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Would i crack my block if i did this?


Hey guys i have been talking to a guy with a V1 S-trim S/C And it comes with everything except the BTU and fuel lines. ( the blades look nearly new) But it has an Anderson power pipe, 8lbs pulley,belts, 3.33 pulley and everything else and the unit was rebuilt 6 years ago but never run after. He wanted $1500 ive talked him down to $1,100. ( should i get it rebuilt? Though maybe i will at least have the seals replaced since its been sitting so long?)

But my question is would i have to worry about creating to much HP or TQ for my Block to crack or my Tranny to burn out?? ( Tremec 3550- hold 375 TQ rating ).

Here are my parts list now (from what i can remember at the moment) And if anyone can tell me if i should be safe or not and not worry about damage that would be great.

306 bored (still stock block)
Trick flow Track heat Upp/low intake.
Roush 200cc heads.
70mm TB
Intake fuel pump upgrade (cant think) 190LPH or 255LPH.
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Full MSD ignition (with the 6AL will i neet the BTM still, or is it a good idea?)
EQ headers, H-pipe, Mac cat back.
24lbs injectors. and Fuel rails
Adjustable fuel regulators
Underdrive pullies w/ Smog pump delete

Thats all i can think of that is engine related at the moment, but i just was wondering if you guy think i would be safe to run this S-trim with this combo or not. B/c i dont want to crack the block or screw up the tranny. Also do you have a rough number on HP and TQ? I would rather be further away from 500 and alot closer to 400, b/c my car wont be wooping anyone if i crack the block.

But let me know what ya think about if i would be ok, if ya got a HP and TQ range guess, if ya think its a good deal or bad deal, anything would be helpful, i appeciate any and all posts, hopefully ya can help me out. Thanks guys! - The Novice.
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the one thing you need to know is what your compression ratio is, with a 8 pound pulley you will want to be around 8:1

as far as the block goes, these blocks are known to go at 500hp, unless your ryans88gt because he seems to have more luck then most.

depending on your compression ratio, i would say in the 450hp range with 8 psi.

some one will correct me if im wrong.
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450HP, and im guessing at least 420 TQ...Dang, well that would destroy my tranny im sure...

Im not sure about the 306 and its ratio b/c the guy before me put it together so i have no idea, and no idea how to find out. But he was running a S/C before, although he didnt tell my that is my guess, and the computer is chipped. But thats about all i know unfortanently.

I would be affaid i would crack my block, and destroy my tranny. Does that make sence or am i being naive? What do you guys think?

I though about maybe buying it and selling, i could prob make a little money, but i would feel like a D-bag.

I keep on going back and forth between wanting a S/C and alternatives. But i guess i just might have to rule S/C out for good. The cam is weak im thinking of a Stage 2 cam by Trickflow. But i dunno if i have the Valve clearence.

I dont know what other mods i can do, but i want some more HP Thanks for the help guys, much appeciated. - The Novice
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i would just buy it and run it as it is

i have a friend with a 347 stroker and a 150 shot of nitrous that he took down the track a cupple times and nothin happend to eather the engine or the tranny
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the one thing you need to know is what your compression ratio is, with a 8 pound pulley you will want to be around 8:1

as far as the block goes, these blocks are known to go at 500hp, unless your ryans88gt because he seems to have more luck then most.

depending on your compression ratio, i would say in the 450hp range with 8 psi.

some one will correct me if im wrong.
You can run 8lbs of boost on 9.1 with no problems even more if you'd like.
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get the blower if you are gonna use it... Im assuming this is a street car... it's not like your gonna crank the car up and split the block...
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get the blower if you are gonna use it... Im assuming this is a street car... it's not like your gonna crank the car up and split the block...
Mostly street, with hopefully some track time on it too.

So you are saying i should have to worry about cracking the block? But what about my tranny though? Wont that S/C's Torque just eat it up?

And jw what happens if i continue to run the 24lbs injectors?
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your duty cycle hits 100% and your motor leans out and blows up.
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Originally Posted by The Novice View Post
Hey guys i have been talking to a guy with a V1 S-trim S/C And it comes with everything except the BTU and fuel lines. ( the blades look nearly new) But it has an Anderson power pipe, 8lbs pulley,belts, 3.33 pulley and everything else and the unit was rebuilt 6 years ago but never run after. He wanted $1500 ive talked him down to $1,100. ( should i get it rebuilt? Though maybe i will at least have the seals replaced since its been sitting so long?)

But my question is would i have to worry about creating to much HP or TQ for my Block to crack or my Tranny to burn out?? ( Tremec 3550- hold 375 TQ rating ).

Here are my parts list now (from what i can remember at the moment) And if anyone can tell me if i should be safe or not and not worry about damage that would be great.

306 bored (still stock block)
Trick flow Track heat Upp/low intake.
Roush 200cc heads.
70mm TB
Intake fuel pump upgrade (cant think) 190LPH or 255LPH.
E-303 cam
1.7RR
Full MSD ignition (with the 6AL will i neet the BTM still, or is it a good idea?)
EQ headers, H-pipe, Mac cat back.
24lbs injectors. and Fuel rails
Adjustable fuel regulators
Underdrive pullies w/ Smog pump delete

Thats all i can think of that is engine related at the moment, but i just was wondering if you guy think i would be safe to run this S-trim with this combo or not. B/c i dont want to crack the block or screw up the tranny. Also do you have a rough number on HP and TQ? I would rather be further away from 500 and alot closer to 400, b/c my car wont be wooping anyone if i crack the block.

But let me know what ya think about if i would be ok, if ya got a HP and TQ range guess, if ya think its a good deal or bad deal, anything would be helpful, i appeciate any and all posts, hopefully ya can help me out. Thanks guys! - The Novice.
No you won't crack your block. I'm running a wilder combo than that with 15 pounds of boost and a stock block.

I also have a nice shiny S-trim and polished aftercooler for sale
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Originally Posted by 78mach1 View Post
the one thing you need to know is what your compression ratio is, with a 8 pound pulley you will want to be around 8:1

as far as the block goes, these blocks are known to go at 500hp, unless your ryans88gt because he seems to have more luck then most.

depending on your compression ratio, i would say in the 450hp range with 8 psi.

some one will correct me if im wrong.
I run 15psi with just over 9:1 compression.......
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Thanks Darrell, although what about my tranny? I dont know if these S/C make a lot of TQ like the roots style do or not.

You running a T-5 Still?

And i have 24lbs injectors will i have to upgrade or can i wait a little bit? And im guessing i would need a good tune for this to work best? Thanks Darrell! - The Novice.
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Thanks Darrell, although what about my tranny? I dont know if these S/C make a lot of TQ like the roots style do or not.

You running a T-5 Still?

And i have 24lbs injectors will i have to upgrade or can i wait a little bit? And im guessing i would need a good tune for this to work best? Thanks Darrell! - The Novice.
I gave up on T5s along time ago. I had one good T5. The other 500 T5s I had were junk. I have a TKO in my street beater.

I run 42lb injectors in my car with no FMU.
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your going to be fine on 9:1 compression ratio i have seen larger boost numbers run very well with no problems..Your golden bro
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you'll have no problems with a proper tune, with either the trans or the block. People have been doing this for decades.
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we run 11 pounds on the 96 cobra.. 9.85:1 compression and it has over 100k on it.
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the only way to crack a block is by spraying methanol injection
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the only way to crack a block is by spraying methanol injection
lmao.... u beat me to it
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^I was going to post the same thing as soon as I saw the title... As for the OP, your fine. Retard the timing, watch you plugs & A/F and drive the shit out of her...
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I am putting out 502 RWHP and my block is stock....still works and runs fine. One question though why does the meth injection crack it.
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^I was going to post the same thing as soon as I saw the title... As for the OP, your fine. Retard the timing, watch you plugs & A/F and drive the shit out of her...
So you guys think i will be ok huh? And even if i drive her hard i shouldnt have issues with a proper tune? If so i will really have to think about this then, i was kinda scared i could hurt the car a lot.

But what else would ya recommend i get in support of the S/C system? Do i need the BTM? Bigger Injectors and a Chip or anything else? Thanks a lot guys for the help!!
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