the killer 84

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 03:05 PM

recently bought an 84 mustang lx
we decided to do a full rebuild, because we had a broken shift fork in the trans and a bad head gasket.
we knew not what we were getting into.
but everything is going great its just a .... ton of work.....
heres our parts list i was just posting to see if there is anything i need to know before putting everything back together.
stock block
stock pistons
stock heads(ported like a mother)
slightly bigger cam
steel crank
crane cams lifters
edelbrock carb
performer intake
msd box
blaster 2 coil
3.73 posi
rebuilt non world t-5
fresh hoses & gaskets
i know im forgetting things but have a look!

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 03:05 PM

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HMUSN · September 7th, 2008, 03:06 PM

welcome to the forums. if your digging in that deep I would go ahead and lose the stock block and internals and upgrade if you have to cash.

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 03:10 PM

allready have all of the parts, look at the pics...
but it is going to be a daily driver....so we dont want to get carried away.
and i was told that the cast pistons we have would be able to hold up to a hundred shot, is this correct?

HMUSN · September 7th, 2008, 03:11 PM

For sure they can. no issues there.

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 03:13 PM

just to know, how much can they hold?
thanks for the quick replies!

HMUSN · September 7th, 2008, 03:14 PM

I've seen them run 150 shot then again I have seen motors blow from a 75 shot.
it's all in the combo, nitrous set up, and tune.

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 03:17 PM

anything we need to know before we dive in?

HMUSN · September 7th, 2008, 03:28 PM

a tune is key.

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 03:37 PM

how much good is a tune on a carbeurated car?
it is necessary, but is it crucial?

HMUSN · September 7th, 2008, 03:45 PM

hmm depends on what kind of tune you want. if an engine is built right you won't need one unless you add some sort of forced induction.
on a carbed car I am not too sure too be honest because of the lack of computer stuff in them.
maybe a stand alone would work.
you will have to wait for the carbed guys to answer that one for you.

86_Notch · September 7th, 2008, 04:18 PM

i like everything except the edelbrock carb. most people ( at least around here ) don't know how to tune them very well. it may be different around your way but i'd go with a 650 holley . as far as nitrous goes. you'll be fine with a 100 shot as long as you follow the directions and have an adequate fuel supply.

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 04:52 PM

thanks guys!

gotn20 · September 7th, 2008, 07:45 PM

Are these non forged pistons? I've been spraying a 200 on my 88 gt lately. I vary from 150 to 200 and did the same on my last motor and I went 180,000 miles spraying for like 40,000 of them before I fried a ring and sent it through the top of my piston lol. And I think my mistake might have been spraying a 200 on a 190 lph pump not a 255.

84killer · September 7th, 2008, 11:10 PM

correct, the original cast pistons, just cleaned up a little

Iownastang · September 8th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

hmm depends on what kind of tune you want. if an engine is built right you won't need one unless you add some sort of forced induction.
on a carbed car I am not too sure too be honest because of the lack of computer stuff in them.
maybe a stand alone would work.
you will have to wait for the carbed guys to answer that one for you.

A standalone on a carbed car?? somethings fishy about that.

84killer · September 23rd, 2008, 06:46 PM

what do you guys think is a good break in period?

threetime · September 23rd, 2008, 06:54 PM

I never gave a good break-in period and have never had any issues with any ford. Thats why I love my stangs so much I guess

Hunt_chevs · September 23rd, 2008, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by gotn20

Are these non forged pistons? I've been spraying a 200 on my 88 gt lately. I vary from 150 to 200 and did the same on my last motor and I went 180,000 miles spraying for like 40,000 of them before I fried a ring and sent it through the top of my piston lol. And I think my mistake might have been spraying a 200 on a 190 lph pump not a 255.

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95StangMX · September 23rd, 2008, 07:00 PM

if you ask woody he will tell you with machine work and motors today that you really dont need a "break in " period that the rings dont need to seat like they did back in the day....ask him for your application cause it may be different not sure....FordStrokers.com 331-347-393-408-418-427 stroker kits and ford parts. or I am sure somebody else could tell you....dont quote me on this one though it may have been someone else that said that or I may have misunderstood

September 7th, 2008, 03:05 PM	#1
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	the killer 84 recently bought an 84 mustang lx we decided to do a full rebuild, because we had a broken shift fork in the trans and a bad head gasket. we knew not what we were getting into. but everything is going great its just a .... ton of work..... heres our parts list i was just posting to see if there is anything i need to know before putting everything back together. stock block stock pistons stock heads(ported like a mother) slightly bigger cam steel crank crane cams lifters edelbrock carb performer intake msd box blaster 2 coil 3.73 posi rebuilt non world t-5 fresh hoses & gaskets i know im forgetting things but have a look!

September 7th, 2008, 03:06 PM	#3
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	welcome to the forums. if your digging in that deep I would go ahead and lose the stock block and internals and upgrade if you have to cash. __________________

September 7th, 2008, 03:11 PM	#5
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	For sure they can. no issues there. __________________

September 7th, 2008, 03:14 PM	#7
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	I've seen them run 150 shot then again I have seen motors blow from a 75 shot. it's all in the combo, nitrous set up, and tune. __________________

September 7th, 2008, 03:28 PM	#9
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	a tune is key. __________________

September 7th, 2008, 03:10 PM	#4
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	allready have all of the parts, look at the pics... but it is going to be a daily driver....so we dont want to get carried away. and i was told that the cast pistons we have would be able to hold up to a hundred shot, is this correct?

September 7th, 2008, 03:13 PM	#6
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	just to know, how much can they hold? thanks for the quick replies!

September 7th, 2008, 03:17 PM	#8
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	anything we need to know before we dive in?

September 7th, 2008, 03:37 PM	#10
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	how much good is a tune on a carbeurated car? it is necessary, but is it crucial?

September 7th, 2008, 03:45 PM	#11
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	hmm depends on what kind of tune you want. if an engine is built right you won't need one unless you add some sort of forced induction. on a carbed car I am not too sure too be honest because of the lack of computer stuff in them. maybe a stand alone would work. you will have to wait for the carbed guys to answer that one for you. __________________

September 7th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#12
86_Notch Hardcore Enthusiast 1986 lx notch 9.98 @ 135 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delaware Posts: 1,522 iTrader: 0 reviews	i like everything except the edelbrock carb. most people ( at least around here ) don't know how to tune them very well. it may be different around your way but i'd go with a 650 holley . as far as nitrous goes. you'll be fine with a 100 shot as long as you follow the directions and have an adequate fuel supply. __________________ " Spending money I don't have.... on things I don't need .... to impress people I don't know " .

September 7th, 2008, 04:52 PM	#13
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks guys!

September 7th, 2008, 07:45 PM	#14
gotn20 Atomized Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,370 iTrader: 0 reviews	Are these non forged pistons? I've been spraying a 200 on my 88 gt lately. I vary from 150 to 200 and did the same on my last motor and I went 180,000 miles spraying for like 40,000 of them before I fried a ring and sent it through the top of my piston lol. And I think my mistake might have been spraying a 200 on a 190 lph pump not a 255.

September 7th, 2008, 11:10 PM	#15
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	correct, the original cast pistons, just cleaned up a little

September 23rd, 2008, 06:46 PM	#17
84killer Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	what do you guys think is a good break in period?

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September 23rd, 2008, 06:54 PM	#18
threetime Regular 2009 GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	I never gave a good break-in period and have never had any issues with any ford. Thats why I love my stangs so much I guess

September 23rd, 2008, 07:00 PM	#20
95StangMX MM Fanatic 95 Mustang GT depends how many people are pushing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 3,243 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you ask woody he will tell you with machine work and motors today that you really dont need a "break in " period that the rings dont need to seat like they did back in the day....ask him for your application cause it may be different not sure....FordStrokers.com 331-347-393-408-418-427 stroker kits and ford parts. or I am sure somebody else could tell you....dont quote me on this one though it may have been someone else that said that or I may have misunderstood __________________ People should think about boarding up their glass house before starting a rock fight! Last edited by 95StangMX; September 23rd, 2008 at 07:04 PM.

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