subframe connector install???????

88stangGT · September 22nd, 2008, 11:19 AM

i have subframe connectors(weld on)..... i kno someone who can weld pretty good. is there anything that can be messed up while puttin them in? like if there off by a inch or something. or is it pretty much align the front and rear subframes and weld them up???? any advice is appreciated...

kevnsue · September 22nd, 2008, 11:52 AM

line them up and weld them in. Just make sure you clean the metal on the car real good so you get god penatration. Not really any way to mess it up.

1slo5.0 · September 22nd, 2008, 12:02 PM

Make sure the weight of the car is on the wheels when you install them as if the car was sitting on the ground. That is very important.

88stangGT · September 22nd, 2008, 01:03 PM

thnx alot guys!!!!

TheBrat · September 22nd, 2008, 06:36 PM

Ya for sure, I welded my car in the air, im waiting to see how much it pulls to one side.

Brett!

baine21225 · September 22nd, 2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by TheBrat

Ya for sure, I welded my car in the air, im waiting to see how much it pulls to one side.

Brett!

why don't you redo them, instead of taking a chance in messing up your ride

TheBrat · September 22nd, 2008, 06:44 PM

Well, how much do you think it flexed??
I had the arms out pretty far to even out the weight so it would try and act as if weight was on it...

Ill get the car going, and I find the car is pulling hard im going to cut them out, and do some more sturdy threw the floors ones..

Brett!

1slo5.0 · September 22nd, 2008, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by TheBrat

Well, how much do you think it flexed??
I had the arms out pretty far to even out the weight so it would try and act as if weight was on it...

Ill get the car going, and I find the car is pulling hard im going to cut them out, and do some more sturdy threw the floors ones..

Brett!

Its going to flex alot when you don't have the suspension loaded because its a unibody car. When you raised it up by the frame rails the front hung down and the rear hung down. Now since you welded the connectors on that way the car is stuck in that position. When you have the suspension loaded (jack stands under the axle and frong control arms or on wheel ramps) the car is sitting as it would be normally.

trueblue01 · September 22nd, 2008, 06:56 PM

Same thing holds true for putting in roll bar / roll cages.........

TheBrat · September 22nd, 2008, 07:07 PM

Darrell, you think it will really be that bad??
I know its like that for cages, but than question, I wanna get a 6pt done soon, should I wait to see if the car pulls before I get a cage welded into it??

Brett!

baine21225 · September 22nd, 2008, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by TheBrat

Darrell, you think it will really be that bad??
I know its like that for cages, but than question, I wanna get a 6pt done soon, should I wait to see if the car pulls before I get a cage welded into it??

Brett!

i would redo the subframe connectors before you think about a cage

TheBrat · September 22nd, 2008, 07:15 PM

Maybe ill chop them out in the spring and just do up some threw the floor ones..
Will I have seat clearnace issues if I do that??

Brett!

1slo5.0 · September 22nd, 2008, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by TheBrat

Darrell, you think it will really be that bad??
I know its like that for cages, but than question, I wanna get a 6pt done soon, should I wait to see if the car pulls before I get a cage welded into it??

Brett!

I'd redo it immediately if it was my car.

fairlane_68 · September 22nd, 2008, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by trueblue01

Same thing holds true for putting in roll bar / roll cages.........

Exactly. Race Fab 101 right there.

Your car is stuck in permasag. How well do your doors shut?

TheBrat · September 22nd, 2008, 09:38 PM

Everything on my car lines up really well..
Doors shut fine and everything, it dosent look like the car is even slightly twisted..

Brett!

fairlane_68 · September 22nd, 2008, 11:07 PM

Good. I had an '84 GT that was so bad, I had to pick the car up to get the sub connectors to fit. I welded them to the front, and the rear of the connector was 8" below from the rear frame. Once the connectors were in place, not only did the doors shut like they did when the car was new, but the T-Tops sealed much better. That car also had cracks in the floor.

The Novice · September 23rd, 2008, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by fairlane_68

Good. I had an '84 GT that was so bad, I had to pick the car up to get the sub connectors to fit. I welded them to the front, and the rear of the connector was 8" below from the rear frame. Once the connectors were in place, not only did the doors shut like they did when the car was new, but the T-Tops sealed much better. That car also had cracks in the floor.

Wow, i would of never thought that it could get so bad that the doors dont even shut damn. Did you ever drive it like that? If so im sure it was horrible yes? Well good to know, and nice to see that ya were able to shut those doors, probably felt like a new car.

Yeah why risk it, it shouldnt take that much time, just a day project if all goes well. And from what everyone is saying well worth it.

fairlane_68 · September 23rd, 2008, 05:06 PM

The car had been beaten to a pulp, and the previous owner was around 300 lbs. easy. Not a healthy diet for a Mustang, or any car.

TheBrat · September 23rd, 2008, 05:56 PM

So, with my doors and everything lining up correctly, does it sound like the car is relatively straight..??
I mean, they still close just as well as they did before I put them on..

Brett!

September 22nd, 2008, 11:19 AM	#1
88stangGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 149 iTrader: 0 reviews	subframe connector install??????? i have subframe connectors(weld on)..... i kno someone who can weld pretty good. is there anything that can be messed up while puttin them in? like if there off by a inch or something. or is it pretty much align the front and rear subframes and weld them up???? any advice is appreciated...

September 22nd, 2008, 12:02 PM	#3
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Make sure the weight of the car is on the wheels when you install them as if the car was sitting on the ground. That is very important. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

September 22nd, 2008, 06:36 PM	#5
TheBrat Regular 91 Mustang LX Fastback We shall see when she gets done.. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ya for sure, I welded my car in the air, im waiting to see how much it pulls to one side. Brett! __________________ 2003 MazdaSPEED Protege. Lava Orange with all the go fast parts 1991 LX. 2.3T in the works. 1977 Pinto Wagon. New motor combo in the works for 2012, C4, 4.10s, 150 pill. Et. unkown 1969 Impala. Needs a resto. Im Canadian, Eh!

September 22nd, 2008, 06:44 PM	#7
TheBrat Regular 91 Mustang LX Fastback We shall see when she gets done.. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well, how much do you think it flexed?? I had the arms out pretty far to even out the weight so it would try and act as if weight was on it... Ill get the car going, and I find the car is pulling hard im going to cut them out, and do some more sturdy threw the floors ones.. Brett! __________________ 2003 MazdaSPEED Protege. Lava Orange with all the go fast parts 1991 LX. 2.3T in the works. 1977 Pinto Wagon. New motor combo in the works for 2012, C4, 4.10s, 150 pill. Et. unkown 1969 Impala. Needs a resto. Im Canadian, Eh!

September 22nd, 2008, 06:56 PM	#9
trueblue01 Enthusiast 1989 Mustang LX 10.98@126.7 NA Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Same thing holds true for putting in roll bar / roll cages......... __________________ Never fast enough.

September 22nd, 2008, 11:52 AM	#2
kevnsue Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48 iTrader: 0 reviews	line them up and weld them in. Just make sure you clean the metal on the car real good so you get god penatration. Not really any way to mess it up.

September 22nd, 2008, 01:03 PM	#4
88stangGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 149 iTrader: 0 reviews	thnx alot guys!!!!

September 22nd, 2008, 07:07 PM	#10
TheBrat Regular 91 Mustang LX Fastback We shall see when she gets done.. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Darrell, you think it will really be that bad?? I know its like that for cages, but than question, I wanna get a 6pt done soon, should I wait to see if the car pulls before I get a cage welded into it?? Brett! __________________ 2003 MazdaSPEED Protege. Lava Orange with all the go fast parts 1991 LX. 2.3T in the works. 1977 Pinto Wagon. New motor combo in the works for 2012, C4, 4.10s, 150 pill. Et. unkown 1969 Impala. Needs a resto. Im Canadian, Eh!

September 22nd, 2008, 07:15 PM	#12
TheBrat Regular 91 Mustang LX Fastback We shall see when she gets done.. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Maybe ill chop them out in the spring and just do up some threw the floor ones.. Will I have seat clearnace issues if I do that?? Brett! __________________ 2003 MazdaSPEED Protege. Lava Orange with all the go fast parts 1991 LX. 2.3T in the works. 1977 Pinto Wagon. New motor combo in the works for 2012, C4, 4.10s, 150 pill. Et. unkown 1969 Impala. Needs a resto. Im Canadian, Eh!

September 22nd, 2008, 09:38 PM	#15
TheBrat Regular 91 Mustang LX Fastback We shall see when she gets done.. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	Everything on my car lines up really well.. Doors shut fine and everything, it dosent look like the car is even slightly twisted.. Brett! __________________ 2003 MazdaSPEED Protege. Lava Orange with all the go fast parts 1991 LX. 2.3T in the works. 1977 Pinto Wagon. New motor combo in the works for 2012, C4, 4.10s, 150 pill. Et. unkown 1969 Impala. Needs a resto. Im Canadian, Eh!

September 22nd, 2008, 11:07 PM	#16
fairlane_68 Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 404 Blog Entries: 5 iTrader: 0 reviews	Good. I had an '84 GT that was so bad, I had to pick the car up to get the sub connectors to fit. I welded them to the front, and the rear of the connector was 8" below from the rear frame. Once the connectors were in place, not only did the doors shut like they did when the car was new, but the T-Tops sealed much better. That car also had cracks in the floor.

September 23rd, 2008, 05:06 PM	#18
fairlane_68 Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 404 Blog Entries: 5 iTrader: 0 reviews	The car had been beaten to a pulp, and the previous owner was around 300 lbs. easy. Not a healthy diet for a Mustang, or any car.

September 23rd, 2008, 05:56 PM	#19
TheBrat Regular 91 Mustang LX Fastback We shall see when she gets done.. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 443 iTrader: 0 reviews	So, with my doors and everything lining up correctly, does it sound like the car is relatively straight..?? I mean, they still close just as well as they did before I put them on.. Brett! __________________ 2003 MazdaSPEED Protege. Lava Orange with all the go fast parts 1991 LX. 2.3T in the works. 1977 Pinto Wagon. New motor combo in the works for 2012, C4, 4.10s, 150 pill. Et. unkown 1969 Impala. Needs a resto. Im Canadian, Eh!

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