed off around the radiator. It tends to reduce the cooling power of the fan.

shurb125 · August 12th, 2008, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Darrell

I have no idea what a Delta Current Control is but that Taurus fan should be keeping it cool. What thermostat is in it? How hot is it outside when it is running 230 degrees? I know in extremely hot temperatures there isn't much you can do. My Suburban ran pretty hot in Las Vegas when the temp got over 100 degrees.

It has a 180 or 185 degree thermostat, the outdoor temp is anywhere from 95 to 100 last week.

shurb125 · August 12th, 2008, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Quetzali1

Did you replace the tempature sender? Also make sure that the fan actually works when hot. My dad's car had the electrical go out on him. So we jerry rigged the fan to always be on. Needless to say it didnt overheat anymore. Also, make sure that any gaps are closed off around the radiator. It tends to reduce the cooling power of the fan.

Yes I did replace the sender with the new one that came with the Autometer gauge. The fan works but it seems to hit the high speeds too late.

trueblue01 · August 12th, 2008, 04:13 PM

Pulling the termostat can make the problem worse. I run a restrictor with a 3/4" hole in it and no stat. The highest temp I've seen on a 100 degree day at the track after a run is 210. Normal street use around town on 90+ days is 195. I use a Moroso electric pump, 14" Be-Kool pusher fan and a Summit aluminum (universal) radiator.

rjay · August 12th, 2008, 05:22 PM

did you change the clutch fan?

shurb125 · August 12th, 2008, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by jrh_1980

pull the thermostat and see if that helps. if the temp stays low then try putting a cooler thermostat in. your cooling fan control may need to be adjusted. I would let the car cool off then start it and let it run until the upper hose starts to get warm. this indicates the thermostat has opened at that point i would adjust the temp control for the fan until the fan kicks on. give her a try and let us know how it goes.

I cranked the car after sitting from 9 PM till 4 PM the next day and did what you advised, the top hose started to get warm at about 160 - 170 as far as the new gauge shows. What would be your advice? Thanks for all your help guys!

shurb125 · August 12th, 2008, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by rjay

did you change the clutch fan?

I'm running an elec fan, the clutch fan assembly is gone.

jrh_1980 · August 13th, 2008, 10:38 AM

as soon as the stat opens and the upper hose gets hot that is when you should start backing down the adjustment on the temp control unit. you want the fan to kick on shortly after the stat opens.

August 11th, 2008, 05:00 PM	#1
shurb125 Regular 1993 Mustang LX Vert Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 437 iTrader: 0 reviews	Water temperature I just installed some new Autometer gauges one being the water temp. I know the original car gauge ran to 270 but the new one only runs to 250. After a while of driving hard and not so hard the temp seems to stay around 230, is that running to hot or is that normal? I'm running an Taurus elec fan on high speed wire with a Delta Current Control unit with underdrive pullies. Thanks for all your help in advance. __________________ 306 TFS heads stage 3 port & polished, TFS stage 2 cam, TFS Track heat intake, DSS pistons, 24# injectors, 76mm MAF, 70mm BBK/Edelbrock TB and spacer

August 11th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#3
Haggis13 Enthusiast 1993 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 593 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 You're in the upper zone of discomfort for my liking. __________________ Bart 93 Black on Black GT Kenne Bell S/C GIVE 'ER!

August 11th, 2008, 06:06 PM	#4
trueblue01 Enthusiast 1989 Mustang LX 10.98@126.7 NA Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	That's the max I would ever want to see. 200 range would be alot safer with a small cushion for safety. __________________ Never fast enough.

August 11th, 2008, 06:42 PM	#5
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	That is a bit warm. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

August 12th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#7
shurb125 Regular 1993 Mustang LX Vert Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 437 iTrader: 0 reviews	What do you guys reccomend I do to get it to cool better? __________________ 306 TFS heads stage 3 port & polished, TFS stage 2 cam, TFS Track heat intake, DSS pistons, 24# injectors, 76mm MAF, 70mm BBK/Edelbrock TB and spacer

August 11th, 2008, 05:15 PM	#2
83fox Enthusiast 1983 mustang lx Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 504 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats a little too hot for my comfort. id say 195-210 would be about perfect

August 12th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#8
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	I have no idea what a Delta Current Control is but that Taurus fan should be keeping it cool. What thermostat is in it? How hot is it outside when it is running 230 degrees? I know in extremely hot temperatures there isn't much you can do. My Suburban ran pretty hot in Las Vegas when the temp got over 100 degrees. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

August 12th, 2008, 10:52 AM	#9
jrh_1980 Regular 89 Mustang LX 7.90@90mph 8th Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Macomb, Illinois Posts: 151 iTrader: 1 reviews	pull the thermostat and see if that helps. if the temp stays low then try putting a cooler thermostat in. your cooling fan control may need to be adjusted. I would let the car cool off then start it and let it run until the upper hose starts to get warm. this indicates the thermostat has opened at that point i would adjust the temp control for the fan until the fan kicks on. give her a try and let us know how it goes.

August 12th, 2008, 11:04 AM	#10
Quetzali1 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	Did you replace the tempature sender? Also make sure that the fan actually works when hot. My dad's car had the electrical go out on him. So we jerry rigged the fan to always be on. Needless to say it didnt overheat anymore. Also, make sure that any gaps are closed off around the radiator. It tends to reduce the cooling power of the fan.

August 12th, 2008, 04:13 PM	#13
trueblue01 Enthusiast 1989 Mustang LX 10.98@126.7 NA Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Pulling the termostat can make the problem worse. I run a restrictor with a 3/4" hole in it and no stat. The highest temp I've seen on a 100 degree day at the track after a run is 210. Normal street use around town on 90+ days is 195. I use a Moroso electric pump, 14" Be-Kool pusher fan and a Summit aluminum (universal) radiator. __________________ Never fast enough. Last edited by trueblue01; August 12th, 2008 at 04:26 PM.

August 12th, 2008, 05:22 PM	#14
rjay Newbie 1988 mustang gt Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 reviews	did you change the clutch fan?

August 13th, 2008, 10:38 AM	#17
jrh_1980 Regular 89 Mustang LX 7.90@90mph 8th Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Macomb, Illinois Posts: 151 iTrader: 1 reviews	as soon as the stat opens and the upper hose gets hot that is when you should start backing down the adjustment on the temp control unit. you want the fan to kick on shortly after the stat opens.

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