Valve Spring Troublee!

tehdwarvenn · September 6th, 2008, 04:03 PM

I'm doing a camshaft replacement and I am also switching out the springs and lifters. I am stuck on the springs at the moment since I cannot remove a certain piece. It is the ring around the valve locks. Here is a good picture.

JBIGBOOTSY · September 6th, 2008, 04:05 PM

Do you have a valve spring compressor?

invisa stang · September 6th, 2008, 04:11 PM

you can not remove valve springs with a socket because you have to take out the ring that holds the spring in place

tehdwarvenn · September 6th, 2008, 05:20 PM

ok guys im not an idiot.. i said heres a picture of the ring... not hey heres a picture of what im trying to do!

yes i have a valve spring compressor. i figured it out though. tapping em down with a screwdriver works. is there an easier way?

JBIGBOOTSY · September 6th, 2008, 05:45 PM

a small screwdriver is what I use.

93mustank · September 6th, 2008, 05:50 PM

I use a socket

tehdwarvenn · September 6th, 2008, 07:00 PM

ughhh im stuck again. how do i get the other ones? (the one on the left in the picture) they are slightly different and they dont work like the other ones do. do i tap the outer thick ring down or do i get a socket to hit just the retainer ring down? (i cant get the retainer out of the ring)

tehdwarvenn · September 6th, 2008, 07:22 PM

one of my valves slid into its little hole. its about an inch in but didnt fall in completely... how the hell do i get it out? i cant push it up through the spark plug hole. ive tried all i can think of, i even tried sucking on the hole to bring it back up but it wont budge.

will putting a q-tip in with some rtv on the end stick to it? i think it has a fine layer of oil on it.

help. i have no idea how to take heads off.

fogged306 · September 6th, 2008, 07:42 PM

Someone may scold me for suggesting this.

If the valve stem is still in the hole partially and is still aligned, you could probably try turning the crank pulley with a breaker bar slowly until the piston pushes it up until you can grab it and lift it all the way up. Probably not the brightest thing in the world to try, but I'm a bit of a hack sometimes and thats what I would try. Stop if you feel a bind in any way, obviously.

tehdwarvenn · September 6th, 2008, 07:58 PM

yep i turned the crank with by the pulley and i got it pushed up. THANK GOD!
i was about to cry dude haha i could stand having to take off my exhaust, plumbing and fuel delivery.

trueblue01 · September 7th, 2008, 10:28 AM

Don't you have air applied to the cylinder as your removing the keeper and lock?

MOTOIMPAIRED · September 12th, 2008, 05:25 AM

If you put compressed air into the sparkplug hole of the cylinder that your working on, it will push the valve up closed and you wont have to worry about it falling..

5.8mustang · September 12th, 2008, 08:20 AM

it works ^^^^^^
best way

September 6th, 2008, 04:03 PM	#1
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301	Valve Spring Troublee! I'm doing a camshaft replacement and I am also switching out the springs and lifters. I am stuck on the springs at the moment since I cannot remove a certain piece. It is the ring around the valve locks. Here is a good picture. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, catless h-pipe, bbk shorties, 40 series flows, bbk rear suspension, edelbrock front suspension, AUTOLITES!!! =), k&n, underdrives, 3.73's

September 6th, 2008, 04:05 PM	#2
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 3,101	Do you have a valve spring compressor? __________________ I <3 Econobarns AFR graph.

September 6th, 2008, 04:11 PM	#3
invisa stang Regular 1992 mustang lx notch Join Date: May 2007 Location: shelton, ct Posts: 423	you can not remove valve springs with a socket because you have to take out the ring that holds the spring in place __________________ [rides 1987 ford F-350 XLT Lariat 7.3L idi diesel projects 1979 ford F-350 custom (soon to get 7.3Lidi diesel) 1992 ford mustang notch (just shell soon to get engine and drive train hopefully)

September 6th, 2008, 05:20 PM	#4
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301	ok guys im not an idiot.. i said heres a picture of the ring... not hey heres a picture of what im trying to do! yes i have a valve spring compressor. i figured it out though. tapping em down with a screwdriver works. is there an easier way? __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, catless h-pipe, bbk shorties, 40 series flows, bbk rear suspension, edelbrock front suspension, AUTOLITES!!! =), k&n, underdrives, 3.73's

September 6th, 2008, 05:45 PM	#5
JBIGBOOTSY MM Fanatic 1990 LX hatch Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hobart Indiana Posts: 3,101	a small screwdriver is what I use. __________________ I <3 Econobarns AFR graph.

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September 6th, 2008, 05:50 PM	#6
93mustank Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 2,046	I use a socket __________________ "Velocity is better than over all air flow." PeteAndersonRacing.com

September 6th, 2008, 07:00 PM	#7
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301	ughhh im stuck again. how do i get the other ones? (the one on the left in the picture) they are slightly different and they dont work like the other ones do. do i tap the outer thick ring down or do i get a socket to hit just the retainer ring down? (i cant get the retainer out of the ring) __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, catless h-pipe, bbk shorties, 40 series flows, bbk rear suspension, edelbrock front suspension, AUTOLITES!!! =), k&n, underdrives, 3.73's

September 6th, 2008, 07:22 PM	#8
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301	one of my valves slid into its little hole. its about an inch in but didnt fall in completely... how the hell do i get it out? i cant push it up through the spark plug hole. ive tried all i can think of, i even tried sucking on the hole to bring it back up but it wont budge. will putting a q-tip in with some rtv on the end stick to it? i think it has a fine layer of oil on it. help. i have no idea how to take heads off. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, catless h-pipe, bbk shorties, 40 series flows, bbk rear suspension, edelbrock front suspension, AUTOLITES!!! =), k&n, underdrives, 3.73's

September 6th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#9
fogged306 Hardcore Enthusiast 89 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Happy? Posts: 1,304	Someone may scold me for suggesting this. If the valve stem is still in the hole partially and is still aligned, you could probably try turning the crank pulley with a breaker bar slowly until the piston pushes it up until you can grab it and lift it all the way up. Probably not the brightest thing in the world to try, but I'm a bit of a hack sometimes and thats what I would try. Stop if you feel a bind in any way, obviously.

September 6th, 2008, 07:58 PM	#10
tehdwarvenn Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 301	yep i turned the crank with by the pulley and i got it pushed up. THANK GOD! i was about to cry dude haha i could stand having to take off my exhaust, plumbing and fuel delivery. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, catless h-pipe, bbk shorties, 40 series flows, bbk rear suspension, edelbrock front suspension, AUTOLITES!!! =), k&n, underdrives, 3.73's

September 7th, 2008, 10:28 AM	#11
trueblue01 Enthusiast 1989 Mustang LX 10.98@126.7 NA Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 698	Don't you have air applied to the cylinder as your removing the keeper and lock? __________________ Never fast enough.

September 12th, 2008, 05:25 AM	#12
MOTOIMPAIRED Regular 1990 LX Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orlando FL Posts: 153	If you put compressed air into the sparkplug hole of the cylinder that your working on, it will push the valve up closed and you wont have to worry about it falling..

September 12th, 2008, 08:20 AM	#13
5.8mustang Regular 1988 mustang lx never ran down a track Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Logansport IN / blairsville PA Posts: 92	it works ^^^^^^ best way

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